The TRUTH from OBAMA Re: Wright

[SunsetDreams]

Such statements involve "a certain deeply embedded anti-Americanism," said Michael Cromartie, vice president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, a conservative group that studies religious issues and public policy. "A lot of people are going to say to Mr. Obama, are these your views?"

Mr. Obama says they are not.

"The violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification," he said in a recent interview. He was not at Trinity the day Mr. Wright delivered his remarks shortly after the attacks, Mr. Obama said, but "it sounds like he was trying to be provocative."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200803130008?f=h_latest This was reported on April 30, 2007

It had no legs, which is why it didn't hit the airwaves then.

It's going now, because it's nothing but a smear campaign. Obama is challenging the Powerful Elite and they don't like it.

It all started with Ferraro baiting Obama with the racially skewed comments. Then she says he is attacking her because she is white.

Then she resigns, only to vow to still speak out and not apologize.

She goes on Good Morning America this morning and says "This is the last time that Obama will play the race card"

The way she said it, it's as if she knew something was coming. She is a paid pundit for Fox news.


IMO as a white woman, I think the pastor went over the top. BUT I have sat and thought about it and have came to the conclusion regarding 9/11

This might be where he was coming from:

1993: Osama Bin Laden and terrorist attack World Trade Center....Bill Clinton doesn't avenge it

1998: Another country has Osama Bin Laden in custody, offers him up to U.S., Bill Clinton declines

2000: U.S.S. Cole attacked by his thugs, U.S. again does nothing

Then you have 9/11

So I have to say I can see where one might find fault in our inaction.

[maddiejoan]

1. you might have been credible

but you blew it on your WTC and Osama storyline. vis a vis Bill Clinton

and Wright's comments on WTC wasn't about inaction.

[SunsetDreams]

4. Maddie

I understand there is a lot of hurt with Wright's comments.

It's an opinion, and until it's proven untrue, opinions should be credible. I do understand where you're coming from though, because trust me I was upset too.

The WTC comments are all true, research it.

[maddiejoan]

7. I have zero problems with Wrights comments

apart from the fact that I don't believe in a church sermonizing about or supporting a particular candidate, and even then it's Wright's problem --not Obama's.

I do have problems with your distortions of the facts about Bill Clinton, Osama and the WTC.

None of which are true, BTW

1. Osama Bin Laden was not involved in the '93 bombing, and the terrorists involved WERE caught and imprisoned.

2. The story that Clinton was offered Osama on a "silver platter' is a long debunked myth

3. The fact that there was inaction on the USS Cole bombing lies at Bush's feet --not Bill Clinton's.

[JeffR]

18. you continue to be a real treasure here

You're funny, you're perceptive and other than a difference in which candidate we back, I doubt anyone could fit a greased whippet between us on a lot of issues. Your rebuttals above are surgically concise and unimpeachably correct.

Well done.

[maddiejoan]

23. Thanks!

That means a lot to me :)

[JeffR]

34. Don't mention it

:)

[HughMoran]

25. Right on

You've cut to the real issue/problem with this thread - thanks.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

40. you tell 'em maddie!

[Oilwellian]

41. Have to agree with you Maddie

Clinton did far more to address the real threats and the rightwing Congress was too busy investigating his penis and a blue dress. I've always defended Clinton on that issue.

[DURHAM D]

10. You are wrong - right wing propaganda on OBL and WTC.

[Cha]

2. Since Obama has never played the race card..

the only one who's has played the race card as been her leader then psycho gerry's statement is moot.

[leftofcool]

3. I think you might be missing the point or the gist of the problem

Most of us agree that Wright was correct about 9/11........it is his hatred of white people that many moderate Dems will have problems with. It is the blaming of America for the AIDS virus. It is the sexual motions from the pulpit when children are in the sanctuary....Do you see now

[SunsetDreams]

9. ....

what sexual motions?

Obama doesn't hate white people, we can't damn him for his Preachers comments IMO. That is not fair at all.

I think we all have people in our lives that we don't share their views on everything.

This is right wing attack and we are falling for it. That's sad.

[leftofcool]

14. You didn't see the full tape?

Wright made sexual motions/humping when he said Bill Clinton screwed over Blacks like he did Monica.

[BlackVelvet04]

21. Oh, give me a break.....

Obama has supported that church for 20 years and Wright has been his PERSONAL MENTOR for 20 years. You don't sit and listening to that kind of ranting and raving if you don't at some level agree with it. I left a church when they refused to invite the Black Baptist church to a Christmas event. I left a church because they preached against homosexuals and promoted hate. Either Obama approves or is too gutless to take a stand. Take your pick...neither is pretty.

[leftofcool]

32. Yep!

[formernaderite]

11. heck, what do I know about religion

I chuckled when the repubs almost nominated a mormon..but this guy Wright is really whacky too. I pretty much find everything he says abhorrent...but the sexual innuenedo in the pulpit, prob takes the prize. I guess not having been in a church for over thirty years means things have definitely changed.

[SunsetDreams]

12. do you have a link

I must have missed that part.

[leftofcool]

17. You have to see the full tape.

CNN showed it and Fox Showed it but I think it was pulled from U-tube. I had not seen it until this evening on CNN. I read part of the transcript but had not seen the full tape.

[jmg257]

5. Why are you here?

[pocoloco]

6. Something that doesn't kill you will make you stronger.

Better to hash it out now and be done with it for these passions were sure to arise at some point.

[Neshanic]

8. "it sounds like he was trying to be provocative." That's our candidate.

Master of the sublime.

[anamandujano]

16. He'll regret putting that one on record.

I think Obama pretty much agrees with everything Wright said. It's only when he is challenged that he offers a tepid apology. It reminds me of the debate where he was asked about Farrakhan. It was like pulling teeth.

[Neshanic]

27. It's the strong powerfull image that response has that gets me. Look out McCain!

[grantcart]

28. lol it really just sales over your head doesn't it lol

[Neshanic]

30. The only sailing going on here is on the glassy surface of lake Obama.

[boppers]

39. Yes, the Farrakhan thing was like pulling teeth.

She repeatedly demonstrated her lack of basic English vocabulary.

Either she really is weak in her use and mastery of the English language (painful enough), or is so conniving and manipulative that she wanted to drag the two issues closer in voters minds, and was only *pretending* to be dim (this is a candidate from our party? really?).

[grantcart]

26. lol really? thought it was more of a sardonic understatement lol

[anonymous171]

13. You know why Obama doesn't run with the Clinton/Osama story?

Because he won't kneecap a potential presidential nominee. Says a lot.

[QC]

19. Perhaps because it is a lie.

It's a longstanding right wing myth that has made its way onto DU lately.

[anonymous171]

36. Would that stop Hillary from using it against Obama if it was about him?

[jillan]

15. He made those comments about 9/11 in April 2007 and Obama still hasn't distanced himself from this

guy?

What is Olbermann going to say about that.... I mean, he was so mad that it took Hillary a week to distance herself from Geri. Do we get another special comment?

[Occam Bandage]

22. This is the first those comments are getting any real airplay. Politicians usually don't hold

press conferences any time someone disagrees with them.

[ProSense]

29. Did you even go to the link:

ABC's Ross reported Wright's 9-11 remarks -- but not that Obama disavowed them

IMO, Wright's comments were spot on!

[Occam Bandage]

20. 9/11 was Bill Clinton's fault. This message has been brought to you by Free Republic, circa 2002.

[UALRBSofL]

24. I believe in the 1993 WTC bombing

The terrorists were caught.

[Metric System]

31. No, you don't get it:

"BUT I have sat and thought about it and have came to the conclusion regarding 9/11

This might be where he was coming from:

1993: Osama Bin Laden and terrorist attack World Trade Center....Bill Clinton doesn't avenge it

1998: Another country has Osama Bin Laden in custody, offers him up to U.S., Bill Clinton declines

2000: U.S.S. Cole attacked by his thugs, U.S. again does nothing"

I actually kind of get where he's coming from, but it's not what you posted. I don't think Wright was arguing for more US military action in foreign countries. The point he was making (and I'm not necessarily saying I agree with it) is that US foreign policy in the Middle East contributed to the attacks on 9/11. So no, his point definitely was not that Bill Clinton should have used military force.

[TheDoorbellRang]

33. 1993: Clinton didn't avenge it; he just caught all of them and prosecuted them

He didn't have to do the pseudo cowboy avenging act that W has put on. He found em, judged em, and threw em in jail. Price tag a whole lot lower than Iraq War.

USS Cole happened a month before he left office. So he should have started a war and left a month later? No, W and co. are the ones that dropped the ball on that one.

Obama supporter here, and I'll give Bill his due. He never tried to shift blame onto Poppy for the 1993 attack on the WTC, like the Pukes tried to blame him for 9/11.

[boppers]

35. Straight up freeper lies

1993: Osama Bin Laden and terrorist attack World Trade Center....Bill Clinton doesn't avenge it
1998: Another country has Osama Bin Laden in custody, offers him up to U.S., Bill Clinton declines
2000: U.S.S. Cole attacked by his thugs, U.S. again does nothing

Totally wrong, urban legend crap.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/clinton.asp

Since one of those isn't covered there, a "country" didn't "offer" squat. A total freelancer (no government credentials) said he could deliver Osama for a "finder's fee". He was checked out, discovered to be a con man, and his "offer" was blown off for the scam that it was. So, what does a con man do with that? Take it to the media, and make lots more money telling his side of the story.

Kinda sucks to realize how much the RW will lie.




tpyo

[LulaMay]

37. Rev. Wright claimed Hillary/women are not called names like n*gger. Where's Obama, the media?

The bias is ludicrous.

Every woman knows what it is to be called a sexist name, talked down to in a sexist manner.

We ALL do, and he had the nerve to tell us we aren't even oppressed.

[anonymous171]

38. Was Wright on television and radio stations spouting this talking point?

Was he preaching as an official representative of the Obama campaign?