This is starting to disturb me... some posters here are lying about Wright

[Levgreee]

exaggerating the claims into exactly how the right-wingers would put it, interpreting it in the worst possible way. I think they are purposely doing this, out of spite for Obama. In my opinion, it is harmful and disloyal to the Democratic party. It is spreading right-wing memes.

Wright is not a bigot. Wright did not say that the U.S. deserved to be attacked, he just said we should not be surprised, that we helped create the political situation, and condoned similar behavior against other countries. This is, in fact, largely true.

I suppose everyones free to post what they want, even if it is lies, disinformation, and right-wing memes. I just wanted to voice my distaste of this, and think it is pitiful that Democrats(?) have come to this length to try to discredit Obama.

[anamandujano]

1. I guess you haven't read many of your friends posts on Hillary.

[Levgreee]

4. The lies and disinformation have not been embraced here.Most of the attacks are opinions, based on

facts. Notice I say opinions.

[anamandujano]

9. Say what?

You're delusional. I'm sure if I did a search I could even find some of your bile.

[Levgreee]

12. Do so, I assure you you could not.

[DURHAM D]

11. LOL

:rofl:

DU is actually fun tonight. Lots of really silly stuff.

[MannyGoldstein]

20. Examples Please?

Thanks in advance.

[MannyGoldstein]

41. I Guess I Won't Wait Up For The Examples...

:boring:

[TahitiNut]

40. Mommy!! Tommy did it first!!

Bwahhh!

(What insane, infantile, bratty crap!)

[tekisui]

2. Latest news cycle.

I doubt it will make it till Sunday. Better now than in October.

[HughMoran]

3. Hmmm, so apparently you don't read the 100 Hillary smears here daily

it would be funny if it wasn't so utterly pathetic.

Meet the mirror.

[KAZ]

17. Because she's the worst candidate our party has EVER HAD!

[HughMoran]

23. Are you still angry? Your other post got deleted

Is it really worth the stress? I'm beginning to wonder...

[meow mix]

5. if i was in the market for a pastor id pick rev. wright

i agree with a lot of what he says, and disagree with some as well =)
very interesting person i can see why he's popular.

glad the hillbot sendt me all these videos of him lol

[anonymous171]

6. I heard Obama was married to Wright.

[Honeycombe8]

7. I saw part of the video. I'd say that he hates white Americans, yessirree.

Anytime someone gets up in front of a black crowd and yells about "white, rich people" who are running the country and causing "poor, black people" all their troubles...and then goes on for a bit speaking hatefully about "white, rich people." Yeah...I'd say he's made it pretty clear he hates "white, rich people" in America.

What is white and rich? Any caucasian (don't know if that includes latinos) who earns more than a poor person? Does it include middle class white people? If I aspire to have money and work hard to get it...that makes me a victim of his hatred?

Yeah, I'd say Obama's done for, unless he has a very good excuse for attending that hatemonger's church.

[Levgreee]

10. newsflash, the economical elite, corporations, are running this country , and deserve our spite

[angie_love]

25. agreed, most americans are too stupid to realize its true.

I strongly disagree with the AIDS comment though, that was absolutely vile.

[Honeycombe8]

31. Listen to preacherman's words. He said, "white, rich people."

Got it? I sure did.

Obama better have a very good excuse, or it's probably over for him.

[leftofcool]

14. 20 years worth of excuses

[tekisui]

16. He spoke truth.

The rich, white people do run this country. Look at the CEO's and heads of the government.

[Rex_Goodheart]

27. He said far more than that

He said our government deliberately gives AIDS and drugs to black people, apparently to kill and imprison them.

He's a jackass, and quite frankly I'm stunned that somebody as intelligent as Barack Obama could ever have name such a stupid jackass his "mentor".

[redstate_democrat]

36. A lot of black people believe this

I guess most white people don't get it, though. You'd have to have experienced a system of government that basically called you 3/5ths of a human being, a non citizen, an "inferior" race, and basically fought tooth and nail against having you sit at the same damn lunch counter as a white person, or drink from the same water fountain, or sit at the front of a bus, or even walk in certain establishments, or attend the same schools as others, etc. And it was THIS government which allowed and MANDATED by law. In state constitutions across this country, it was a CRIME to teach black children, and then, it became the law to segregate them like a plague on society from white children. It was THIS government that did that. So, when black people have a healthy distrust of what this government is capable of, I really don't see how that can be deemed unAmerican. It is American to question everything, including government. Thank you very much for your time.

[MojoMojoMojo]

37. He did request Lieberman to be his other mentor.

"He's a jackass, and quite frankly I'm stunned that somebody as intelligent as Barack Obama could ever have name such a stupid jackass his "mentor"."

[Honeycombe8]

32. And some of my friends...and maybe me, if I earn more than a "poor black" guy?

He has a right to believe how he wants. And white people have a right not to vote for someone who hates them and uses them as an excuse for others' failures.

[tekisui]

38. Not only white people, but all Americans citizens have a right

to vote for their choice, for any reason whatsoever. If this is a deal-breaker for you, that is your choice.

To me, I don't give a shit what any preacher says to anyone. They are all full of it, in my eyes. I base my vote on the candidate, the candidate's voting history and platform.

[redstate_democrat]

42. And you are certaintly entitled to your right

to vote for whoever the hell you want to vote for. And if you think Obama hates white people, you need to seek help as soon as possible.

[la la]

35. geeze-- that sounds like something

geraldine ferraro might have said.

:sarcasm:

[bhikkhu]

53. Perfectly true, on average. Is it forbidden to say so?

Rich white men in this country are about the top 2 or 4 percent of asset holders.

Personally, I don't care. There are going to be a top 2 or 4 percent regardless of whether they are White or Asian or Black or from the middle east...but I don't think we should punish and shun a Southern preacher for saying so, in any case.

[angie_love]

22. You don't actually think Obama believes that crap do you?

No person is truly good or evil. I'm sure Wright has done some good things in his life and has obviously said some bad things. Obama probably likes the good he saw in him but doesn't like the bad. Stop acting so self righteous. I think what Wright said was in really poor taste, but am I stupid to believe that Obama shares this kooks views re: rich white ppl? No not at all. Do I think Obama should disown the freak? Absolutely.

[Neshanic]

29. I would think attending a church for 20 years would qualify as believing an itsy bit

of what is being preached, or the other reason is that Obama is a blatant opportunist and attended the church to help his career.

Either way, that's a guy I want in the WH.

[angie_love]

46. Well unfortunately the good things hes done doesn't get reported.

[redstate_democrat]

30. Were you always this easily

swayed? Seriously? "The rich, white people" offends you?

He said, the country is ran by "rich, white people". Who runs the country? If you are embarrassed or offended by this statement, I suggest we try to do something to change that reality.

[DebJ]

43. so you think the top 10% who own everything in this country

are NOT 99% white?

[thoughtcrime1984]

51. Just quit pretending you're an Obama supporter

OK??

[bhikkhu]

52. I watched quite a bit and saw no hate at all

Perhaps I am naive, or not prone to fear.

[leftofcool]

8. I think it speaks for itself

It isn't just that one line or paragraph. He is correct on that. But this..... "America created the AIDS virus to give to poor Black folk." You might should read or listen to the full sermon.

[anonymous171]

18. I think that it's too inflammatory.

Many may just brush him off as Obama's crazy friend.

[MojoMojoMojo]

45. Many will brush off Obama for associating with a crazy friend who hates America

"Many may just brush him off as Obama's crazy friend."

[anonymous171]

47. You sound kind of like a freeper there.

[rucky]

13. I heard they both got "BFF" tattoos together.

[saracat]

15. Mostly I have seen transcripts and videos posted It is tough to lie about it. And it isn't pretty.

[Nitrogenica]

19. Too much FOX news will do that too you.

*shudders*

Next thing you know they're listening to Rush every day.

[Rex_Goodheart]

21. Why don't you go stick your head in the sand while you're at it?

Wright said "God damn America"... can't get much worse than that.

Watch the video. His hatred for white people is palpable.

[Levgreee]

26. I'd damn America for what it has done, i.e. Iraq War, also

Does America = white people? I am missing something. I haven't seen him say he hates all white people.

[Rex_Goodheart]

28. There's a difference between damning America and condemning some

of its past actions. I'm sorry you want harm and evil inflicted upon us. Perhaps you should move out.

[Levgreee]

33. It was rhetorical, he didn't literally mean "damn america to hell". It was more like"shame on you"

Your opinion is wrong, that he literally hates America and everyone in it, instead of just damning what America, especially the ruling class, has done.

[MojoMojoMojo]

48. What the hell is a preacher doing using gods name in vain anyway?

Just that alone will repulse most Americans.But "God Damn America " is like saying 'Fuck your Mother" to most Americans.
I think if he had said "shame on you America" it would have been a more effective sermon.But he didnt and it doesnt matter if he intended to.At least it wont matter with the way Americans are going to respond.
BTW please dont try to embrace or justify the saying "God Damn America" .It will just make the Republicans yell more loudly."See those Democrats, they really are America haters"

"It was rhetorical, he didn't literally mean "damn america to hell". It was more like"shame on you"
Posted by Levgreee"

[blogslut]

49. oops. there it is

"His hatred for white people is palpable."

The heart of the matter. The crux of the situation. The catalyst of the hostility. The truth behind the outrage.

[pocoloco]

24. He's telling it like it is, and loudly!

Makes a lot of us uncomfortable to realize that things haven't changed as much in the last 50 years as we would have liked.

I say, Amen Brother Wright!!

[QC]

34. You like living dangerously, don't you?

It's going to be a scene straight out of Lord of the Flies when the others turn on you!

[dailykoff]

39. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[barack the house]

44. It's OK their lies are chasing folks away more than drawing people to them.

[LulaMay]

50. He is a bigot, sexist. He claimed Hillary/women aren't called names like the N word.

where is the media outrage on that? Where is Olberman's 'special comment'? (I've got a special comment for him).

Where is the denouncement of it from Obama?

The pastor was speaking about Obama, in support of him, when he said it.

Hillary hasn't been called names? We, women don't know what it's like to suffer such humiliation?

Obama should disavow it, personally, and reject the Revs. 'endorsement.'

[Liquorice]

55. Exactly! If a mentor and spiritual adviser to Hillary had said half of what

Wright has, it would be news 24/7. People would be yelling for her to drop out, calling her a racist, and demanding she beg everyone for forgiveness for even knowing the guy. I'm sure KO would devote an entire week's worth of "Special Comments" about it. It's all so hypocritical.

This Wright thing bothers me on another level as well. Obama says this guy is/was his mentor. It means a lot to label someone your mentor, and therefore it calls into question Obama's personal philosophy... Is it similar to Wright's? How can you have a mentor like Wright and not agree with his basic ideology? Obama named his book after Wright's sermon--that means this guy must carry a great deal of influence with Obama.

[CookCountyResident]

54. It bothers me that the preacher is talking politics

from the pulpit period - a clear violation of 501(c)3 non-profit regs regarding churches.

And it wouldn't surprise me to hear that Robert Sherman (the atheist fond of filing lawsuits) somehow manages to sue this preacher or church as well.