So are these new crazy pastor videos going to sink Obama?

[acrosstheuniverse]

Will this be the nail in the coffin for his chances to win the nomination at least before the convention?

[Moochy]

1. From Fox's Airwaves to HRC's Supporters Fingertips

Noone Reply to the OP, unless you are a Blind Hillary Clinton Supporter who clutches their purse/manbag at the sight of scary black pastors!

[wndycty]

40. LOL . . .YES MANY OF THE SAME BLACK PASTORS HILLARY HAS PANDERED TO?

:kick:

[Iceburg]

43. Seems like FOX is the only MSM covering the candidates and not Britney Spears

[Moochy]

44. Geraldine Ferraro Works For Fox

Go figure that some HRC supporters praise fox coverage.

[Iceburg]

46. Ya gotta give FOX for telling the truth while MSNBC wants to keep it in the closet.

[Moochy]

51. More Fair And Balanced Lies From an HRC supporter

FOX IS THE BEST!

[jlake]

2. Yes.

[David Dunham]

3. The videos are very bad for Obama.

[Iceburg]

45. There is no way to spin these...this is damaging /nt

[formernaderite]

47. I don't know how he explains this

but someone from his campaign or better yet...Obama must address this now, before it has an impact on his nomination. I haven't been in a religious institution in over thirty years, so I have no idea what the rhetoric is usually like...but I really can't stand fire and brimstone from anyone on any issue. This pastor sounds a bit looney to me.

[anamandujano]

4. It's just about time for him to quote Gary Hart, "let's go home."

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[anamandujano]

6. Wasn't Tweety all glum about something last week that he knew was

going to hit the great uniter? No doubt everyone in the media has known about this for awhile. They care.

Soon all the TV watchers will care. You won't even give a second thought to the Hillbots.

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[LittleClarkie]

10. Dude, there are still civility rules on the board

Chill, eh?

We're winning. No need to go there.

[FrenchieCat]

8. Yes....because personal attacks once or so removed

are always what people want to see when they are worried about their own lives.

Since the Muslim stories didn't get him, and the "he's Jesse Jackson" and "he's lucky to be Black" won't finish him off, and since Rezko doesn't seem to be giving to the Hillary camp, the stories of his pastor saying stuff that might offend the good taste of the conservative moral police will.

Just like stories of Bill Clinton's Gennifer Flowers and Whitewater and Vince Foster's death destroyed Clinton's chance at two terms.

and just like Bush's DUI, AWOLness and lying about war cut short his two terms,

this should signal the end of the frontrunner.

Plus considering that most Black folks know about his church very well, I think it only puts the nails on the coffin of a Democratic President in November, if nothing else.

[Neshanic]

9. Well here, no. But in the vast stupidity that is America this one is gonna leave a mark.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

11. Nah.. They're actually a GOOD thing IMO. They'll put the "Muslim" rumor to rest.

And Obama can laugh off anything said by anyone who's not associated with his campaign.

He can repeat what he's already said about the "old politics", using "religion as a bludgeon".

And how's Obama to be held responsible for an elderly retired former pastor who occasionally got a little carried away? If he's rally clever, he subtly can tie Jeremiah Wright's eccentricities to those of John McCain.

All Obama needs to do is keep his cool on this and all the other rightwing/HRC attempts to bait him into becoming "the scary, angry Black man".

[goclark]

14. With all the Jerry Falwell types in the Republican Party

they sure can't say it's wrong to be Christian.

Why is it that Democrats can't be Baptist or Born again or whatever gets them through this life?

Maybe it's because I'm African American and have visited so many churches in my life time.

Preachers are like apples on a tree -- most are well meaning and some are not.

Most people that I know select churches for various reasons ~ their friends/family attend, you like the community service that they do,you like the sermons, the music, the location etc.

Nobody ever questions GWB about going to church when he was telling everyone he was "born again" and found Jesus. What church does he not attend every Sunday?

Gotta hand it to the republicans, they don't really give a damn what you think of them, they just keep stealing votes.

GOBAMA!

[smalll]

15. You got that right, it'll help to put the Muslim rumor to rest --

"No, I'm not a Muslim! Both my parents were atheists! And I'm a member of a black supremacist church!" Wonder how well those explanations will play in Peoria? :eyes:

[Ashy Larry]

12. I don't think his pastor is crazy.

[blogslut]

13. No

It means the repubs had to break out the truly nasty weapons early. At least, I think it was repubs, as far as I know.

[jackson_dem]

16. No. The rethug msm will save them for October. Obama is still their candidate

[goletian]

17. no because obama is a secular progressive

the most evil and godless type of democrat there is!

[JoFerret]

18. Hello new person

Do you have a spoon with you?

I think the GOP will be salivating over them. Yes.

McCain will not directly but his campaign surrogates with serve the issue up slice after slice.

[goletian]

20. do you have a sippy cup, old timer?

the gop can salivate all it wants, they wont be very successful if they plan on manipulating religious zealots in the country; all of those crazies vote republican anyway. this is a non issue to people who know religion has no place in government. obama understands this, and so does everyone else thats already determined to elect him.

[jefferson_dem]

19. Nope. Sorry.

And welcome to DU! :hi:

[goletian]

21. hi! thank you.

people think they can talk smack because im new? well, obamas considered "new" and hes giving hillary a run for her money! ha!

[susankh4]

22. They will either sink him now...

or in November.

To be honest... I don't care anymore.

[paperbag_ princess]

23. I think it is bad for the GE

Most democrats will look past that stuff for the nomination.

It will be the middle America swing voters that will just swing to McCain...I think that soft middle likes both Obama and McCain equally

[eallen]

24. They certainly sink his pastor's chances for election.

Of course, his pastor isn't running for anything.

:hippie:

[DemVet]

25. Yeah, they'll be a nagging thorn in his side. n/t

[TwilightGardener]

26. Does it get less important than an overzealous preacher? Seriously.

I think most people realize that Obama isn't responsible for the rantings of the (former) head of his congregation. Unless Obama also advocates this man's positions, it's a non-starter. There's Hagee (McCain's supporter, whose endorsement McCain actively sought) out there calling Catholicism the "Whore Church"--so the battle of the nutso preachers will be a wash in the GE.

[Bullet1987]

27. That's what people said about Donnie McClurkin and you saw how that

turned out.

[oviedodem]

28. It is amazing how this ONE pastor who Obama does not even trumpet is such a big deal.

I stopped going to Babptist churches and such because during the 2004 campaign, it was extraordinary how they inject themselves into politics. In addition, has Wright ever been on stage giving an endorsement to Obama? NOOOOO!

But McCain's is on stage with him and it gets like 1 day of press. F this S**t.

[Bake]

42. Obama doesn't trumpet him?

He calls him his "spiritual advisor" of 20 years? He was the inspiration for the TITLE OF OBAMA'S BOOK?

Yeah, it's just one crazy preacher. As bad as McClurkin was, this is waaaaay worse. This is "God Damn America" on every TV, radio, and print ad in the country. Obama can't raise enough money to get past this one.

Are you people fucking blind? You you even give a shit about winning in November?

Bake

[Metric System]

29. Headlines like this from ABC News ("Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11") won't

help.

[scheming daemons]

31. "Person Who Obama Knows Says Bad Things - news at 11"

:eyes:

[Metric System]

32. Hey, I'm just quoting the headline, don't blame me for the state of the MSM.

[scheming daemons]

33. Didn't blame you... just pointed out what a silly non-story it is...

...

[Metric System]

34. I don't think it's any more of a non-story than the Ferraro fiasco. Obama's relationship with Wright

is deeper and goes farther back than Hillary's friendship with Geraldine. Wright even gave him the idea for the name of his book.

[scheming daemons]

38. Wright isn't working on his campaign.... Ferraro WAS working on Hillary's campaign...

...

[Metric System]

41. So? That doesn't negate the controversial nature of either Ferraro or Wright's comments.

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[kwassa]

35. Rev. Wright isn't crazy, so no, it won't sink him.

[Iceburg]

49. "Rev. Wright isn't crazy". Your opinion. But I tend to think that most sentient beings will see

the videos for what they are -- appalling sexism and racism of the highest order.

[kwassa]

52. I see. You speak for most sentient beings? You are so privileged.

When did you win that election? and how much do you know about black churches, anyways?

There really isn't racism, you apparently don't understand the definition of the word.

His talk is racial, but not racist, and there is a very big difference.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

36. NO! because it's like saying that my football coach has an opinion

[NorthernSpy]

37. on the contrary, they'll give us the excuse we needed to scrutinize McCain's Christian Zionists...

"If it came to a choice between American and Israel, I would stand with Israel."


Kay Arthur, associate of McCain's Rev Hagee

[DearAbby]

Hillary had to go on NATIONAL TV Last night and APLOGIZE

for what one person in her campaign did. Will she have to apologize again? This manufactured controversy reeks of racism, trying to prove Obama is a racist. The bigots couldn't do it one way, so they are going around in circles to do it another. They must love for their candidate to eat their pride and apologize to the nation, and to the AA community.

This totally reeks.

[MethuenProgressive]

39. Chicago Tribune: ""In Wright he had found both a spiritual mentor and a role model."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-070121-relig_wright,1,271630.story

Role model...

[Seabiscuit]

48. I think it will sink him ...

but you know in the GE the RW will nail him with hit constantly in the media and of course on the radio. I happened to listen to a small portion of Hannity on the radio (don't ask me why .. I was moving around channels) and I caught Insannity saying, "What if a white candidate hung out with the KKK or some other white only group would you call me a racist? Then if Obama has gone to the that church for over 20 years what makes him different? Why didn't he leave the church if there is such hate speech he doesn't disagree with?" I think that Barack Obama needs to do something about this now because if the GE turns out into a racist/religious slugfest we are all doomed.

[zulchzulu]

50. Videos from a candidate's former pastor should be an issue?

[Iceburg]

53. It all about judgment; maintaining a 20 year relationship with a racist,sexist, anti-American

radical preacher. Combine that with a 17 year relationship with the crime figure Rezko.

[Moochy]

54. What does a Candian care about all this?

Do they get Fox News in Ottowa? isnt it called sky?

[Megahurtz]

55. NOT.

A gallant effort on HilLIARry's part though.