So talk about a dumb ass post....

[cboy4]

"Hopefully, Hillary's Supporters Will go to Work for McCain"

Really?

Do Obama supporters seriously want Hillary Clinton supporters (primarily the ones who say they may not support Obama in the GE if he's the nominee), to go away?

I'm talking, specifically, leave the Democratic Party?

If seen many posts encouraging this should happen, or at the every least, insinuate this should happen.

Are the Obama supporters who post this in a drunken state of being when they write this, or do they really think the more Democrats they kick out of the party, the better chance Obama has of beating McCain?

Are the Hillary Clinton supporters who say they're not going to support Obama not worth saving? Is outreach out of the question or hopeless.

Obama is just going to run away with it without a unified party?

I think not.

[Exilednight]

1. They already do. Penn's firm also represents McCain.

[LaurenG]

2. I agree with you Cboy4

It's just silly really.

[Birthmark]

3. This is why I think neither Obama or Clinton can win

Their supporters have demonized each other so much that some percentage of Democrats won't vote for the Nominee no matter who wins.

[Arkansas Granny]

8. The demonization we've seen on this board is not reflected among most Democrats.

You can find poll figures that show one candidate polling higher than the other, but when you average several polls together you find that public opinion doesn't really favor one over the other by a wide margin. Check out this table from Real Clear Politics:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html

Most people are not as involved in the discussion as much as we here on DU are. Don't give up hope yet. :hi:

[EmilyAnne]

11. I agree. Its just really bad on this board. I have more faith in us. We can pull together and

support the chosen candidate.

[Birthmark]

14. I never thought Clinton could win

...but now that the "racism" complaining has started, I doubt Obama can win.

[Buzz Clik]

18. That is the point, you know. By poisoning the water with all the race baiting, ...

... Obama's task becomes nearly impossible.

"Hillary for President 2012". Look for it.

[Birthmark]

24. Possibly

But the bait need not have been taken.

[Buzz Clik]

28. Keep in mind that it wasn't Obama who initiated the response.

The media exploded over Ferraro's comments. Obama's reaction was measure and muted.

[Birthmark]

30. And that matters in the world of facts and fairness

But that's not the world we live in. The louder the reaction, the more press it will get, generally speaking. Those loud reactions probably will be assigned by the talking dogs of the media to "Camp Obama." That's the way they do things. Makes for good ratings if everyone on all sides is pissed off. Doesn't matter who is right, who is wrong, or what the facts are. They're selling viewers to advertisers. And there's nothing like anger to make people tune in to watch those ads, er, shows.

[Buzz Clik]

34. Exactly. A Clinton surrogate starts a bonfire, and the press grabs it.

The press throws gasoline on the fire by putting the microphone in front of Ferraro again and again and again. She responds loudly as the victim (not mentioning that it is the same people who are interviewing her who are "victimizing" her), and the press reports on their reporting.

It was gamed quite nicely by the Clinton campaign. Obama responded properly, and Ferraro quit the campaign to freelance her story.

This story will fade over the weekend, but it will be another Clinton-invoked story on Monday.

[Birthmark]

39. That's the way the game is played.

There's not much use in complaining about it. It can't be changed easily. Obama, I'm sure, knows better than me the ways of the American "journalist."

[Arkansas Granny]

19. The thing that really gives me hope is the record turnouts for Democrats

that have been seen during the primaries. I hope that enough people of them come through in the GE to give us a landslide over McCain.

[cboy4]

22. If people like Buzz Clik have their way, that won't

happen.

They're more interested in division, than unification.



edit...typo

[Buzz Clik]

29. You people can't take a breath without claiming yourselves to be victims.

Hillary Clinton by nearly all accounts has been running an appallingly vicious, destructive campaign against Obama. She is doing McCain's work for him by pronouncing McCain completely ready to be president and declaring Obama's inadequacy for the position. She has yet to throw a blow against McCain that even remotely resembles the filth that she launches daily at Obama. She is not only dragging down Obama (at her own expense), she is dragging down the entire party.

Yes, Hillary and her followers are victims -- victims of their own stupidity. Sorry, but I offer no apologies for your foolishness.

[cboy4]

33. Uh huh, and "you people" are angels.

It's entirely the Clinton camp's fault for the divisiveness, ha.

And what do you care about dragging down the party?

You seem hardly concerned.

[Buzz Clik]

Christ. Now you're pouting.

Go to your room, cry for while, get control of yourself, and come back. :eyes:

[Birthmark]

25. Entirely possible

But here's the thing: If enough candidate X supporters won't support candidate Y, or vice versa, then one place it seems likely to show up is in GOTV in November. A significant portion of Hillary's and Barack's supporters genuinely seem to have animosity...more than I've seen at any time since Carter/Kennedy. That didn't work out so well.

[Arkansas Granny]

26. I think we see more of that on this board and others where people are really

involved in discussing the campaigns. I don't think that animosity is prevalent in the real world. Most people don't get that worked up over the primaries.

[Birthmark]

27. It doesn't have to be prevalent in the real world, though

It just has to exist to a meaningful extent within the important groups that usually volunteer and do the hard work on a local level. I think that the animosity is much more common among that group than in the real world generally. Whether it is prevalent enough among that group to ensure a President McCain is the real question. I have no idea if it is or isn't, though. And that's what bothers me at this point.

[elocs]

4. Let's at least be honest here: that door swings both ways.

I have read enough posts by Clinton supporters who claim they will never vote for Obama. Six of one, half a dozen of another. Same difference.

[cboy4]

6. That's not my point. I know that there are people on both

sides who claim they won't vote for the other candidate.

I'm talking about the people saying if you don't vote for the nominee, you should just leave the party.

And I see more Obama supporters saying this than I do Hillary supporters.

So yea, let's be honest.

[ThatBozGuy]

9. And this comes fom their leadership. Ms Clinton has shown an affinity to Mr McCain.....

Since her supporters, at least the zealous ones, have said they will follow her to the ends of the earth or more precisely will do "whatever it takes" to support her, it can be assumed they will also make that choice as Ms Clinton has.

You are not seeing Mr Obama's supporters create that meme out of thin air, the reason you are seeing more of Mr Obamas supporters pointing that out is they have already observed that behavior manifest in Ms Clinton and her die hard anti democrat if its Obama supporters.

Thee has been none of the Mr McCain is better behavior in Mr Obama or his supporters.

[thevoiceofreason]

20. Honestly, I see equal numbers of both

And I attribute 98% to trolls.

[Buzz Clik]

5. Our hope is the Hillary and her crew will QUIT working for McCain.

That sentiment is not exactly limited to DU:

[cboy4]

7. Thanks for making my point. And it's irrelevant whether

it's limited to DU.

It's asinine wherever.

[ThatBozGuy]

10. MS Clinton leads by example, it may not be comfortable, as her supporter, to have it demonstrated

Since her supporters, at least the zealous ones, have said they will follow her to the ends of the earth or more precisely will do "whatever it takes" to support her, it can be assumed they will also make that choice as Ms Clinton has.

You are not seeing Mr Obama's supporters create that meme out of thin air, the reason you are seeing more of Mr Obamas supporters pointing that out is they have already observed that behavior manifest in Ms Clinton and her die hard anti democrat if its Obama supporters.

Thee has been none of the Mr McCain is better behavior in Mr Obama or his supporters.

[cboy4]

12. .....

:spray:


You're kidding, right?

[Buzz Clik]

16. No, he's not kidding. Care to give us an example where Obama compared Hillary to McCain?

Link?

[Buzz Clik]

15. I made your point? How convenient for you. Keep working on your writing.

Perhaps someday you can make your own points.

[cboy4]

21. You're not even really sure what my point is....right

Buzz Clik?

So the only alternative in your mind was to think of something sarcastic to write.

Well sarcasm will not help your candidate win the presidency.

No indeed.

[Buzz Clik]

32. I don't have to help Obama win the presidency. Have you looked at the delegate count?

Have you looked at the recent polls?

I am so very sorry that Obama has not embraced your one and only political cause. Life goes like that.

[cboy4]

35. Yea, that delegate count is going to come in really handy

in November when delegate counts don't mean shit.

[Buzz Clik]

36. But you'll be right there campaigning for him, right?

yeah, I thought so.

[cboy4]

37. Why do I need to campaign for him? According to you,

he has the delegates to win the presidency. lol

[rodeodance]

23. Regarding your cartoon. Will BO take Wright off his AA Leadership Council??

[Buzz Clik]

31. "Regarding my cartoon..." What the hell does Wright have to do with that cartoon?

Nice try, rodeodance. Keep throwing the shit against the wall. Some day, you may have as much shit on the wall as you have on yourself.

[rodeodance]

13. You are right. Threads like that are silly flamebaits and should be locked.

[Buzz Clik]

17. I agree. Anyone who posts nonsensical bullshit day after day should have their threads locked.

[SeaLyons]

38. I agree...

and if it keeps on like it's going, we are going to lose the WH. Obama and Clinton supporters better get focused on the issues, take a serious look at all the red flags, and decide who is truly electable.