Nader is going to hurt Kerry.

[Libertarialoon]

Kerry's support of continued U.S. presence in Iraq will enable Nader to cast himself as the anti-war candidate. too bad Howard Dean isn't in the race anymore. Nader wouldn't be able to get away with this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/20/politics/campaign/20NADE.html?ex=1083432366&ei=1&en=4c50fcb528147e96

[NewYorkerfromMass]

1. Only if the loser Nader gets on a ballot

fuck him.

[Claire Beth]

25. you can take it to the bank....

there are gopers who will guarantee his name on the ballot because they KNOW he will hurt Kerry.

[bluestateguy]

2. Kerry will end the war

I don't care what he is saying now. He has to say certain things to appease the corporate media and the wishy-washy voters in places like Macomb County Michigan. Under Kerry, other countries will be happy to help us get out of this mess. They will contribute troops. Kerry will invite the UN in and they will accept. This isn't time to piddle around with candidates who can't win and will only put the Baby Bush back in the White House for another four years. Any anti-war voter who votes for Nader gets what they deserve, including a draft!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

24. I agree with your anaylisis.

[elperromagico]

3. Well then, Kerry needs to hurt Nader

by taking away Nader's issues and making them his own.

That's what elections are about. I can't say I'm happy about Nader in the race, but if Kerry wants to win, he will have to bring Nader voters over to his side. He can't just say, "Those are my voters, and you can't have them." He has to win them the same way he would have to win voters from Bush.

We've got to get past this notion that votes belong to us. They belong to us only if we win them. And right now, Nader is winning votes Kerry needs. If he wants them, he'll have to hurt Nader. Simple as that.

[still_one]

4. Who cares

This will be my last election if Bush wins

I have the upmost confidence in the stupidity of the American people, and that the Democrats will self-destruct

[Libertarialoon]

6. If Bush wins, this may be the last election for anyone. (nt/)

[charlie105]

5. The debates is where Nader might turn to be a

liability for Kerry. The Bush camp is going to insist that Nader be part of any televised debate that Bush participates in. He's then going to stand back and watch Nader take down Kerry. That is not good.

:mad:

[lancdem]

7. He might go after Bush as well

[Direckshun]

13. charlie105

charlie105,

You are absolutely correct. :mad:

[Changenow]

8. Nader wants a Bush victory.

Maybe he wants things to get really horrible.

I hate him as much as Bush, maybe more because of the betrayal.

[Solidarity]

17. Nonsense

That's nonsense

[Changenow]

27. Never ever believe what someone says when their actions belie their

words.

Do you believe Bush when he says he wants a balanced budget? The way you know that claim is horse shit is because Chimp is doing everything in his power to bankrupt the country, his words are meaningless.

Ralph can say whatever he wants, but he is actively working to defeat Kerry, which means a Bush victory. Believe what a person does and you will find out what they want.

[CityDem]

9. Nader will have an impact on 2004

He will have an impact, but not as big an impact as in 2000. Nader has a place in this election and if Kerry does not stop straddling the fence on important issues, I will vote for Nader. Kerry needs to understand why he is not appealing to many on the left and start addressing this problem. Nader provides an option for those who don't want to vote for Bush lite.

[Libertarialoon]

15. The problem is that Kerry is not as good a candidate as Gore was

As bad a campaign as Gore ran, Kerry looks to me to be an even weaker candidate. Look at all the bad news hitting Bush and Kerry still can't gain any ground. At least with Gore, most voters knew where he stood on a majority of issues and he had a certifiable track record to back him up. Kerry's track record is virtually non-existant and he hasn't given a reason for people to vote for him other than he's not Bush.

[Direckshun]

10. ...

It doesn't matter if Nader was pro-war or anti-war. What we need is candidate who can handle where we are, not a candidate who cares how we got here.

Nader will pull troops out of Iraq immediately, which will leave the nation in a bigger disaster than it was when we entered.

Nader is skewering what's important. He's misfiring and has his weaponry focused on the wrong points. I care very little for what Nader thinks about Kerry, and I hope more will eventually feel the same way.

[Demobrat]

11. Kerry's strategy is to blow off the left

in an attempt to win disaffected Repub voters. Obviously, he believes that there are more centrist Repubs who would rather vote for a Dem than for Bush than there are lefties who won't be bullied, threatened or shamed into voting for Bush Lite. Only time will tell if he is correct.

[Direckshun]

12. Demobrat

Demobrat,

How on earth is Kerry "blowing off" the left? Nearly every single stance he has is left-based. Pro-abortion. Anti-death penalty. Lower military spending.

Kerry is trying to win over centrist Repubs by convincing them that he makes more sense than Bush. He doesn't need to pander to the right to do that.

[CTLawGuy]

21. if hes anti DP

he doesnt talk about it. He sure denies very loudly that he's a liberal. Im also wary of his plan to cut corporate taxes and how hes going to balance the budget and keep most of bush's tax cuts.

[Gothmog]

14. The Greens could still get Nader on the ballot

Nader is trying to get on the ballot with a party behind him. If this fails, he could still get on the ballots in most states by getting the Greenie nomination.

Nader is on track to be a factor in November and may yet cost Kerry the election.

[tinanator]

16. lol

never let the facts get in the way!

[HFishbine]

18. There's a way for Kerry to triumph on this

Nominate an anti-war VP.

[JVS]

19. I doubt he'll do that

[HFishbine]

20. Me too

Unfortunately.

[mzmolly]

22. Nader is going to hurt *the world*

Wooo Hooo! Go Nader!!! :eyes:

[SlackJaw]

23. Nader will not be a factor...

Unless he helps Kerry by registering people who are angry with Bush. His presence will do more to help than hurt, that is a guarantee. Just like last time!

the artist formerly known as Penny Foolish

[Angry Black Man]

26. exactly!!

And if you consider yourself to be "anti-war", then Nader is your man.

Think about this.. if a ground-swell of support began to take shape for Nader, I'm sure the electorate would very quickly shift gears in Nader's favor. Kerry's support has always been lukewarm at best. People are sick and tired of holding their nose when the go into the voting booth. A Nader resurgence is not out of the realm of possiblity... but it will take a group of concerned, pro-peace humans such as you find in this forum to start this support!

For some reason people think that it just can't happen, and that Kerry is their only hope to de-throne King George. BUT IT CAN HAPPEN!!