13% of Americans think Obama is a Muslim

[Stinky The Clown]

So said Matthews, quoting from a poll released today.

[MannyGoldstein]

1. What Percentage Take Him At His Word?

And have no reason to believe that he is?

[depakid]

52. What percentage watch him?

:rofl:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

2. I'm Shocked By That. I'm Shocked There Were Bush Supporters Who DIDN'T Think So.

Course, I'm probably giving them far too much credit. They probably didn't know what muslim meant.

[rhett o rick]

23. Hey operation, (may i call you operation?) I think this is the first post i agree with you. nm

[redstate_democrat]

3. Because

they are stupid and probably the result of intra-familial sexual relations. How's that?

[Muttocracy]

6. inter- means between; intra- means within

interstate commerce goes between or among states
intravenous drugs are in the veins

[redstate_democrat]

30. LOL!

Yes, you are correctomundo! INTRA! I have to make sure my intra and inter don't get mixed up!

[Muttocracy]

38. at first maybe I thought you were making a joke with it

you know, like - they're practicing heterosexuals! there is dihydrogen monoxide in our food! people were masticating in public!

[Muttocracy]

4. considering the % of people who believe in ghosts, etc. I'm surprised it's that low nt

[catgirl]

11. Comparing people who believe in ghosts with lies/ rumors?

I lived with a ghost for 5 years. My scientist husband doesn't question it.
You comparing ignorant people with experienced people, is downright
stupid.

Btw, I didn't believe, or disbelieve in ghosts until it was proven to me.

*There are are ghost stories dating back centuries. I guess a lot of people
had delusions? At the present, the only delusional person I've seen, is HRC.

[woolldog]

17. lol

:rofl:

[catgirl]

47. Back at you AH, Tr*ll, j*rk, fr**p, ignored.

[Muttocracy]

41. both are case where people are told stories and they believe them

Without evidence. You don't say your husband believes in them - just that he doesn't question it. Probably because you'd jump down his throat too.

For centuries people believed the sun went around the earth, all kinds of crazy ideas about disease and the weather. And btw, scientists don't do proof. We do failure to reject the current null hypothesis.

[catgirl]

46. Excuse Mister know it all

I lived with the ghost years before I met my husband. my roommate also saw the ghost for years, and tenants before
me. I had EVIDENCE. How crude of you to suggest I would "jump down his throat".

You're no scientist, so don't even pretend to one. You're just a jerk.

[Muttocracy]

56. Maybe you do have evidence and just haven't described it

I am a scientist. Neither you calling me a jerk nor you putting me on ignore makes my college degrees and career go "poof".

[catgirl]

48. Ignored jack*ss

[rhett o rick]

24. Or Angels. nm

[Muttocracy]

39. and that the earth is 6000 years old (after all, someone they know told them that too) nt

[rhett o rick]

58. Mysticism will never die. nm

[nam78_two]

5. I suspect that is a subset of the 19% that still think Bush is super-duper awesome.nt

[ossman]

7. REDNECKS

[rhett o rick]

26. Hey, help me out. Is it politically incorrect to call stupid people stupid??

Any connection with redneck is purely coincidental.

[DeadEyeDyck]

8. 13 % about right. What percent is in asylums? N/T

[Liberal Veteran]

9. And about half of Americans don't believe in evolution.

So given the ignorance and gullibility of the American public, I can handle the 13% who are probably bigots anyway.

[New Dawn]

10. Some Americans also think that the USSR was in Central America

And that Poland is in Africa.

[Muttocracy]

42. what did that beauty pageant girl say about it? we need more maps, right? nt

[K-Check]

12. Didn't a recent poll also say that 1 in 3 h.s. seniors thought Columbus

discovered America "sometimes after 1750" ?

Thank the FSM that no child is being left behind...

[haymakeragain]

13. Mensa is 13% of the population?

Wow, who knew.

[Monty__]

14. Vice President

Wasn't there a poll after Bush was given the election but before 9/11 that said something like 40% of Americans didn't know who the VP was?

[L0oniX]

15. Well we should feel sorry for them because they were born as morans and remain that way..

[blogslut]

16. Well, then the MSM is slacking

I mean, don't 30% still think Saddam planned 9/11?

Lazy MSM. The public is desperate for misinformation!

[bdamomma]

18. that is such BS,

how many times is he going to say he's Christian, that is total ignorance.

[jazzjunkysue]

19. 30% think the earth revolves around the sun.

At one time 70% thought Sadam Hussein took down the towers on 9/11. That's down around 30, now.

[rhett o rick]

20. I that a high percentage of Americans believe in Angels.

I believe there are a lot of kooks in America.

[Redstone]

21. WAY over 13% of Americans are unredeemable ignorant. So it's not news to me.

Redstone

[goodgd_yall]

22. I hope they can't (or don't ) vote. n/t

[Exilednight]

25. This is what happens when you poll out in front of the White House employee gate.

[rhett o rick]

27. Rationalization is the key to happiness. I find that people will rationalize

whatever is necessary to keep their world intact.

[Forkboy]

28. I'm just surprised the idiot quotient is that low.

[yardwork]

29. And they are all a subgroup of the 19% who think chimpy's doing a heckuva job.

Problem over.

[annie1]

33. ah, good point.

[theredpen]

31. This just in 13% of Americans think Jesus rode dinosaurs to church

Here is a true fact: 34% of Americans believe that aliens visit this planet in UFOs.

This 19% is dumber than them.

[annie1]

32. that's pretty pathetic. when making calls for hillary i actually had to explain...

to someone that he was christian and not muslim. so lame. people are weird.

[Drachasor]

34. 30%+ think Bush is a good President, so this isn't that bad

[HughMoran]

35. Well, that's roughly half of the 25% that will support even a moran like Bush

So it's not entirely beyond the scope. Some people are just ignorant morans and they aren't going to stop anytime soon.

[Leo 9]

36. The Right-Wing Project to Cast Obama as a Muslim and Anti-Semite

The Right-Wing Project to Cast Obama as a Muslim and Anti-Semite

By Ari Berman, The Nation. Posted March 13, 2008.


He's been defended by AIPAC on his Israel views, made it clear that he's Christian, yet the media keeps swallowing right-wing lies.


He's a Muslim. He was sworn into office on the Koran. He doesn't say the Pledge of Allegiance. His pastor is an anti-Semite. He's a tool of Louis Farrakhan. He's anti-Israel. His advisers are anti-Israel. He's friends with terrorists. The terrorists want him to win. He's the Antichrist.


By now you've probably seen at least some of these e-mails and articles about Barack Obama bouncing around the Internet. They distort Obama's religious faith, question his support for Israel, warp the identity and positions of his campaign advisers and defame his friends and allies from Chicago. The purpose of the smear is to paint him as an Arab-loving, Israel-hating, terrorist-coddling, radical black nationalist. That picture couldn't be further from the truth, but you'd be surprised how many people have fallen for it. The American Jewish community, one of the most important pillars of the Democratic Party and US politics, has been specifically targeted . What started as a largely overlooked fringe attack has been thrust into the mainstream -- used as GOP talking points, pushed by the Clinton campaign, echoed by the likes of Meet the Press host Tim Russert. Falsehoods are repeated as fact, and bits of evidence become "elaborate constructions of malicious fantasy," as the Jewish Week, America's largest Jewish newspaper, editorialized.


What floods into one's inbox these days bears little or no relation to Obama's record. "Some of my earliest and most ardent supporters came from the Jewish community in Chicago," he has said. Obama ran for the Senate promising to help reconstitute the black-Jewish civil rights coalition. His first foreign policy speech of the campaign was before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), where he pledged "clear and strong commitment to the security of Israel." He has occasionally angered pro-Israel hawks by urging direct negotiations with Iran and Syria, but Obama's foreign policy record is well within the Democratic Party mainstream. He's committed to a two-state solution between Israel and the Palestinians, supported Israel's incursion into Lebanon in 2006 and has criticized Hamas. During his campaign for the presidency, Obama has been defended by AIPAC, the neoconservative New York Sun and The New Republic's Marty Peretz, a noted Israel hawk. And yet no defense of Israel by Obama -- or of Obama by the pro-Israel establishment -- seems to be enough. "When one charge is disproved, another is leveled," says Rabbi Jack Moline, who leads a synagogue in Alexandria, Virginia.


It's nearly impossible to decipher where the smears originated . The Jewish Telegraphic Agency traced one e-mail back 200 people before it stopped with a filmmaker in Tel Aviv who didn't receive a return address. "No one knows if it's the Clintons, a rogue agent or a Rove agent," says Congressman Steve Cohen, a Jewish Obama backer who represents a largely black district in Memphis. Likely it's a combination of the three.


snip

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/79627 /

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5065378&mesg_id=5065378

[Adelante]

37. Well, that ain't bad

I would have expected twice that given the intensity of the smear campaign.

[better tomorrow]

40. 13 is a magical number in occult circles and in Bush Presidency

interesting they use that number......

[varelse]

43. Oh for fuck's sake :(

The only thing I find more annoying than idiots who still think Obama is a Muslim, are idiots who are convinced that "Muslim" = "terrorist". This crap has touched on my last living nerve :grr:

Is there any possibility of people stepping up to "defend" the Senator against this false association *also* stepping up and acknowledging that there IS, in fact, a DIFFERENCE between the term "Muslim" or "Islam" and "Terrorist" or "Terrorism"? ANYONE?

[rhett o rick]

60. "In the land of gullible chuckleheads, a democracy may be the most dangerous thing to have." anon

[From The Left]

44. Mark Penn Has Work to Do

[jackson_dem]

45. Damn, it is rising. It was 6%. Obama is dealing with this as badly as Kerry with the swifboaters

It has been going on for about a year and he still hasn't been able to effectively respond to it.

[From The Left]

49. He's up against the Filthy Clinton machine

[Mooney]

53. But now that the Wright story is going to spread like wildfire

won't people find our that he's not a Muslim?

[last_texas_dem]

61. I'm sure the right-wing

will figure out someway to convince the dumbasses of America that he is simultaneously both a radical Xian and a covert Muslim. Hell, they successfully managed to paint Al Gore as a serial liar who would say anything to win and John Kerry as a coward who stabbed Vietnam vets in the back; they're geniuses at this shit.

[Rageneau]

50. What percentage believe the Clintons to be racist?

Because that is no more true than it is true that Obama is a Muslim.

Personally though, since I like fair play, I hope as many people who are persuaded that the Clintons are racists will be persuaded that Obama is a Muslim.

That way, the lies will cnacel each other out.

If they ARE lies.

[Umbram]

51. There is a DU'er CLAIMING HE IS Muslim! (nt)

[tekisui]

54. THose 13% probably still support chimpy.

no worries.

[Mz Pip]

55. I guess that's less than

the number of idiots who still believe Saddam had something to do with 9/11. Maybe that's progress. :shrug:

[canadian_is_cold]

57. 41% of Americans still believe Saddam Hussein was behind 911 n/t

[last_texas_dem]

59. Well, that's progress, I guess...

That's probably a smaller percentage than still think Iraqis attacked us on 9-11 or that Saddam had WMD's.