CNN is waging an all out WAR on John Kerry

[Nimble_Idea]

While the U.S lost an ally, Spain, in the War in Iraq, The Republican War against John Kerry has taken a whole new offensive. While CNN has already been a Media whore for the Corporate Republicans, the new offensive is dead set on making people believe that John Kerry is all but a Howard Dean scream in the wind, and it's basically over and John should go home.

Their Polls show Kerry down and their Shows down the line on primetime continue to push the idea of Nader as an alternative of Kerry and THEN come back and try to paint John Kerry as weak. It's a double headed axe and they are swinging it and swinging it hard.

Operation CNN Offensive is on the way.

[DaveSZ]

1. Let's get that boycott of CNN going

Let's get down to business here.

;)

[AgadorSparticus]

49. I've BEEN boycotting CNN for the past 9 months.

They're just as bad as faux. The conservatives ruthlessly went after CNN, got rid of Ted, and proceeded to capitalize on the CNN journalistic name. Well, obviously the days of camelot are over. I've washed my hands of that channel. It doesn't have credibility anymore. ugh. besides, who can stand listening to that wench rudi bachtiar (sp?)? Can't stomach that shit. :puke:

[apnu]

50. I've been boycotting CNN for 3 years... n/t

[GainesT1958]

2. Well, if he's in a war...

He needs a good GENERAL to help him fight his way out of it!

One more time; for victory in November, I've got three words for John Kerry:

PICK...WES...CLARK!!! :D

:kick:

B-)

[w13rd0]

5. I hope Clark supporters don't get their hopes up...

...because it's becoming increasingly doubtful that he'll pick someone who was also a candidate. He'll likely select some DLC approved whitebread type. And lord knows it'll energize me...

[lancdem]

3. Not surprised

[Direckshun]

4. Nimble_Idea

Nimble_Idea,

If you look at the numbers, it's Fox News that has been a media whore for Republicans. CNN is usually very centrist and equally divided, at least far more than Fox News and National Public Radio (which is a media whore for the left).

CNN polls show Kerry down because he is down. Not far down, and losing a few inches the past couple days, so he's very much still in the game. And yes, Nader is an alternative to Kerry - they have far more in common than Bush and Nader do.

Stop being paranoid just because you're not hearing what you want to hear. :)

[Nimble_Idea]

6. lol, Im not being paranoid

I don't praise CNN or any so called MAINSTREAM Cable Media,
I will always attack them, because they are always going to be REPUG Megaphones.

Maybe Kerry is down, but it doesn't excuse Bill Snooker and Judy Dandruff from attaking Kerry day in and day out.

Make no damn mistake, CORPORATE MEDIA and CORPORATE AMERICA DON't WANT SOME LIBERAL FROM MASS ANYWHERE NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE.


Just remember one thing lil grasshopper,

Whether the MEDIA is FREE OR NOT, it still CONTROLS what the people SEE, HEAR and THINK.

Bank on it.

[jay-3d]

7. i'm paranoid just thinking of bush with 4 more years

[bobbieinok]

10. NPR left????? - where have you been the last 3 years??????

CNN centrist??????????

[Direckshun]

15. bobbieniok

bobbieniok,

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2004/01/primarysources.htm

Scroll down to "Al Franken Was Right."

NPR = Typically left.
Fox = Typically right.
CNN = Typically more even.

[tinanator]

34. NOT EVEN

CNN is FAR MORE scurrilous than Fox and MSNBC. Id rather get the straight lie from those liars than crooked lies from the most underhanded backstabbing bastards running CNN. If Ted Turner could return there might be some salvation, but those days are LONG gone.
Of course, you think NPR is left, so there may be no point in trying to have a discussion.

[w4rma]

45. I disagree, Direckshun

NPR = center
CNN = right
FOX = fascist-right

Look at their owners for confirmation.

[blm]

51. You have that EXACTLY right.

.

[aintitfunny]

14. I don't know what you are watching

but I would have to affirm that CNN demonstrates a strong Bush Bias. Once upon a time they were balanced, but it appears to not be the case anymore. Everyone knows what Fox is, they even seem kinda proud of it. I disagree about NPR - there is no whore is NPR.
When the facts are told truthfully and completely, which is NPR's habit, it appears to be biased against the Bush administration. This is because most everything the Bushies do is bad, wrong, mis-directed, and usually executed using the best examples of poor judgment and without a whit of diplomatic skill. They are bad and it ain't getting any better. Facts are facts. That is not paranoia.

[DEMVET-USMC]

22. Bushies:" WITHOUT A WHIT OF DIPLOMATIC SKILL"

Well stated and he proves all the time. ...Oscar

[LibertyorDeath]

20. " CNN is usually very centrist"

Only if you tilt so far to the Right you're in danger of falling over.

What version of CNN are you watching??????

cause the one I see is full to the top with unadulterated bush loving

Karl Rove ass licking pseudo journalists of the worst kind.

"CNN is usually very centrist" LOL

[el_gato]

23. You obviously don't understand the nature of the media NI

CNN is a CIA asset and if you don't believe me go do your research.
Perhaps you could start with thier behaviour during the first Gulf War.

As far as NPR they are not left in any way other than in your mind.

[MoonRiver]

27. What have we here,

a CNN apologist? And, an avid Kerry basher to boot! My, oh my, oh my. :eyes:

[barbaraann]

8. Kerry needs a totally new approach to campaigning.

The traditional methods will NOT work.

[hackwriter]

9. Kerry is assuming that this election will be fair

Once again, we have a "high-road" Democrat as our nominee....a nice guy, a gentleman, who "refuses to sink to that level."

Well guess what, Johnny, boy....Americans RESPOND to politics at that level, and the polls show it.

You'd better get a pair of stones, and quickly. And realize that the media are NOT going to be your friend. The mainstream media are an extension of BushCo.

If this campaign doesn't wake up soon, I'll believe my husband is right and the Democrats only exist to make you THINK you have a choice, when you really don't.

[tinanator]

35. your husband is right

and nobody should be naive enough to believe that the modern day corporate media will do any favors for anyone who threatens their hegemony. Ask Howard Dean. Kerry and his know this, if theyre smart and serious about winning, they wont care or waste effort on it. There are other paths towards victory. Im not certain they are serious about winning, myself.

[stopbush]

11. A little perspective...

1. Bush has spent $100MM. What has it got him? A slight bump in the polls that is sure to dissipate within weeks if not days as more and more scandals emerge and more and more Yanks die in Iraq and Afghanistan.

2. Lots of bombshells sitting out there waiting to ignite: Plame, War for Saudi Election engineering, etc.

3. More "bad news for bush" books on the way

4. Most people still get their news from the nightly networks, and they have been hammering bush. Don't over-estimate the influence of the cable guys.

5. Most Americans STILL aren't paying attention to the election, yet bush has spent more than half of his vaunted war chest

6. Election is still 8 months off

7. Once the worm truly turns, the cable networks will reverse course and start bashing bush in earnest. Our chances here are 50/50.

[lancdem]

13. Good post

:thumbsup:

[Old and In the Way]

16. Reality check.

* Democrats won by 500,000 votes last time. How many of those will vote for Bush this time? None.

* How many Democrats that didn't bother to vote last time will be motivated this time? Lots.

* How many Indies will break with the Democrats vs. Republicans? At least 60%.

* How many Republicans will vote for the idiot again? A little less than last time.

* How many Republicans want bother to vote. More than a few.

[zbdent]

28. I also wonder how many crossover votes Bush got in 2000

that were Dems/Left-leaners who thought that Gore was going to be the same as Clinton, and didn't want that? Or thought that W wasn't really going to be so bad, and they didn't want Impeachment # 3?

My personal opinion is that, with Rush and company constantly blasting out every day against Dems and Liberals, every Republican voter was out there voting so that "we wouldn't have to bear another four years of Clinton" according to their mindframe.

I doubt that there was a Repuke voter out there who skipped out (despite what those west Floridian Repuke complainers said about the "exit polls proclaiming XXX the winner") from voting. Do you really believe that the true-believers of the Repukes would skip out?

[Old and In the Way]

32. No, the true believers will be there....all 35% of them.

Everyone else will vote for change.

[tinanator]

41. but what will the vote counters reveal?

Landslide for Bushcorp!

[Dinger]

43. 60,000 + In Florida

Only they weren't "crossover votes," they were stolen votes.

[Nimble_Idea]

18. it's a sad day indeed if the Republican Media cabal

has you believing that they will somehow change thier strips just because Kerry is elected. From day one that John takes office the campaign for their next Republican Master will be on the way.

These cable guys are not to be underestimated, they are on 24/7 spewing their garbage.

While Shrub has spent 100 million , WAKE UP PEOPLE, SHRUB KNEW he had to pay that much to keep competitive !!!

HE KNOWS he has to spend 100 million NOW to Keep people off the LIES and the day of Judgement for them all. he may have spent 100 million, but HE HAS ALOT MORE FROM WHENCE THAT CAME

LOL

MAY the AIR WAVES RAIN RED WITH THE BLOOD MONEY of the MEIDA WHORES

WAR = Ratings, Shrub 2004.

[AlinPA]

12. It had to start sometime. MSRNC is already full strength at it.

NBC is going to go full bore here soon.

[mzmolly]

17. Well when the media assassinated Dean lots of people said the media

didn't have that kind of power. I wonder if they'll feel the same when Kerry is the *victim*?

[Nimble_Idea]

21. who exactly said the Media didn't hurt dean???

surely, I, never said it, and Dean didn't get beat by the Media.
It may have hurt him AFTER IOWA.

He was running against Kerry and everyone else , and to think the Media didn't favor DEAN before IOWA is down right IGNORANT.

Dean was on EVERY FRIGGAN magazine, in every news reel.

THE DEAN MACHINE THIS, the DEAN MACHINE THAT.

While I was impressed with it, It was as if, the rest of the PACK who was running should just have PACKED up and GO HOME. It was ABSURD to sit there and Watch TUCKER and Judy and all those FOGEYS tell me who was going to be our nominee. They HELPED DEAN in the start, they wanted him to be the nomineee, they gave him all the press, you can Argue that is was BAD PRESS, but THAT BAD PRESS came AFTER IOWA and AFTER the scream


I weep for you not about that.

The media has power, but like DEAN said, the PEOPLE HAVE THE REAL power. The media was shown that in IOWA, they will be shown that again in Nov. 2004.


you can bank on that.

[mzmolly]

39. The media paid attention to Dean for the same reason voters did.

"The media has power, but like DEAN said, the PEOPLE HAVE THE REAL power. The media was shown that in IOWA, they will be shown that again in Nov. 2004."

Oh phew! Then Kerry's got nothing to worry about does he ?!

BTW, The media assasinated Dean, BEFORE IOWA and after IOWA. Speaking of Crossfire, Begala and Carville were highly critical of Dean (our then front-runner)while they propped up Kerry. To deny the media played a role in Deans fate, is IGNORANT.

[sandnsea]

26. We said "get used to it"

Because that's what the media does and they'd do it to any frontrunner. And we all knew they'd do it to whoever the Democratic primary winner was. We said to quit whining and blaming the other candidates for 'dirty tricks" and start fighting. That's what we said. At least that's what I said. And whining about the dirty tricks isn't going to do any good now either. I've been through the dark days with Kerry, so I'm not so worried. I understand his campaign style. But the media should be held to account, for their bullshit "reporting" on the war and letting all of Bush's lies slide by, as much as for their crappy reporting on Kerry. Because there's still next year and the best chance to get changes made quickly when Kerry is President, is to challenge the media.

[mzmolly]

40. Who's we, do YOU speak for everyone here?

I have a few words for you then... "get used to it."

"But the media should be held to account, for their bullshit "reporting" on the war and letting all of Bush's lies slide by, as much as for their crappy reporting on Kerry."

Kerry is the one to hold them accountable, and he is falling short IMHO.

[blm]

29. Nope. The power of the media built Dean up and tried to kill Kerry's

candidacy for months.


Kerry pulled through despite the media's hostility. When the media turned on Dean, he was unable to pull through.

[mzmolly]

38. Bologna! The media let John skate until now.

Welcome to media scrutiny.

[Nimble_Idea]

42. I hope you really don't mean that

Please , even I wouldn't say Dean got a free pass by the whore media.

He was pumped up, but only to be killed off later, AS WAS ANY DEM who would have came out the Nominee. I was open for that Being DEAN, but MY VOTE was with Kerry as was the majority.

to point out that John had skates on the past year is to ignore the BLANTANT attack on ALL democrats.

MAKE NO MISTAKE, it didn't FRIGGAN matter who won the DAMN primary, they were ALL going to be Sliced up by the Whore Serpent Media. The media ACTUALLY thought that DEMS didn't have a CHANCE of beating SHRUB and they KEPT HARPING on it OVER AND OVER AND OVER,
THAT SHRUB WAS Unstoppable and they were all running to be losers.

The free pass that Shrub has gotten is SICK. I'm not going to go into my attack on that because that's what you should have done, instead of wasting time attacking John Kerry about how he got a free pass.

Please spare us all. I hope you were kidding.....you were right....?

[mzmolly]

47. NO I wasn't kidding. JK got pretty much a pass in the primaries.

So did anyone who wasn't the front runner. Dean paid the price for peaking too soon.

I don't think the media deliberately gave JK a free pass, I just don't think they had much reason to discuss him when Dean moved out front.

[blm]

52. They said his candidacy was dead for months to dry up his fundraising.

They pretty much did the same to Edwards.

They had PLENTY to talk about with Kerry, but they chose not to cover his endorsement from the Fire Fighters and chose NOT to cover his major campaign addresses and chose NOT to cover his call for inquiries into bad intel, choosing, instead, to cover only the horserace aspects of his oft-declared dead campaign.

[Dinger]

44. They assassinated Clark too- by their blackout

of a very excellent candidate. cripes, his resume was so good, it looked made up! I met Wes Clark, and had the opportunity to ask a question at a town meeting, and a more qualified candidate for President I have note seen. Kerry has my vote, no matter what, but he went from "Is he still in the race" type of polling numbers to, "presumptive nominee" pretty damn faast, and without changing his platform. Indicates to me in a big way, the power of the media. He will beat bu$h, but his chances go way down without Clark as his VP. I'll be happy and thrilled to have that proved wrong, but thye repiglican fear of him started when he declared his candidacy, and when he won Oklahoma, they freaked out, and the blackout began.

[DEMVET-USMC]

19. CNN`s Polls are wrong !

I do not think you will have a problem with that statement, but for any that do please check out the: American Research Group`s polls. In my opinion they are the most reliable. I agree with you wholeheartedly that CNN and most, if not all of mainstream American media is engaged in an all out effort to discredit Sen. Kerry any way they can dream up. We will do our part to see that the truth is made clear. This CHICKENHAWK IN CHARGE does not know what the heck is going on when it comes to National Security or anything else for that matter. John Kerry does. He is a very distinguished WAR VETERAN and has served as a U.S. Senator for many years on the different commitees concerned with such matters. .....Oscar

[CityDem]

24. CNN goes wherever the wind blows

One week CNN is trashing Bush and praising Richard Clarke. The next week they trash Clarke and love Condi. Same is true with Bush and Kerry. CNN is losing ratings and is desperately trying to find more viewers.

[bluedog]

25. have you noticed

nothing abour hagel saying there should be a draft........now that IS news........

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

30. Mmmm, Dean.

[blm]

31. Why does the Kerry campaign use Meehan as a spokesman? He is NOT agile.

He is NOT the right person to talk for Kerry. He speaks in political platitude talk - NO SUBSTANCE OR CHARM. Get him OFF the tube.

You do NOT answer a veteran with a campaign worker who did not SERVE and does not UNDERSTAND. Why do something SO stupid? Did Wolf Blitzer set it up that way?

[Larkspur]

33. Chickenhawk Noodle News vis wannabe-chickehawk Kerry

I hope they make a Video game out of it.

[West Coast Democrat]

36. No one watches CNN

I only watch Capital Gang on a regular basis, and they are pretty rough on Bush*.

Most people watch the big 3 networks.

[July]

37. Stop watching CNN. The more who stop, the better.

Tell them what you're doing if you want to, but most importantly, don't watch. They will connect the dots.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

46. I agree, and I stopped watching cnn

[Snivi Yllom]

48. You can;t give CNN all the credit, Kerry has been waging a lot of the war

against himself.

[Loonman]

53. Blitzer took the money

Still does, too.