Uh oh, I caught Hillary in a ....mistruth.

[johnnydrama]

"We all had a choice as to whether or not to participate in what was going to be a primary, and most people took their names off the ballot, but I didn't"

NPR interview today.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88165077

In August all the candidates signed a pledge to not "campaign or participate" in any state that violates the DNC rules.

So isn't she fudging the facts a lot by saying that Obama chose to not participate in Michigan by taking his name off the ballot, when she signed a pledge to not particpate as well.

[Birthmark]

1. You say that like it's an accomplishment. lol

[grantcart]

2. I predict a visit from a primate who will state for a fact that up is down

[Usrename]

5. ignorance is strength

;)

[meow mix]

3. we all "had a choice" not to participate

um i thought they all signed a pledge. shes a F*%kIN ahole CHEATER

[johnnydrama]

8. I honestly don't know

How you can "not participate" in a primary, and then want the results to count.

It boggles the mind really.

[Kool Kitty]

4. I believe Keith Oberman showed the document that she

signed on his show this evening.

[DJ13]

6. Were her lips moving?

:crazy:

[Spider Jerusalem]

7. Audio, Hew Hampshire Public Radio interview, here:

(Hillary asked 'why not take your name off the ballot', responds 'election won't count for anything')

http://www.jabberwonk.com/clinton_mi_byte.mp3

[Catherina]

9. Say it ain't so! n/t

[ossman]

10. Her previous excuse was that her paperwork was late, thats why she was the only one on in MI

[LordJFT]

19. I hadn't heard this before, do you have a link to that quote?

[rinsd]

20. A) She never filed paper work. B) 4 Democrats remained on the ballot.

Any other mysterious factoids you would like tho share?

[Stephanie]

11. Join the club.

[ossman]

12. k&r

[Lucinda]

13. So why didn't they all take their names off in Florida?

[rinsd]

21. FL law requires you drop out entirely. But you bring up the difference taken towards MI & FL

All of this makes sense thru the lense of Iowa.

The MI ballot move by Obama and others was pure suck up to Iowa.

After all look what happened post Iowa,

1st Obama has surrogates openly campaign for him and urge his supporters to vote undecided. They even ran radio ads.

2nd He seeks permission to run TV ads in FL as part of his national ad buy. He does so a week before the FL primary even though, no other candidate was running national ads, he still had a week left post FL to run a national campaign before Tsunami Tuesday.

Yet before the Iowa election, the pledge "required" as per his campaign interpretation his removal from even the ballot.

The lesson? The MI ballot removal was a political stunt that may have worked but to call it principled is laughable.

[Lucinda]

22. Yep. I also find all the gnashing of teeth and wailing pretty interesting, especailly

after I watched Debbie Dingle saying that Dean had told both states their delegates would be seated. Of course, that was before everyone realized that the numbers were going to matter.

It's been a screw-up of epic proportions from day one. I understand what Dean was trying to do, but it was very shortsided on his part, as well as on the part of those who withdrew in order to make bonus points with Iowa and try to make Hillary look bad for not removing her name.

It seems like an old Marx Brother's movie to me at times..

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

14. This is Hillary truly at her worst.

[Perry Logan]

15. Selected bibliography of anti-Clinton bullshit at DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4746049&mesg_id=4746049

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4774225&mesg_id=4774225

Pointed out:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4779500&mesg_id=4779500

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4849238&mesg_id=4849238

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4922044&mesg_id=4922044

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4942967&mesg_id=4942967

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4964704&mesg_id=4964704

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965088

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965227

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4982708&mesg_id=4982708

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5036756

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5065868&mesg_id=5065868

Reporting threats against Hillary:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4999545&mesg_id=4999545

[johnnydrama]

17. why is the truth

why is the truth anti Clinton?

Are those two mutually exclusive terms?

[chyjo]

16. Hillary does not use mistruths or lies

Those are sexist terms. She is just using "Creative Thinking"

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

18. Just one?

[bobthedrummer]

23. "Inconvenient truths about the New Democrats, the Third Way, Democratic Leadership Council, etc."

johnnydrama, this is a link to a must read active GD thread started a week ago today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2973191