Where is Olbermann's piece on Reverend Wright??

[nickn777]

Devoted ZERO minutes to it on Countdown last night.

This is coming from someone that always preferred Obama over Hillary. Olbermann needs to be fair, these questions need to be answered and we need to know how Obama is acting to distance himself from this shitstorm.

[MadBadger]

1. Nobody on MSNBC talked about Wright yesterday...Maybe you'll see something today.

[Hissyspit]

6. It was all over Morning Joe today. I thought most of the stuff they said was stupid

and inflammatory.

[MadBadger]

11. Its uncomfortable for me to watch a panel full of white people criticize Rev. Wright

specifically for what he said about Hillary not knowing what its like to black.

[Captain Hilts]

12. It's uncomfortable for me to watch a panel of men: KO, Matthews, Russert, etc. talk about Clinton.nt

[rodeodance]

21. nicely said

[SeaLyons]

22. Amen!!

They have had no problem slapping Hillary around every single day..

Hardball, Countdown - they are not the news. They are ratings whores, giving out their lame opinions. It's a shame the amount of influence they have had in this campaign.

[Captain Hilts]

28. Calling her "Madam DeFarge," "Nurse Ratched," etc. What if he called Obama "Steppin' Fetch it?" nt

[greyghost]

46. Alrighty then! Great question.

[roguevalley]

98. I hope if he does talk about Wright, whom Obama's repudiated

he will discuss Hillary's affiliation with The Fellowship and their expressly stated desire to theocratize the world. Rather a blithering fool who is public than a spidery hate group that isn't. Rather a blithering dolt that has no power beyond his small circle than a shadowy group that has power now and is working to get more. Personally, since no one has clean hands on this, it would be a good topic to drop.

[rucky]

14. It'll be everywhere today. And KO will have to cover it.

He just will.

[high density]

29. Wrong. Abrams talked about it after Countdown

and thought it was similar to the Ferarro uproar.

[Cass]

36. Dan Abrams did a segment on it last night.

As did Anderson Cooper on CNN and, of course, FOX is all over it.

[truebrit71]

2. Rev Wright works for and speaks for the Obama campaign? I must have missed that....

...:eyes:

[Yossariant]

5. Obamatoons "miss" a lot or pretend that they do, eh:

"PRESS RELEASE from Obama for America
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Dec. 4, 2007

Renowned Faith Leaders Come Together to Support Obama

Unprecedented group of nation’s top Black religious leaders unveiled

CHARLESTON, S.C. –U.S. Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign today unveiled its African American Religious Leadership Committee at both the national and statewide levels. Together, they represent two groups of key national and South Carolina religious leaders who are supporting Obama’s bid for the Democratic nomination..."

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/obama/obama120407pr.html

[ruggerson]

15. yes, you apparently did miss it

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/obama/obama120407pr.html

[truebrit71]

55. He's part of the official campaign structure? Really?

:eyes:

[barb162]

72. Wright is on Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee

An official part of Obama's unity message, which aint gonna sell to white people too well.

[LaurenG]

3. Why is Senator Obama responsible for anything his pastor has said?

Shall we make you responsible for all of you pastors words. Silly huh.

[Justyce]

13. He's not just his pastor. He's part of the campaign.

He's on Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee.

[barb162]

60. YES HE IS!!!

good point and thank you.

[barb162]

61. Yeah, part of that Obama's "unity" message

Hilarious, isn't it?

[Cass]

18. He is involved in the Obama campaign in much the same way Ferraro was in Clinton's.

That's why. Was Hillary responsible for Ferraro's remarks? Ferraro's comments caused an uproar and she resigned because of them. Why should Wright enjoy a different standard than Ferraro did? His words are every bit as offensive and incendiary as hers and he sits on a campaign committee as she did. Why the double standard?

[Sinistrous]

32. There's no double standard here.

Wright is giving voice to uncomfortable truths. Ferraro was spouting venomous bullshit.

Sinistrous

[Cass]

34. Both sets of comments were racially charged and offensive to people.

Your post is a clear demonstration of the double standard that is employed by Obama supporters.

[Sinistrous]

38. The difference being:

An offensive truth vs. an offensive falsehood.

No double standard. Rather a reverence for truth.

Sinistrous

[Cass]

48. Whites deliberately infected black people with AIDS, the gov't gives out drugs to black people...

that's offensive, nutty and racially divisive commentary.

Minimizing the sexism that Hillary and women in general have encountered is also pretty offensive. She may not have been called a n****r but she has been called plenty of other vile names.

Wright's comments are every bit as inflammatory and incendiary as Ferraro's comments.

[susankh4]

65. There is little, if any difference....

they are both responsible for spewing ugly truths.

They are both unpaid members of the respective campaigns.

The only difference is... Geraldine was called on what she said. And she is gone.

[stillcool]

49. You are right...This committee...

needs to give a Press Conference.

Renowned Faith Leaders Come Together to Support Obama

Unprecedented group of nation’s top Black religious leaders unveiled

CHARLESTON, S.C. –U.S. Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign today unveiled its African American Religious Leadership Committee at both the national and statewide levels. Together, they represent two groups of key national and South Carolina religious leaders who are supporting Obama’s bid for the Democratic nomination.

Contact: Kevin Griffis Amaya Smith


SOUTH CAROLINA
Rev. A.C. Robinson Pleasant Grove Baptist Church
Rev. A.R. Kollock Greater Target Church
Rev. Aaron Bishop Grace Church
Rev. Adrian McIlwain Cornerstone Baptist Church
Rev. Alanza Washington Wallingford Presbyterian Church
Rev. Alfred Jefferson Garden of Prayer Church
Rev. Allen Robinson Mt. Pleasant Missionary Baptist Church
Rev. Alvin Murdock Christ Deliverance Church
Rev. Andrew Jordan Biggers A.M.E. Church
Rev. Angelin Simmons Johns Island Parish
Rev. Anna Miller St. James United Methodist Church
Rev. Anthony Campbell Folly Road Church of Christ
Rev. Anthony McCallum Bethlehem Baptist Church
Rev. Audrey Deas St. Paul's Presbyterian Church
Rev. Benjamin Graham Mt. Zion United Methodist Church
Rev. Bernard Brown Jerusalem A.M.E. Church
Rev. Bertha Jean Burroughs Gospel Tabernacle Church
Rev. Bill Stringfellow (ret.) Cornerstone Baptist Church
Rev. Michael Blue Door of Hope Church
Rev. Boykin Jordan Living Word Baptist Church
Rev. Brown St. Beulah Baptist Church
Rev. Caesar Richburg Williams Chapel A.M.E. Church
Rev. Charles B. Jackson, Jr. New Laurel Street Baptist
Rev. Charles Heyward St. James Presbyterian Church
Rev. Charles Pee Friendship Baptist Church
Rev. Charlie Howard (ret.) Mt. Pleasant A.M.E. Church
Rev. Clifford Gaymon Zion Hill Baptist Church
Rev. Clifford Levine Bethel A.M.E. Church
Pastor Corey J. Williams Giants 4 Christ Ministries
Rev. Daniel McCowan Maxwell Baptist Church
Rev. Deleon McRae Mt. Tema Missionary Baptist Church
Pastor Donald Goodwine St. Paul's Baptist Church
Rev. Donna Jacobs Insight Ministries
Rev. Doris Haynes Faithworks International
Rev. Drusilla Harvin Trinity A.M.E. Church
Rev. Ed McClain Calvary A.M.E. Church
Rev. Elaine Harvey Gethsemane Baptist Church
Bishop Finas Bush Crown Christian Center
Rev. Frankie Thomas Manning Baptist Church
Rev. Freda Bonner St.Paul MBC
Rev. Freddie Thomas Mt. Bethel Baptist Church
Rev. Garfield Capers God's Heart Ministries
Rev. George West Royal Baptist
Rev. George Windley Ebenezer Baptist
Assoc. Pastor Gollie Walker Ebenzer Baptist
Bishop Harold Sawyer Greater Zion Tabernacle
Dr. Harris Church Macedonia Missionary Baptist
Rev. Hayes Gainey Edisto Fork United Methodist
Rev. Henry Badie Pentecostal Temple
Rev. Henry Cook Friendship Baptist
Rev. Henry McGill, Jr. Mt. Pisgah Baptist
Pastor Herbert Harvey Gethsemane Baptist
Rev. Jack Peterson New Bethlehem Baptist
Rev. Jacqueline Aiken New Life Mansion
Rev. James Abraham Bethlehem Baptist
Rev. James Elbert Williams Mt. Beulah/New Hope U.M.C.
Rev. James Holiday Bushy Pond Baptist
Rev. James J. Robinson (ret.) Bethel Grove A.M.E.
Rev. James Lane Canaan/Sand Hill
Rev. Jarvis Brown Agape Christian Outreach Ministries
Rev. Jeanette Cooper-Dicks Cumberland United Methodist
Rev. Jerry Corbett Pee Dee Union Baptist
Rev. Jerry Edwards Tabernacle Baptist
Rev. John Berry New Jerusalem MBC
Rev. John Davis Berea Association
Rev. John Elliott Shady Grove United Methodist
Pastor John Smalls Greater Friendship A.M.E.
Minister Johnny Jenkins Maxwell-Pamlico Baptist
Rev. Joseph Mason Glover's Chapel
Rev. Joseph Williams, Jr. Mt. Nebo Baptist
Assoc. Pastor Josephine Richardson Payne RMUE
Rev. Julius Barnes St. Luke
Rev. Julius McDowell Wesley UMC
Rev. Kay Colleton Manna Life Center
Rev. Keith Hunter Wesley United Methodist
Rev. Kenneth Doe St. Joseph's Baptist
Rev. Larry Fowler Mt. Sinai Baptist
Rev. Leo Woodbury Bethlehem A.M.E.
Rev. Leon Winn Rock Hill Missionary Baptist
Rev. Leonard Huggins New Covenant United Methodist
Rev. Leroy Cannon New Bethel
Rev. Lewis Duckett Shiloh Baptist
Rev. Lonnie Jones Millway Baptist
Rev. Lowman L. Jamison Antioch Baptist (ret.)
Rev. Marvin Kelty Centerville Baptist
Rev. Matthew Furness Poplar A.M.E. Church
Rev. Michael Barr Snow Hill Baptist
Rev. Michael Peppers Fairfield Baptist Church
Rev. Minnie Chapman Pee Dee Union Baptist
Pastor Monroe Bush, Jr. Smyrna Baptist
Rev. Norman Gamble New Ebenezer Baptist
Rev. Norman Jenkins Grays Hill
Assoc. Pastor Norman Kithcart Living Word Baptist
Rev. Norman Pearson First Baptist
Rev. Odonald Dingle Shiloh Missionary Baptist
Rev. Otis Scott, Jr. Camden First U.M.C.
Rev. Ralph Canty Savannah Grove Baptist
Rev. Randolph Scipio Bula Land
Rev. Reggie McLeod, Sr. Kay Branch
Rev. Rev. Graves Mill Branch A.M.E.
Rev. Rickey Syndab Morris Chapel
Rev. Robert Capers Salem & Bethel Presbyterian
Rev. Robert Deas Lovely Hill Baptist
Rev. Robert Dennis Cedar Grove
Rev. Robin Dease Wesley United Methodist
Rev. Rodney James Mt. Hermon Baptist
Rev. Sam Whack, Jr. Chaney Grove Baptist
Rev. Samuel Burgess St. Stephen's Baptist
Rev. Sandra Harrison Macedonia Baptist
Rev. Sandra Muldrow New Ebenezer Baptist
Rev. Sean Dogan Long Branch Baptist
Rev. Steven Singleton Mother Emanuel
Pastor Telley Gadson St. Mark's United Methodist
Rev. Thomas Sims Mt. Zion United Methodist
Minister Verneda Temoney Savannah Grove Baptist
Rev. Victor Wilson United A.M.E.
Rev. Virgil Johnson New Revelations
Rev. Waymen Coleman Flat Rock A.M.E. Church
Rev. William Pee Pleasant Grove Baptist
Rev. William Swinton Ebenezer A.M.E.
Rev. William Thompson Mt. Claire Baptist
Rev. Willie Dennis Union Baptist
Rev. Willie Fant Miracle COGIC
Pastor Winnifa Clark Shephard's Outreach
Rev. Winston Olithant

[truebrit71]

57. Because a religious committee has a slightly different function than a FINANCE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN...

...no?

[barb162]

62. He's still part of Obama's campaign team. Where's the outrage

against this man's racist and hate-filled message?

[Cass]

70. Oh come on. Wright is involved with the Obama campaign.

No amount of hair-splitting from you will change that fact.

[truebrit71]

81. Oh please....what a joke....Finance committee = religious group....in what world?

They're not even in the same universe...

[Cass]

90. What difference does it make if its a religious committee or if its a finance committee?

Either one equals being involved in the campaign. The twisted logic employed to excuse this is astounding. Ferraro resigned and rightly so, but we're expected to give a pass to Wright because of the kind of committee he is on? Give me a break.

[Dawgs]

4. Why would he?

Does Wright speak for Obama's campaign?

[Vinca]

7. I must be one strange white woman - I don't find the pastor all that

offensive. Just heard the tape of him saying "Hillary ain't ever been called a nigger." Well . . . that's true . . . isn't it? He says "God Damn America." Sounds horrible until you think of the burned, dismembered and dead we're responsible for in a WAR OF CHOICE. I can't presume to understand what it's like to be a black person and know someone in my past was a slave or was lynched or was dragged behind a car to their death. Blacks in this country have every right to their outrage.

[Hissyspit]

10. You're not strange at all. Lots the pastor said made plenty of sense.

Not all of it, but most of it.

[Omega3]

43. and we invented AIDS as a plague for blacks, get a clue

[Yossariant]

8. The issue does not fit Olbermann's agenda.

[rox63]

9. Wright was not speaking on behalf of Obama's campaign

Ferraro was. There sure are a lot of "concerned" posters with low post counts today.

[nickn777]

16. Um.....this man married him, baptised his kids....

was his spirtual mentor for 20 years. Obama stood in this church for two decades and listened to this crap and didn't have the good sense to just walk away from it? Why??

[my3boyz]

27. So that means he agrees with everything the man says? You are sick! Or maybe desperate!

You can spin all you want and BILLARY still will not win! Pathetic!

[high density]

30. I attended Catholic Church for two decades

But that doesn't mean I enjoyed it when the anti-abortion idiots came into town and used the church congregation as a political tool.

[ruggerson]

17. Ferraro was giving a paid speech unrelated to the campaign

Both Ferraro and Wright serve on committees in the respective campaigns.

What's difficult to get about this?

[earthside]

44. Clinton(s) Staff and Volunteers

Yup. They are showing up in droves this morning to try and spin the Wright controversy as even more outrageous than the Ferraro dust-up.

Who doesn't believe that the Clinton(s) campaign isn't behind the sudden concern over Rev. Wright?

But it is another blunder for Shrillary. The nomination is now worthless to her ... placing African-Americans in a position to defend the black church means that if she steals away this nomination now from Obama, the most reliable Democratic voters since the 1930s are going to stay home. And if that happens, the Democrats will also lose both houses of Congress.

The upside for Obama is that this being made an issue so early before the general election will make it much less potent for Repugs to use against Barack. So, in the end, Obama will be fine, but Shrillary has screwed her party again for what looks like only a momentary advantage.

[susankh4]

67. No. Neither were speaking on behalf of their campaigns....

pay attention!

[SeaLyons]

19. Oh, you noticed that too????

It's pretty incredible. Not a damn word from KO about Reverend Wright.

KO is not Edward R. Murrow folks. He's been so incredibly bias for Obama, his pride would not allow him to speak any truth that would be a negative for his guy. He's made it clear to all. Obama for President!!!! Don't ask questions.....don't debate his qualifications, don't investigate any negatives...just shutup and get him the nomination.

Scarey stuff!!!

[wrando]

20. Olbermanns integrity

Olbermann claims to be neutral in the dem primary

he can't even be honest about that

too many hysterical stories that amount to nothing

a con man from the left, which I suppose is a change, if change is what you're looking for

unwatchable

Bill from ct

[Dinger]

23. Olbermann, Like Some Here, Doesn't Try Or Care Anymore

Nice having someone like that as a "journalist," hey?
I always loved Keith, and still like him for SOME reasons, but if Obama's supporters would stop and think for a minute how they would feel if the shoe were on the other foot, would they still think it was "cool"?

[rodeodance]

24. the story just broke yesterday last eveining. It will be interesting to see what KO says about it.

[nickn777]

26. No it didn't....it broke in the morning. n/t

[rodeodance]

31. what ever. ---as i said---it will be interesing if or how he covers it.

[Cass]

25. Olbermann has made his bias well known in the race so if he did one it would likely be a softball

piece making excuses for it. I seriously doubt he would do a special commentary raking Obama over the coals for it like he did with the Clinton/Ferraro thing..

[MikeNearMcChord]

35. Funny when John Edwards was in, it looked like

KO was pro Hillary back then, or at least to those who supported JE. Perception is reality for some. Hell Hillary supporters if you are so PO'd at Keith, there is always Billo and Fox, I'm sure they can do some anti-Obama Hate to satisfy your fill, one bright spot for all of you I guess the new Governor of New York will probably be a superdelegate for Hillary.

[Cass]

41. I was a Biden supporter then and thought he was fairly neutral at the time.

I remember being upset that, in general, Biden got a fraction of the coverage that Hillary and Obama received. Same with Edwards - he got short-changed in coverage, too. I find the media bias for and against particular candidates incredibly frustrating and damaging. The media wanted this showdown between Hillary and Barack; they got it and we will suffer for it.

Anyway, Keith is definitely not neutral now. I thought he would have remained unbiased in his coverage throughout the primaries but that's not the case.

[barb162]

59. Hey if Olbermann is so disgusted with racism , let him show it with this story

[GalleryGod]

53. The "Clinton/Ferraro thing" how sweet and diminutive (lol)

Gerry's gone ..too bad Frank Rizzo's DEAD

They could run around Pa. shouting "Vote White!"
Bittter,Elderly, White Woman...

[Cass]

75. Bittter,Elderly, White Woman...

You know what you can do with that remark? Shove it, pal.

[Life Long Dem]

33. What's fair is not having some sore loser beat up on their own parties candidate

When this campaign started, I didn't hate Hillary or Bill. That is changing FAST!.

[Iceburg]

37. He's working on how to spin it just right ... looking for a pony in the pile of shit

If he does speak out, it will be Hillary's fault.

[fbuzz]

39. Keth, Fair? Uh, no.

Now reality.

[GalleryGod]

51. How's things over @ HillaryIS44? Here, stare at this.....

Sarah!

[Brundle_Fly]

40. Maybe he doesn't take his talking points

from Faux.

[nickn777]

42. Oh for Christ's sake, give me a fucking break....

FOX? You really think that this is limited to Fox?

This is all over every news site, political site, youtube, radio talk shows, etc.....

[ProSense]

45. Why should he do a piece on Wright?

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation.

link

Is there anything wrong in what he said?

What did America do in her moment of "indignation" over the attacks (horrible and tragic as they were)?

America invaded a country that had nothing to do with the attacks, destroyed it and facilitated the killing of more than a million people!

[nickn777]

47. Um...yeah there is something wrong with it!

Blaming America for 9/11 is absurd. Most of us progressive thinkers that vote Democrat do NOT agree with this crap. Government giving out drugs, responsible for AIDS, c'mon!

[mtnsnake]

54. So you don't think the TIMING of his remark about 9/11 was wrong?????

You think it's perfectly OK...one frigging week after the Towers came down and 3000 innocent Americans were killed...for him to blame the United States???

While Pastor Wright said lots of things that are probably true, so have lots of other people...but one week after 9/11 was NOT the time for him to say what he said.

[ProSense]

68. So now you're simply questioning the timing? n/t

[mtnsnake]

77. Nice ploy...avoiding answering the question by asking another question instead

Figures!

[barb162]

63. If you see nothing wrong with this message, you have a problem

Japan declared war on the US and then bombed the US. What should America have done? Not tried to win the war? Let them bomb California? Let them bomb Oregon? America deserved 9-11? What did America do to bin LAden other than help him fight against the Russians in Afghanistan?

[ProSense]

66. So did Vietnam and Iraq! No, you have a problem! n/t

[mtnsnake]

79. If you think it's OK that Wright said this ONE WEEK AFTER 3000 INNOCENT AMERICANS DIED

then it is YOU who has some serious issues, not barb162.

The timing of his remark about 9/11 says everything about this that we need to know.

[GalleryGod]

50. Jeez your 85th post is this !? You definitely need more...

SILVERMAN in your life !


You go, Sarah!

[IndianaJones]

52. I think Olbermanns entire audience posts here....all 200. nt.

[Texas Hill Country]

56. HAHAHAHAHAHA no kidding.

[barb162]

58. If he doesn't do as strong a condemnation of this as he did Ferraro

the other day, I am not watching Olbermann anymore. And he better do it tonight because this story came out yesterday. I want to see him doing a big sneer of Wright and Obama like he did against Hillary and Ferraro.

[eissa]

64. Maybe he doesn't want to take part

in the swift boating of yet another dem candidate? Or he's had it (like most of us) with people trying desperately to make this election about race and not about the issues?

[susankh4]

69. Maybe he shouldn't have taken part in the swiftboating of the

first one? Now he has a precedent to live up to.

[busymom]

71. Now, now...

Criticizing Obama and his church is racist. Don't you know that?

[HughMoran]

73. I was kind of wondering if he would cover this

I haven't been watching him lately because I find he's a little over-the-top in his attacks on Hillary, so I was kind of wondering if he would show his "neutrality" again by covering this story - at least a little bit. We'll see...

[totodeinhere]

74. No, KO doesn't need to be fair.

He is not doing a straight news program. He is doing commentary. He has the right to choose what topics he wants to discuss and which ones he doesn't want to discuss. And he has the right to give his own opinions. And BTW, this story about Wright was not mentioned on a lot of other programs as well. This tells me that many in the news and commentary business don't think that the story has legs. It has created a big furor among Clinton supporters at DU, but it has created hardly a ripple elsewhere.

[grrr050]

82. STOP DREAMING!!!!!!!!

[bridgit]

76. KO didn't drink the kool aid, he drunk the sand; his ego is now too large...

to even attempt to gak it back out at this point :puke:

[Kool Kitty]

78. I think Obama is distancing himself from this shit storm.

He said he doesn't agree with it. Why not spend some time attacking McCain, who is the real enemy in this race, about the religious leaders that have been endorsing him? I think you would find them frightening, too. They scare me. I don't hear the media asking him for any denunciations about Hagee, Parsley, etc.

[nickn777]

91. Olberman DID expose McCain's spirtual advisor last night....

Parsley though, not Hagee. The crap that Hagee spews is as bad as Wright.

[Kool Kitty]

101. You're right.

But why aren't they going after McCain, is my question.

[jenmito]

80. Olbermann preferred HILLARY until she started playing the fear card. And you're comparing

apples and oranges. A Rev. doing his thing (regardless how controversial it is) is totally different from a supporter belittling her competitor and then lying about him. Not only did Obama say he strongly disagrees with Wright's words, he's done it over and over again. Do you really think Rev. Wright speaks for Obama? Ferraro has been just one of many "surrogates" to play the race card. There's a pattern of this happening which Keith (like many of us) clearly noticed. There's no pattern of Obama surrogates saying negative things about Hillary's gender.

[mtnsnake]

83. Now THAT is funny!

[jenmito]

88. Your comment means nothing.

[sudopod]

84. Get back to us when the good Rev. is on Fox News sayiing

Senator Clinton is only where she is because she's white.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

85. HAH! don't hold your breath Kieth is comfortable in his warm & cozy place up Obama ass

[backscatter712]

86. Wright's not epic enough for a Special Comment.

At worst, he might get a bronze for Worst Person In The World!!!

But really, Wright's comments are old news - the media's got better things to look at, like Paris' latest boob job.

So, Clintonite's how's Blackwater Penn? You wanna play guilt by association? We can play too!!!

[sfam]

87. If he was going to give one, it would have happened either in 2003 or last year some time depending

on which speech you're referring to. Are you suggesting he should do a commentary on this now because it was dredged up yet again? Is this really news, or just a greatest hits replay of previous attacks? You know the guy didn't say these things last Sunday, right?

[Moochy]

89. WHERE'S MY FAVORITE SMEAR??

UNFAIR !! OLBERMANN DIDNT CARRY MY FILTH COVERED CANDIDATES LATEST SMEAR!! ZOMG.

So sick of you losers.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

92. No doubt KO would condemn what the Rev said and Obama IF he endorsed some of his more radical views.

[nickn777]

94. But that's the issue...he stood in this church and listened to this...

for 2 decades....people want to know why he never walked away from it if he strongly disagreed with it so much...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

97. That's not an endorsement.

[elixir]

93. k

[LisaM]

95. I watched for a couple of minutes last night

He was all over McCain's spiritual advisors, or whatever you want to call them, and NOTHING about Wright. I don't know if he did anything on McClurkin, either.

I wish all the candidates would distance themselves from any church. There are a lot of divisive churches in this country right now, and they have no business in the political arena.

[jenmito]

96. Why? Is the Obama camp constantly sending out surrogates to slam Hillary on her gender?

[apocalypsehow]

99. Uh-huh.

:eyes:

[mod mom]

100. OLBERMANN DIDN'T CARRY ANYTHING ABOUT HILLARY'S TIES TO "THE FELLOWSHIP" EITHER:

Hillary's Prayer: Hillary Clinton's Religion and Politics

NEWS: For 15 years, Hillary Clinton has been part of a secretive religious group that seeks to bring Jesus back to Capitol Hill. Is she triangulating—or living her faith?

By Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet
Illustration by: Andy Friedman
September 1, 2007



It was an elegant example of the Clinton style, a rhetorical maneuver subtle, bold, and banal all at once. During a Democratic candidate forum in June, hosted by the liberal evangelical group Sojourners, Hillary Clinton fielded a softball query about Bill's infidelity: How had her faith gotten her through the Lewinsky scandal?

After a glancing shot at Republican "pharisees," Clinton explained that, of course, her "very serious" grounding in faith had helped her weather the affair. But she had also relied on the "extended faith family" that came to her aid, "people whom I knew who were literally praying for me in prayer chains, who were prayer warriors for me."

Such references to spiritual warfare—prayer as battle against Satan, evil, and sin—might seem like heavy evangelical rhetoric for the senator from New York, but they went over well with the Sojourners audience, as did her call to "inject faith into policy." It was language that recalled Clinton's Jesus moment a year earlier, when she'd summoned the Bible to decry a Republican anti-immigrant initiative that she said would "criminalize the good Samaritan...and even Jesus himself." Liberal Christians crowed ("Hillary Clinton Shows the Way Democrats Can Use the Bible," declared a blogger at TPMCafe) while conservative pundits cried foul, accusing Clinton of scoring points with a faith not really her own.

-snip

Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection. "A lot of evangelicals would see that as just cynical exploitation," says the Reverend Rob Schenck, a former leader of the militant anti-abortion group Operation Rescue who now ministers to decision makers in Washington. "I don't....there is a real good that is infected in people when they are around Jesus talk, and open Bibles, and prayer.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html