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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:17 PM
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Is Sen. Bill BRADLEY TRUTHFUL when he say's that the CLINTONS are "LYING"
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 09:33 PM by Sensitivity
in their pursuit of victory?? Bradley has a reputation of a straight-shooter, a man of integrity. If his charge is true, to the extent that Bradley seems willing to argue, then shouldn't the one aspect of her campaign discredit it entirely.

Clearly the Obama campaign has also been caught in "mis-statements," but even Dan Abrams of MSNBC (pretty much as Clinton booster) says: "she is just guilty of more falsehoods, cheep-shots and blunders."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3511833.ece

Former senator Bill Bradley, who is a leading supporter of Obama and ran for president in 2000, accused the Clintons of “lying” in pursuit of victory.

“The bigger the lie, the better the chance they think they’ve got. That’s been their whole approach,” he said. “She’s going to lose a whole generation of people who got involved in politics believing it could be something different.”
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:21 PM
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1. That's one dysfunctional family ... I hope Chelsea makes it out..but I won't vote for her either.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:21 PM
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2. Absolutely
And Bradley is not some loose cannon who says such things lightly.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:22 PM
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3. Bill is the one politician whom I trust implicitly. n/t
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CookCountyResident Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:33 PM
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4. Yes, and
what would be in it for him otherwise? Nothing. He has nothing to gain by making such a statement.


He's always been a straight shooter (basketball pun intended)!
:7

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:40 PM
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7. We don't even have to use the
sarcasm thingy anymore.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:38 PM
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5. Bill Bradley is twenty times worse a liar than Hillary is. And he is a pederast, too.
Like Bill Bradley, I can make any wild charge I want to if I'm not required to back it up with any actual proof. Bradley claims the Clintons are mega-liars, but is somehow unable to point to a single specific lie.

That makes him like most Clinton haters. Their hatred feels so RIGHT to them it convinces them that every negative thought they have about the Clintons just HAS to be true.

Same thing just happened to me. I hate Bill Bradley. That's how I know he is a child molester.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:41 PM
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8. Thank you. Bradley is a dumb@ss and you only need listen to him
for a few minutes for evidence.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:42 PM
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9. Bradley is just bitter that Clinton's VP beat the crap...
out of him for the nomination eight years ago.
Yes, Bill Bradley is a horrific liar.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:09 PM
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14. I agree - Bradley is a liar - and wasn't all that good as an NBA player
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 10:12 PM by papau
one all star appearance and he gets in the Basketball Hall of Fame - He's lucky NY had a few winning seasons when he was on the team.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:23 PM
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21. They did better once he left!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:49 AM
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31. True!
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:51 PM
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11. Bradley offered to provide specifcs on CNN. With little time he
referrenced the Clinton mailer late in New Hampshire campaign which totally misrpresented Obama's position on CHOICE. I remember that one of the Clinton team quit in protest over the false mailer.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:18 PM
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17. "unable to point to a single specific lie" ROFLMAO!
There isn't enough time in the day or server space to log all the Clinton lies over the years.

















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elmerdem Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:52 AM
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30. WTF?
Your approach is sad. He was willing to give examples. It must suck to live your life being that vile, unhinged & hateful.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:38 PM
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6. Yes, their unwillingness to release documents from Bill's Library to confirm their claims seems to
prove that their claims are not true.

If they had documents to prove what they claim as Hillary's experience while in the White House they would release them.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 09:46 PM
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10. Then there's those shredded docs from Obama's state senate office.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:06 PM
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12. Of course he is truthful.... I still
have my Bradley button to prove it.

He is the "real deal" as far as I am concerned. WAY ahead of his time(s).
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:08 PM
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13. “She’s going to lose a whole generation of people who got involved in politics ...
...believing it could be something different.”

That's one of my biggest problems with her - she's hurting democracy itself.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:12 PM
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15. When Bill Bradley says someone is lying, he simply couldn't tolerate the lying any longer
I have only the deepest respect for Bradley. He is the Gold Standard for a good human being. If he says (or politely implies) that the Clintons are lying, he measured out whether he needed to have the obvious said...and said the truth.



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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:12 PM
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16. Awe, poor dollar bill bradley.....he claims hrc lies but never says
what the lie is in reference too.....hell, I can play that game too....accuse Bradley of “lying” in pursuit of lying to help the obama campaign.

The bigger the lie, the better the chance people will fall for it and support obama. That’s been bradley's whole approach,” . "He's going to lose a whole generation of people who got involved in politics believing it could be something different" uh huh and once it becomes clear that obama was guilty of playing the race card often against hrc and got a willing press to go along with this but because of the "hole in Mr obama's soul" he had to confess this and sadly walked away from politics.....


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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:18 PM
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18. He DID SAY on CNN today.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:25 PM
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23. Bill Bradley was missing in action on Bush's misdeads.
We never heard from him since the 2000 election.
Suddenly this jackass comes out of the woodwork.
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:20 PM
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19. There you go...you just confirmed Bradley has a grudge from back in 2000
I've always thought Bradley was a weasel. Folks must have figured him out back in 2000 and rejucted his candidacy. Where have his comments been for the last 7 years...I haven't heard one peep from him criticising bush or the war...and the lies to get there.
He trote out his long-held grudge against the Clintons....he should go back into his hole where he's been hiding for 7 years.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:22 PM
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20. That's what I was just thinking. Did he ever speak against Bush?
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:09 AM
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26. YES, of course Bradley has opposed Bush. Would be helpfull of some here knew a litte of the facts
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 12:09 AM by Sensitivity

One by one, former U.S. Senator Bill Bradley lists the failings of Bush's SOTUS in The State of the Unilateralist Case , in today's Washington Post . . .


http://www.talkleft.com/story/2003/02/02/143/29619
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:24 PM
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22. Bill Bradley was missing in action Bush's misdeads.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:32 PM
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24. Bill Bradley knows first hand how to smear the democratic nominee
Obama needs Bradley's opinions , like a general needs a broken compass.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:57 PM
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25. Bradley has no credibility.
He spent most of the 2000 campaign lying about Al Gore.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:13 AM
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27. Please give some exampe or this is just smear
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:39 AM
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28. I wasn't the one asked but here is a text book example
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh110102.shtml

MORT KONDRACKE: THE LAST HONEST MAN: One journalist, Mort Kondracke, resisted the use of the Horton Card. In particular, Kondracke resisted the greatest act of dissembling of the 2000 race. That act was performed by Bill Bradley.

On January 12, 2000, Bradley conducted a remarkable interview with the Boston Herald. (New Hampshire voting was three weeks away. Bradley was behind in the polls.) Bradley “launch a laser-sharp new line of attack against Al Gore,” the paper’s Andrew Miga reported the next day. In his interview with the Herald, Bradley “ripped the vice president for injecting racism into the 1988 campaign by raising the Willie Horton case against Michael Dukakis.” Now Bradley was playing the Horton Card too. And Bradley—alas!—knew much better.

Bardley’s attack was especially striking because of something he’d written a few years before. Bradley’s 1996 best-seller, Time Present, Time Past, included a chapter on race in politics. And in the book, Bradley specifically said that Gore had not mistreated race in discussing the furlough matter. Here was the passage in question:

BRADLEY (Time Present, Time Past): In 1988, the race card was played more subtly. The Bush presidential campaign skillfully linked the Democratic candidate, Michael Dukakis, with a black man named Willie Horton, who had raped a woman and stabbed a man while on furlough from a Massachusetts prison, where he had been serving time for murder. Oddly, the first politician to mention Horton (but without racializing it) was not Bush but Senator Al Gore. In the New York Democratic primary that spring, he attacked Dukakis for his prison-furlough program. The Republicans, though, emphasized Horton’s blackness.
In 1996, Bradley said that Gore had attacked the furlough program “without racializing it.” Now—trailing in the polls—he decided to say just the opposite.

end of quote

Either he developed amnesia or out and out lied about Gore.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:15 AM
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29. K & R
:thumbsup:
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:55 AM
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32. As a long-time family friend, I trust Bradley completely. He's too good for politics. (n/t)
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