Due to Bush's rising support on security, Clark must be the V.P. ....

[deminflorida]

if we're going to win this thing in November...the Polls are clear...

The American People are speaking, they want a ticket they can trust with the security of the Nation.

Kerry must pick Clark, or plan on losing in November. Anyone with no National Security or Forgein Policy experience and the GOP will ride this issue right back into the White House.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4782400/

[Racenut20]

1. need him visable on the campaign trail now.

[balanced]

18. Actually, we need him yesterday.

[bearfartinthewoods]

29. he does that roles very well but he'll never be VP

he was already rejected in the primaries and brings no significant EC vote.

[dogman]

38. Rejected?

Everybody but Kerry was rejected. Clark did rather well for a novice with only 4 months of campaigning. His fundraising was the best in the last quarter of '03. Kerry leads in polls on the economy but lags on national security. Clark would offer the best help in that area.

[w13rd0]

2. If Kerry himself can't convince them...

...what makes you think Clark can. There's maybe 10% at most that are "shiftable", and the factors that will make them shift change daily. Most aren't even paying attention, and when they do, they parrot what the media tells them. The "American people" aren't speaking, the media is whoring, and will continue to whore.

[JNelson6563]

3. I gotta admire your determination

while I chuckle and shake my head.

Julie

[ibegurpard]

20. Indeed

:eyes:

[FreakinDJ]

4. Clark would be a good choice

Al tho in reality any one could provide more intelligent use of our military. At least Clark has the backing of his former experience to qualify him

[atre]

5. Making national security the key issue is a surefire recipe for disaster

For some reason, people in America tend to think that Bush makes them safer. If Kerry makes a VP decision because he wants to focus more on those issues, the ticket will suffer.

Clark may make a good VP choice, but not if he is used this way.

[NJmaverick]

6. Clark would allow that issue to be taken off the table

Although waiting a few months to see how things play out is more important. If Iraq, security and the like are still the main issue then Clark is the man. If the nations incredibly short attention span turns towards domestic issues, then someone like Edwards may be a better choice.

[deminflorida]

7. It's the American People making it an issue.......

I wouldn't chuckle or laugh concerning this choice, Clark is holding the number two spot behind Edwards on the MSNBC VeepStakes....

These recent polls may push Clark to the top of the pack this week.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4565073/

It is an issue, Polls show Americans trust Democrats more with the Economy....

The National Security and Iraq Mess must be addressed in a different manner than the GOP is currently addressing them. Clark I believe could help Kerry frame those issues in the correct manner.

Let me put it to you this way....this shit right here ain't gonna get it buddy:

MR. RUSSERT: On Thursday, President Bush broke with the tradition and policy of six predecessors when he said that Israel can keep part of the land seized in the 1967 Middle East War and asserted the Palestinian refugees cannot go back to their particular homes. Do you support President Bush?

SEN. KERRY: Yes.

MR. RUSSERT: Completely?

SEN. KERRY: Yes.

P.S. -

go ahead and Put Edwards on the Ticket, another ass-hole that voted for the Iraq war and you'll set the Democratic Party up for a potential Land-Slide in November by the GOP.

If there's no credible choice or alternative to Bush to be presented by the party, independent voters aren't going to change horse's in mid-stream.

I'd settle for Dean on the ticket if it can't be Clark because you know what....concerning Iraq he was correct from the beginning.

[Ridley Park 704]

8. Kerry n Edwards are too similar, Clark would fill the bill

I like Edwards a lot, but I don't think he can help Kerry win North Carolina, but Arkansas (Clark) is a slam dunk with him in play, IMO.

Still, I get the sinking feeling that no matter who Kerry picks, the guy he didn't pick will look like the better choice later. Just like when Gore chose Lieberman instead of Bob Graham, which cost him the White House.

I did hear reports yesterday that Edwards would help Kerry win midwestern states. I just hope the right guy is picked.

[balanced]

15. 100% correct.

"independent voters aren't going to change horse's in mid-stream." Independent voters must be shown a good reason to change. The "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude in America is pretty solid. Democrats must convince voters that there is a need to change the commander-in-chief. At the very least, Democrats must convince voters that Kerry is at least as good as Bush in protecting the country.

[Nashyra]

9. Doesn't have to be the "key" issue

but Clark as the veep could make security a "draw" when it comes to who would do the best job. To moderates and swing voters Clark offers a better alternative to the *. The Dems don't have to win the "security issue" they just have to make it uncomfortable for the Repukes to make it their issue. They can n ot effectively run against Clark on security so therefore it devestates their "war candidate" strategy.

[balanced]

21. The people are focused on the "protect America" issue, and so

the statement that "If Kerry makes a VP decision because he wants to focus more on those issues, the ticket will suffer" is not correct. I cannot see a scenario where the "protect America" issue will be out of the public eye.

[Padraig18]

10. The polls are anything but clear, and furthermore....

...it's 28 weeks before the damned election. Look, I like Clark, but you Clarkies have got to quit seizing on every 'My toaster waffles burned today, so we must select Clark as VP, etc.'' blip that appears on the screen. Kerry will pick Clark if, and only if he brings more EVs to the table than someone else--- period--- and there is no clear indication that he does that.

Give it a rest, ffs! :eyes:

[balanced]

17. Bush and his ads are now in the process of defining Kerry

as regards the war on terrorism issue. If the ads work, Clark may not be able to turn around an ingrained definition. Clark must begin now to help vitiate these ads. Remember, we are up against an incumbent with tons of money. Even though Bush is not the sharpest guy around, people believe in his ability to protect the country. We must get off of our asses and get going, get aggressive, and get Clark. These are the four g's.

[Padraig18]

22. Sorry, I don't agree.

Fact 1: It's 28 weeks before theGE.

Fact 2: NS may or may not be the key issue in November.

fact 3: Other than his supporter's opinions, there is no objective proof whatsoever that Gen. Clark neutralizes this issue for Kerry and our party-- NONE.

[tokenlib]

11. Clark would be an asset on economic issues as well.....

Clark has the economic smarts that we need in a VP. Not only on foreign policy and defense--but if the economy is the major issue--and in the end it usually is--Clark kicks ass!!

[Padraig18]

12. Umm, he didn't shine economically in the primaries, really.

I mean, look at the results of the primaries. I like Clark--- a lot, even--- but I don't think he's got the 'mojo' the ticket needs, frankly. :shrug:

[balanced]

13. 100% correct

[ShaneGR]

14. Owing to Bush's rising popularity in rural areas, we must have Edwards

So says I.

[balanced]

16. Isn't Clark one of them good old southern boys from the sticks?

[democratreformed]

19. no

[ShaneGR]

24. yup

And there lies the problem. Clark's a good man, but he's better served working in DOD or State.

[Nicholas_J]

23. Likely to be Edwards

I just rad that in a recent presidential test vote in North Carolina, Edwards beat Bush in that statem which is a large turnaround from earl;er. It seems more that Edwards may be able to deleiver on or two southern states and that is more critical than Gepahrdt being able to deldiver the midwest, where Kerry seems to be holding his own very well.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

25. Actually, we needed Clark to be our nominee!

[democratreformed]

26. Now, this is one I can definitely, completely, 100 percent agree with!

Ah, the longing......

[Darkamber]

27. If Kerry feels that is the issue he needs boosted on then you are right

The choice will remain with Kerry, but I wonder how much the advertising is effecting people views of Kerry.

I saw an Bush ad last night that was against Kerry that made me cringe.

It had his votes about the war and then about the additional funds needed, which Kerry voted against, but his reason for the vote against was because of no clear exit plan. But the ad inserted a bit of Kerry on the stump saying, "I voted for that bill before I voted against it."

I just cringed. It added to the 'waffle' view that the GOP is painting Kerry as.

Plus all the 'tax increase' ads that have been coming out hard and think about Kerry could be hurting him as well.

I think Kerry needs to define himself better, so he won't so open to attacks on those areas.

[Democat]

28. The media is telling people what to think

As long as the right wing controls the media, it might not matter who he picks for VP. Kerry will have to be the one to win or lose this.

[Cuban_Liberal]

30. It won't be Clark.

He has very limited electoral appeal among Democrats, as his primary showings made crystl clear. Kerry will choose someone who has proven appeal to Democrats, Independents and moderate Republicans.

[democratreformed]

32. What's "crystl"?????

[Cuban_Liberal]

34. A typo, pretty obviously.

Sniping at a typo is an incredibly petty, not to mention incredibly juvenile comment. :eyes:

[democratreformed]

35. Sorry, I just couldn't resist

LOL weeeeeeeeee!!!!!

[Cuban_Liberal]

36. *smack*

Good thing today was a good day at work, or I coulda been a REAL prick about it! :P

[democratreformed]

42. *Ouch*

My day was pretty slow and boring at work.
Sometimes a good old smack in the face does wonders.

[bluedog]

31. I agree

[MoonRiver]

33. My husband made the same comment today.

It's got to be Kerry/Clark! :kick:

[David Zephyr]

37. Wes Clark is Kerry's Best Pick Considering American Security Paranoia

In fact, it is probably the only pick.

[salonghorn70]

39. Paranoia?

When 3000 of our citizens get killed in a terror attack, concern about security is not paranoia.

[David Zephyr]

43. 2,700 Out Of Nearly 300 Million. One Attack in 230 Years.

Paranoia.

Patriot Act...Pure Paranoia.

[Piperay]

40. I agree

100%, Clark is the best pick! :thumbsup:

[w4rma]

41. He can campaign for Kerry as the future Sec. of State and have the same

effect on the campaign.

Imho.