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Thu Mar-13-08 11:01 PM
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I congratulate all the Hillary backers for finally having something to be excited about!! |
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I'm glad to see so many Democrats so happy!!!
Actually, It's really amazing how much joy some Hillary supporters are getting out of this Wright story.
If my whole life revolved around DU, I'd think this Wright story is the biggest story since the Iraq war.
I work in a pretty big office, and didn't hear one person mention the story all day.
I came home and watched CNN, and they had a short piece on the story, but there wasn't really much drama.
I checked some political futures markets, which seem to be horrible at predicting primary winners, but which do a decent job of capturing the current cw. I think Obama's only down about 1 point for the day and still up on Hillary by nearly 50.
Then, I log onto this site, and it's like Obama was just caught spending $80,000 on hookers. This story is overwhelming this site right now. For some reason, I find it somewhat disturbing that people are much more excited here about this story (many gleefully excited) than anywhere else in the world. Are Democrats supposed to be happy about this? Is this all some massive joke that I'm just not getting?
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:02 PM
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1. yeah its sad. disappointing. |
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:02 PM
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2. Sort of like Obama supporters were happy about Geraldine? |
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:03 PM
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5. The difference is that story had legs |
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It preempted Mississippi for christs sake.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:05 PM
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9. Yea, the Wright story has no legs |
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It will only be repeated for the 2 weeks or so, then reemerge when he wins the nomination
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:11 PM
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19. Speaking of emerging .... |
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when are Hillary's tax returns and White House records going to emerge?
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:13 PM
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:17 PM
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24. 2001-2006? That's going to be some hellacious penalties &interest. |
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:22 PM
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26. Uh,... you don't get penalties from IRS for not |
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releasing tax documents to the public. If that were the case, I would be in big trouble as would most of US tax payers
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:25 PM
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32. Please try to keep up. |
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The tax returns that the Clintons have not released are from 2006 and before!
If, as you so deftly stated, those tax returns were filed in April 2008, there would be numerous penalties from the IRS.
Hope it helps!
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Fri Mar-14-08 12:02 AM
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50. Where did I mention anything about 2008? |
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I said she was releasing her tax returns to the public on April 15th. All previous tax returns are private information between IRS and the taxpayer unless the taxpayer wishes to disclose them. The IRS does not impose penalties just because tax returns are not disclosed to the public. The IRS imposes penalties only if you don't file at all or don't pay what you owe. Please familiarize yourself with tax codes and laws. Try Google
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:04 PM
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6. I was upset about the Geraldine story. I knew it would only hurt Obama, eventually. |
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:04 PM
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7. They were ecstatic that the Spitzer thing had the MSM playing back |
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the Monica stuff.
Did you see that thread?
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:05 PM
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12. Yes the Geraldine story had 88 threads |
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For real 88 threads. And I havn't seen 88 Wright threads.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:06 PM
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13. I was not happy about geraldine's racist remarks |
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at all. She disgraced her hilary surrogate SuperD self.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:26 PM
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33. Hell, remember the glee |
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:02 PM
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3. The seagulls start clamoring when they see a crust of bread |
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It doesn't mean that a loaf is forthcoming. The story has no legs, the news today proves that, but they need something to pin some hope to.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:02 PM
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4. It's gonna be as big a story as the "handshake" I think. |
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:05 PM
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8. I have 'em all on Ignore so I'm |
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just seeing the more rational posts on the Pastor White.
Welcome to DU, btw.:)
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:08 PM
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I've been reading the site forever, but just started posting recently.
I am positive I've never seen this site as crazy as it's been the past couple months.
There seems to be more hate and anger directed toward either of these candidates than there ever was to Powell, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, etc. etc. I'm not sure what it all means, but I don't think that it's a good thing.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:16 PM
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23. Let's have a contest... |
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I currently have about 178 HillShills on "ignore"... does anyone have more? Do I hear 200?
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:23 PM
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30. I am so glad to see this..I thought I was being |
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hyper-sensitive!:P Not really, they earned it..I'm gonna go count 'em now.
Oh man, I lost track of counting..but, I'm pretty sure it's 200 or over..Welp!
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:37 PM
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I would go through phases of "ignore" and "not ignore" when I had the worst of them on the list.
Then Hillary left the Democratic Party, so I figured I no longer had to debate or even listen to her supporters. Now, even if I read a slight whiff of Hillary support, off to ignore they go.
Fortunately, I don't see all that many "ignore" replies on threads that I read, which leads me to believe that either a) most of these people are leaving DU or b) they only write responses on threads started by HillShills (which I don't see at ALL :) )
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:40 PM
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42. Yeah, same here..same path..only I see quite |
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few ignores only not very many repsonding to me so maybe I(can only hope)I'm on their ignore system too.
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Fri Mar-14-08 12:11 AM
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54. You're so right. We aren't posting as much anymore because |
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we decided it was just feeding the Glitterbabies, and was not helping either candidate. I don't know when I'll be back up to my usual posting. Right now, just keeping up with what's going on, or visiting other groups. Ya'll can just "talk amongst yourselves".
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:41 PM
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I think I've got over 350. :yoiks:
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:54 PM
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47. Wow, I didn't think there were THAT many Hillary voters |
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here, much less Hillary supporters aka HillShills.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:56 PM
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48. It's an ooold list going back to 2004 :) |
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:05 PM
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10. This type of attack only works for Republicans. |
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It helps them rally their base.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:23 PM
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29. Catapult the propaganda... |
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An obscure blog leaks a story and the base repeats over and over (tsk tsk, did you hear about <insert swiftboat story>)
Then, after it bounces around the blogosphere, someone writes an article ABOUT the blogosphere's obsession and has it published somewhere (and with the wingnuts, hate radio picks up the ball).
Then the echo chamber really gets going... the cable news and finally the network news and big papers.
That's catapulting the propaganda.
The left hasn't really got the hang of this, but Hillary is sure TRYING.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:05 PM
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11. last night was like an infestation |
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:08 PM
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What is the matter with you? Talk about drawing attention to an issue and looking like quite the hypocrite in the process!
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:11 PM
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18. I'll admit, the title was over the top. |
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But I was really getting a little upset about how excited people seem to get over this.
Are we only going to be happy when we've destroyed both our candidates?
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:14 PM
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22. I've already said this story sucks and that we need both of our candidates |
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This is not the kind of story that I like to hear, no Dems should be celebrating this.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:08 PM
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16. Well Walter, you have to laugh at this... |
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All it's proven is Obama is a member of a Christian church. So that means he's not a MUSLIM! :D
Welcome to DU...I think. :hi:
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:10 PM
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17. Desperate convulsions. |
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H. Clnton's campaign is in it's final throes.
I knew it would get ugly but I had no idea how low it would go.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:13 PM
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20. This story has nothing at all to do with the Hillary campaign |
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That is why your post and the O/P are so funny.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:22 PM
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27. You are easily amused. |
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I hope you enjoy watching Obama become the nominee.
I also hope the shrill Hillary supporters are as fervent in their support of the Democratic nominee as they were of their preferred candidate.
Btw - the thread was about DU and the feeding frenzy of the Hillary supporters, not the Hillary campaign. Maybe bone up on your reading comprehension.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:24 PM
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31. You made it about the Hillary campaign - so let's get that straight |
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You are a comedian!
:rofl:
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:27 PM
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34. Hillary supporters are in convulsions because the HILLARY CAMPAIGN is in the toilet. |
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:30 PM
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Who cares about the Hillary campaign? This thread is about Obama's latest issue.
...I applaud your attempt at whatever it is that you are attempting to accomplish here.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:20 PM
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25. I've seen many things break here only to bubble up in the MSM a little later. Btw, |
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It's not so much of it being a big story now, but how the repukes will use in, in conjunction with Michell's "not proud of America until..." ditty and Barack's not holding his hand over his heart for the National Anthem moment.
Dems can sweep this under the rug for now, but it will be back if Obama is the nom.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:28 PM
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36. I agree that the Republicans will use it. |
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And actually, as an Obama supporter I'm glad this is coming out now. It was going to come out sooner or later, and now is really the best time for him. I'd actually prefer that it not be swept under the and that it gets exposure in the media so it won't be as dramatic when the Republicans bring it up in the fall. It also gives the Obama campaign time to formulate an effective response.
And guess what -- it is getting exposure in the media. But nobody seems to care nearly as much as apparently everyone on this board does. So, it's a fairly major story, but not the story of the year like it appears to be here.
One more point. I don't get Fox News so I'm not sure how they're reacting, but I've seen people much happier about this story on DU than anywhere else. That's kind of disturbing to me.
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Fri Mar-14-08 12:09 AM
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52. CNN is leading with the Rev. story. |
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Fri Mar-14-08 12:21 AM
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55. Right. They're leading with it but only spending about 5 minutes |
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total on it. They're not hyping it nearly as much as other stories. Spitzer's still getting more coverage than this.
Plus, as Democrats, I'm glad that we can both be happy that this story is coming out now, after most primaries have ended and well before the general election. :toast:
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:23 PM
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28. The fact that she has already lost does not compute, ergo the faux mass delusional hysteria. |
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:43 PM
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44. They were all watching Faux Snooze on Tuesday night when Hannity started this rant. |
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Then it made it to CNN within 24 hours.
Drudge will be made the Minister of Information by June at this rate.
They can't even coordinate their own voting districts, but you can expect them to at least coordinate their attacks on these internet forums.
LoL
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:51 PM
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45. Actually, Drudge hasn't had anything on this story. |
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Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 11:52 PM by Walter Sobchak
(Yeah, I know I'm not supposed to go to that site, but I just can't help myself.)
Anyway, I've been wondering for a while why Drudge hasn't posted anything about Obama's minister.
Wouldn't it be funny if he was holding all this back until Obama got the nomination, but Hillary's campaign beat him to the punch?
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Fri Mar-14-08 12:04 AM
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there are many notable Republicans who are members of the same denomination? :D
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Fri Mar-14-08 12:10 AM
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53. Maybe, but I really don't think that would stop Drudge. |
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Plus, from what I know of the UCC, it's comparatively liberal for a large Christian organization. Maybe he just can't stand to let go of the whole Obama is a Muslim angle.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:54 PM
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46. a sort of demented synchronized swimming |
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Fri Mar-14-08 01:04 AM
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57. Hahahahaha! Post of the day! |
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:27 PM
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35. Save your congrats for the day after PA when Obama concedes to her |
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That's gonna be a tough one for you guys to handle. Yikes
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:32 PM
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38. What are you talking about? |
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Assuming he loses Pennsylvania, which he may not, he is going to concede even though he still has a big lead in pledge delegates and can expect to pick up even more delegates in states like North Carolina and Oregon? That's ridiculous.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:33 PM
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39. Well, it is pretty big. |
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It's all over the blogs and Youtube. ABC, Fox and CNN mentioned it today.
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Thu Mar-13-08 11:40 PM
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41. Exactly right. They mentioned it. |
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But compare the Spitzer coverage to this story. Compare the coverage of Hillary's mini-Tuesday "victory" to this story. Even Bill Clinton's Jesse Jackson remarks and Nevada caucus shenanigans got more coverage than this story.
I'm not saying that nobody will care that Barack Obama has some loony pastor. Obviously some people in the real world will care about it too. But I think its importance has been just a tad bit overstated on this site, especially when any Democrat who follows politics has known about Obama's nutty pastor for months. I just don't think this story warrants an entire forum-full of posts like it's getting here.
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Fri Mar-14-08 12:00 AM
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49. Hillbots are quoting Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity commentary as "evidence" |
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You wonder why Hillary endorsed McCain last week and these people are still following her like she' s a freakin' Democrat... then again, it's already been well documented that a lot of Hillary supporters aren't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer...
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Fri Mar-14-08 12:43 AM
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56. Uh no, you can order the tape right from the church website |
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Some of us may not be the sharpest knives in the drawer, even those of us with Ph.D's, but I bet none of us take our daughters to a church where the preacher makes sexual motions from the pulpit
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