Just rename this forum "Obama for President"

[Lannigan]

Because that's pretty much the only thing being discussed. I know that other Hillary supporters, like me, are sick of reading about it.

Congratulations on contributing to the fracture of the party. You all want to point fingers a "us," but the divisiveness I'm seeing is all coming from the Obama camp, including the name calling and personal attacks on posters. I had someone tell me the other day that a "math entrance exam" must not be a requirement for DU when giving my OPINION that this race is still close (and I maintain that it STILL IS). I see hateful, terrible, awful things said to and about other Clinton supporters (Ferraro is a heifer? She's an "old cunt?" GIVE ME A BREAK - and then you all have the nerve to say sexism is NOT a factor in this race? IT'S A FACTOR IN EVERY DAY LIFE FOR EVERY WOMAN AROUND THE WORLD) every day. Disgusting that fellow Dems are talking to each other this way.

[against all enemies]

1. After the convention I hope they do.

[onehandle]

2. Xenu would not be pleased by that. nt

[babylonsister]

3. Why don't you post something positive about your candidate?

You're part of the problem. Stop your kvetching and try to sell us on her. :shrug:

[reflection]

22. Boy isn't that the truth.

The signal-to-noise ratio is remarkably low around here. Let's have some positive uplifting pieces on HRC from people who are invested in her. However real or imagined the sexist climate, it's been discussed ad nauseum and I find myself skipping some of those threads, looking for new ideas.

[Lannigan]

48. I've admired Hillary since...

...Bill was running for President. Back then I was a fresh out of the closet, 22 y.o. little front woman in a band outside of NYC. After moving up there from rural PA, I was just getting my eyes opened to how the world really was.

She got into the White House and acted like no First Lady I had ever seen. Confident, super smart, outspoken and driven. She didn't do the 'traditional' FL stuff, but took a road less traveled, and was really despised for it. I admit that she bit off more than she could chew, but she TRIED to do something revolutionary and forward-thinking (because I don't have to tell anyone what kind of shitty state health care is in, and my family is living it right now). I remember wishing she were the President instead of him.

Then when she started her own political career, I was behind her 100%. If I had lived in NY at the time, I would've welcomed her with open arms and been an ardent supporter. I understand why she's done some of the 'stupid' things she's done as Senator (voted for the war, flip flopped on the DL issue, etc), and still strongly feel she'd be a great President. I think if she were, she'd change the minds of some of the people that hate her. She's been planning for this moment her whole life, and I still believe in her.

And THAT is my uplifting Hillary supporter, told from a totally biased viewpoint, of course!

[reflection]

63. Now that's good stuff!

Thanks for taking the time to share it. :toast:

[reflection]

84. And another thing...

As for the "bit off more than she could chew" comment, that is one of the things I admire about HRC. She doesn't shy away from a task. I don't (currently) support her, but from what I've heard from her constituents, she can be a great representative if you need something done. Her initial failed foray into universal health care was still admirable.

[ensho]

87. kick

nt

[Lannigan]

91. A really stupid question from a newbie

I have never been able to figure out what NT means...would you tell me? Thanks!

[grantcart]

94. It means : no text - so that people don't have to go beyond the subject line

Go 'bama

[rodeodance]

69. As you know--several of have---but Obamafolk come on dump on them also.

[Alter Ego]

4. Tell the creator of Hillaryis44 I said hi!

Quit the faux "victim" crap. You people are just as vicious. Take a look at some of the lovely barbs Obama people have taken.

[Coexist]

5. oh, please, I had to go through this a.m. and hide about 20 threads

NOW, it looks much nicer!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

101. Starting to do the same thing (first time).

[Coexist]

109. it makes it easier to deal, no?!

[Kittycat]

6. 90% of this board supports Obama. We all see HRC for what she really is.

So what's your point?

Give it up. I'm a woman, and I'm sick of HRC playing the Victim. It doesn't bode well for women when all she can do is whine and scream and cry. She makes us look weak, like the only way we're going to get anywhere is by playing underhanded games and throwing a fit when we don't get our way. I worked for years as the only woman on a large team of men. I had to work my ass off day in - day out. If I would have pulled one little tenth of a stunt like she is and has been pulling, I would have had the rug yanked out from under me in a heartbeat. So give it a rest already.

I'm all for having a woman in the white house - I just want the RIGHT WOMAN. Not a petty, whining brat!

[boobooday]

36. You make an excellent point

I also feel that she is not representative of the many capable, kick-ass women who could be running for the Democratic nomination for president.

As a woman who worked my way out of welfare into graduate school with no connections and no advantages, I think Obama and his wife have a better understanding of my experience than Hillary does at this point. It seems she's been breathing the rarefied air of the political elites a bit too long. I haven't heard her speak with what I thought was real understanding about the brutal realities of working folks in this country. I haven't heard her speak as a woman to women about the issues they face every day. When she brings up sexism, it seems to be for the purposes of gaining campaign advantage than speaking to the larger issue of women's rights.

And I can't get past her enabling of George Bush over and over again. That makes me ill. I remember during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, how badly I wanted she and Bill to stand up and "denounce and reject" Bush's warmongering, and they didn't. They turned their backs on millions of people in the streets who knew this was wrong, and they smiled condescendingly at us and assured the masses that the protesters were wacky/extremist radicals, and Bush/Cheney knew what they were doing. They, along with many others, helped Bush, and abandoned us.

I'd love to vote for a woman. But I wouldn't vote for a Republican woman, just because she was a woman, and I can't do it for a Democrat either, when I don't feel she represents my views.

[Kittycat]

68. Agreed!

Your situation sounds like a tougher challenge than mine, but I too worked my way through college. My parents didn't even want me to go away (religious fundamentalists). I had to stay in school year round, in order to afford to survive working 1-2 jobs in the process while living on campus, or in off campus student housing that could only be occupied while in school. I had to because I had no other place to go home to. I'm a big girl, I've taken my fair (even unfair) share of lumps - but you just gotta pick yourself up and keep going. Nothing in life frustrated me more than those that tried to garner sympathy by being the perpetual "victim" (using it as an excuse for failure in everything), and constantly dragging every little petty thing out like it's the biggest disaster in the world. I had some very rough times in my mid-20's, an abusive husband, etc... My boss was shocked the day I came to him to let him know I had to take a day off to move, and that I might need a little time here and there for the divorce hearings. He had no idea. WHY? Because I didn't feel that I needed to drag my personal life out in front of my co-workers. And honestly, if I had - they would have eaten me alive.

[boobooday]

90. You rock

Not that we are competing, but I think you are one kick-ass lady, and I can't imagine trying to get past the religion thing to come to any kind of understanding with your parents. My parents are not religious at all, but really just couldn't help financially.

I also hate the victim thing, because I feel it is poisonous and counterproductive. Injustice has to be answered, pain has to be felt, but making a victim narrative part of your identity is just not healthy. I don't think you and I could have gotten through our challenges if we did that.


:hi: :hi:

[Blue_Roses]

46. I think that is what most

women who support Obama feel. It's not about not wanting a woman as president, it's just the right woman. I love Barbara Boxer and I would support her in a new york second!:applause:

[rodeodance]

74. yes, we know who Hillary is-faults and all. that is the distinctions--BO's faults

are starting to dripple out and you don't like it. too bad



We all see HRC for what she really is.

[my3boyz]

7. GOOD! I'm glad you are tired! Please leave and take the rest of the Hillary supporters with you!

I'm tired of all you spamming the forum with the same crap about Obama. Rezko...Wright...he's black....he can't win general election...media is biased...etc...etc.....over and over again!

[rodeodance]

60. ha ---dream on We are here to stay. Hillary inspires us. She is strong.

[sniffa]

8. And here I thought this was the Pastor Wright forum

Silly me.

Oh, and can you come down off that cross? Some other Hillary supporters would like to use it. kthnxbai

[rodeodance]

18. and for 2 days it was the G. Fererro forum. and BO folks sitll threading about her today.

[olkaz]

9. You realize there are all sort of options for Hillary folks, right?

Talkleft for one. myDD is 24x7 Hillary. Check out those options.

And don't blame Obama supporters for this. If Hillary hadn't ran such a incomprehensibly incompetent campaign, this would have been over a long time ago, and all this would have been avoided.

Anyway, the door is thattaway. ---->

[rodeodance]

23. its your self rightous attitude like yours that OP is talking about. Shame on you.

[olkaz]

35. shame on me?

A Hillary nomination was a forgone conclusion six months ago. She was so far ahead, nobody had a chance.

You sure do say "shame on you" a lot. Why should I be ashamed? I didn't say anything hurtful or untrue.

[rodeodance]

49. for this "Anyway, the door is thattaway. ---->" This IS DU. that include Hillary supporters.

[olkaz]

62. You missed the point.

I was taking that as a given. Of course this forum is for everybody.

The OP is clearly asking for less Obama supporters, which isn't going to happen here. I offered reasonable alternatives that offer that type of situation.

That's soooo shameful.

[rodeodance]

66. She is asking that Obama supports show some respect. not that there be

less in numbers. so you missed the point-of the OP

[olkaz]

75. Are we reading the same OP?

"Just rename this forum "Obama for President", Because that's pretty much the only thing being discussed. I know that other Hillary supporters, like me, are sick of reading about it."

Obama for president is the only thing being discussed,

and BECAUSE OF THAT;

Hillary supporters like me are sick of reading about it.

"She is asking that Obama supports show some respect."

That's not what was asked. At all.

[Lannigan]

81. Actually, it is..

...part of it. I see a lot of disrespect, and I seem to see it more from the Obama side than the Clinton side, although the Clinton supporters have their moments too, believe me...I'm not that blind.

[olkaz]

89. What is this silliness then?

"although the Clinton supporters have their moments too, believe me...I'm not that blind."

Everybody is crazy right now. Both sides. It's an election year. You've owned up to it, which I think was big of you.

All I'm saying is that you have to choose between craziness on this site (which favors Obama) or craziness on another site (MyDD, Talkleft, that favor Clinton).

It's all relative.

[rodeodance]

92. good grief---she certainly is not telling you to leave the board like you did to Hillary supporters.

[olkaz]

96. Let's look at what I said

"Talkleft for one. myDD is 24x7 Hillary. Check out those options.

And don't blame Obama supporters for this. If Hillary hadn't ran such a incomprehensibly incompetent campaign, this would have been over a long time ago, and all this would have been avoided.

Anyway, the door is thattaway. ---->"

I didn't say leave the board. I was suggesting that if the OP doesn't like the tenor or opinion of the posts here, the op doesn't have to read any of this. There are options elsewhere that would be more more palatable to the OP's tastes.

Telling somebody to leave, and saying somebody has the ability to leave are two different things.

Hold on, I'll save you the response. Shame on me!

[rodeodance]

98. it sure seemed like it to me. enough said about this.

[Jersey Devil]

10. plonk

toodles

[saltpoint]

11. Oh horseshit.

Your gal's lost a huge lead and didn't even PLAN for post-Feb. 5th contests out of sheer arrogance.

And for fracturing, you simply can't beat the Clinton campaign for the 08 primaries. They lead the league.

[flordehinojos]

12. Lannigan, i absolutely stand with you.

i too see all this divisiveness coming from the obama camp, and that is how he wants it.

i, for my part, should he get the nomination, will never, ever, ever, vote for such a divisive man in any general election.

and, as a florida i have already cast my vote for hillary. will it count? i don't know ... but this revote crap is for the birds. debbie wasserman-schultz said it well, florida is still trying to rebound from the 2000 election and to have another count, recount, or revote just wouldn't sit well with many floridians.

obama has to erase whatever good feelings many black voters have towards the clinton, that is why he puts out, through his surrogates, all this race baiting.

[frazzled]

13. Why?

I see just as many threads here attacking Obama or supporting Hillary as vice versa. What is this unfounded persecution complex?

Just look at the number of threads in the last 24 hours from Clinton supporters attacking Obama on the Wright story. That's fair. People are defending or attacking in response, sometimes rationally, sometimes in ugly ways (just like Clinton supporters have done in all the Ferraro threads previously). But I don't here anyone whining "Just rename this forum 'Hillary for President.'" Let's just all chill.

[DarienComp]

14. "I know that other Hillary supporters, like me, are sick of reading about it."

Too bad. It's not this forum's job to make you happy. And if Obama supporters outnumber Hillary supporters, that's only because Obama has more supporters than Hillary.

[reflection]

15. As far as I can tell,

Obama supporters have no built-in advantages over HRC supporters here. And really, if Rush Limbaugh is as powerful as a lot of people think he is, and he is artificially propping up HRCs campaign at the expense of Obama, shouldn't we be overrun with faux HRC supporters?

I honestly think Obama is just tapping into a demographic that has, until now, been largely disconnected from politics, and the netroots in particular.

[From The Left]

16. Silly Thread. DU is a pro-Hillary propaganda site. Everyone knows it

[rodeodance]

19. Time for you to come out of the Obama bubble and get real.

[greguganus]

24. "get real"...still using Hillary's failed slogans I see. n/t

[rodeodance]

57. Ha HA---yup and she still is in the race. ha ha. and that really bugs you. ha ha

[From The Left]

78. Not me. She's Destroyed Billary's Rep. Now She's Ruining Hers

[rodeodance]

93. oh stop bringing RW crap into this discussion! shame on you.

[From The Left]

110. Another Hillbot Speaking Nonsense

[From The Left]

76. Silly, Silly, Silly. No wonder Shillary is Losing

[SoonerPride]

17. Whining is so becoming

The reality is that Hillary has lost.

[rodeodance]

71. so many obamafolk are using cracks crystal balls.

The reality is that Hillary has lost.

[EmilyAnne]

20. Don't you mean Jeremiah Wright/Geraldine Ferraro 2008?

And, that stuff you saw written about Ferraro (a heifer, etc.) is disgusting. I hope that person has been banned. Totally uncalled for.

I agree that the hateful personal attacks has reached a alarming high. I think the last 8 years have been so horrible, that we are all so desperate to see our preferred candidate get into the White House. We all want the same things, I think. We want to undo this mess. We believe that one candidate has a better chance of doing that than another. Personal attacks are just not helpful at all and the more it goes on, the further we will get from our goal of beating the Republicans.

Anyway, I hope none of my posts have been offensive. As someone who has worked with disadvantaged women in rural Mexico, Russia, Uzbekistan and a hand full of other countries, I agree that, yes, sexism is still a very ugly factor in this world. So is racism. So is homophobia. As Democrats, let's keep up the fight!


:pals:

[rodeodance]

21. Well said and Welcome.

[easy_b94]

25. Yall hillbots/Billary people don't get it...Obama won more states...

more delegates and more votes then Billary. He is winning this contest fairly

[rodeodance]

52. You Obamabots/McCAINY folks don't get it. Hillary is in the race to stay

[ProSense]

26. What about the stupid pro-Hillary posts that get over 100 recs? Whine much? n/t

[dionysus]

27. awwww.....

here is your banky

[dionysus]

28. awwww.....

here is your banky

[DS1]

29. Perhaps the Obama/Hillary post ratio is reflective of the voting going on in the country

Just a thought.

[rodeodance]

45. you thought wrong since she is getting half the votes out there.

Perhaps the Obama/Hillary post ratio is reflective of the voting going on in the country
Posted by DS1


Just a thought.

[DS1]

56. No. She's not.

[beachmom]

30. That's because this site is called DEMOCRATIC Underground

Hillary is NOT going to be the nominee. Her only goal is to DESTROY Obama so that the Supers will feel forced to give her the nomination OR DESTROY him enough that McCain beats him in the fall, so that she can run in '12.

Hillary is no Democrat, just a parasite on the party, and Obama is the REAL Democrat.

Sorry, but that has to be said because it is the TRUTH!

[City Lights]

31. Please explain why you believe this race is still close.

Thanks. :-)

[Lannigan]

41. She is behind by 124 delegates

Which is why I say that. Neither will get the number of delegates they need, meaning they've really split the vote.

I haven't seen the popular vote numbers (but thanks to someone who, in another post, pointed out where to get good delegate counts) lately, and would like to. Do you have a good site for that?

[City Lights]

70. Obama is up by 160 pledged delegates. He's up by 124 if supers are

included. He's up in the popular vote total by over 700,000. Real Clear Politics has the numbers.

The longer Clinton stays in the race, the further behind she falls. Her momentum is in reverse. I don't see a scenario where the SDs side with the candidate who received fewer pledged delegates and fewer votes.

on edit - Obama has won 53% of the pledged delegate to Clinton's 47%. Being up by 6% isn't what I'd call "close."

[Indenturedebtor]

32. Oh sorry

Hillary seems like a decent Senator and all, but theres a Presidential race going on, and we have a Dem Candidate that needs supporting.

Gobama :bounce:

[Hawkowl]

33. Go AWAY

Sick of DU after 13 posts? Maybe you should try another forum. It is the height of rudeness to just show up and start insulting people with fake indignation.

[Lannigan]

40. No intention to insult

And don't you think it's rude for a Dem, who was SO happy to find a cool place to hang with other Dems, to find all this bitterness and hatred going on? A reflection of the Repugs vs the Dems...scary.

Just because I only have XX posts doesn't mean I haven't been lurking for a while. I just now got the balls to say anything.

To be fair, I have seen Clinton supporters saying some REALLY stupid things. And I have flagged offensive posts, feeling stupidly like the 'forum police' for doing so.

I just hope we can and will all come back together when this is over with...there are so many bigger things to be spending our time on than trash talking one or the other candidate.

[Orsino]

34. The percentage of pro-Clinton posting...

...is not incompatible with her chances of winning the nomination.

Please alert on any posts you believe to be inappropriate. I know I have.

[bunnies]

37. 17 posts and bashing DU already.

Nice.

[Jersey Devil]

44. A lot of the Hillary posts are like that lately

There's another string with somebody moaning about how DU has become nothing more that an Obama site by someone with all of 11 posts.
They must have forgotten to lock the doors last night at the asylum

[Lannigan]

53. And there you go proving my point again

Sorry, absolutely NOT meaning to be rude!

But I am a woman, so call me a bitch and a whiner if you want.



:sarcasm: about the last line.

[rodeodance]

55. Most of the Obamafolks posting on the thread have proven you. point. They just can't help themselves

[Jersey Devil]

58. pathetic

You and apparently dozens of other Hillary supporters take the time to sign up here just so you can spam us with the same garbage over and over again and then proclaim yourselves victims when we get annoyed about your spam and you're not just plain weird?

[Lannigan]

67. No, last time I checked

I was quite sane.

I didn't sign up "just to spam you" with the same garbage over and over again. I signed up to put my 2¢ in (and if the recent pay cut I got doesn't eat too much into the household bills, I'll be donating). I've been lurking for a long time. It just so happens that the thing I'm feeling most passionate about at this moment is this divide in the party. Once this is done, it will be winning the GE. Once that's done, it'll be a myriad of other things...probably alot of GLBT stuff since that affects me quite a bit.

I'm not spamming. Spamming would take me way too long and too much energy. Anyway, who doesn't love a spirited debate? As long as it's not hateful and personal.

[Jersey Devil]

72. yeah, "lurking for a long time" - 19 days

Registered 2/25/08

At least you could have been clever enough to hide your profile like most of the other spammers who recently joined.

[Lannigan]

77. Lurking for a lot longer than that

Not as a member. I just became one. And I have no reason to hide my profile. Anyone can lurk and read without signing up.

Give me a break. Done with this part of the conversation. OT anyway.

[olkaz]

80. Is it completely lost on you that somebody could lurk without registering?

Hmmm....

[bunnies]

82. The freepers are bored. I guess it was to be expected.

Hopefully it'll be over soon.

[Lannigan]

85. Freeper no more

I will get a lot of questions when the CC statement arrives. But it's for the good of the country, right?

;)

[fbuzz]

38. When Obama Loses The General Election They'll Blame Two Things...

White people, and Hillary.

[Texas Hill Country]

39. 100% agreed.

[alcibiades_mystery]

42. Oh, the Humanity!

[rndmprsn]

51. hahah....love it

[rndmprsn]

43. i agree...take shrill hill out of it completely!

yay

[rodeodance]

54. ' i agree...take shrill obama out of it completely"

[Doctor_J]

47. works for me

:thumbsup:

[gristy]

50. Excellent idea!

:thumbsup:

[rainman99]

59. I totally agree. However, I think the media deserves

a big hand in tearing apart the party, too.

[YOY]

61. Have a pickle surprise!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzOpjBOzMqA

[meow mix]

64. good idea. the hillbot will need a constant reminder

gonna need something like that or just ban them all.

[Lannigan]

79. What a democratic statement

[MH1]

65. Considering

that Obama will win the nomination UNLESS Hillary engages in underhanded tactics that will tear the party apart (oh wait :eyes:) then yes, it probably should be.

[againes654]

73. It is going both ways

Both camps are going to far. Both supporters are going to far. It isn't one side or the other, it is BOTH.

[Dinger]

83. Yes, And We Hillary Supporters

know it. It isn't even the number of pro-Obama posts. It's how many anti-Hillary posts remain.
I have taken the usual steps to handle this. I have given up on that situation changing, but not on Hillary Clinton (as far as this forum goes). I will continue to post here, despite the number of Hillary supporters that have left.
I do like many things about Obama, and he is indeed inspiring, and he does give me hope for many things. To do this, I have had to separate him from (some) of his supporters. That has helped me remain positive, or as positive as I can be. However, I do agree with the OP about the race being close (it is).
Maybe a longer primary season isn't one of the best things for OUR party, but I don't think it is fair in a close race for a candidate to give up. We do need to unite, and I have no doubt that we (eventually) will (by the convention). I believe (I really do) that Hillary has a chance of getting the nomination, but it will be tough. For me, it comes down to her experience. It was a fairly long process for me, but in the end, I chose to support Hillary.

Just my opinion. Don't care if I get blasted. It'll just roll off my back.

Ding

[Beacool]

86. The party is torn apart and divided, and so is this board.

There's plenty of blame to go around, but the reality is that unless these two people end up on the same ticket, McCain may win in November.

When poll after poll is showing that 25% of Hillary supporters will rather vote for McCain over Obama, plus the ones who would either stay home or vote for Nader, it does not bode well for the party.

We have two bright, capable, good people, YES, GOOD PEOPLE, running for the same job. One is inspiring and the other one more experienced and knowledgeable.

It is time to put all egos aside or we will end up with a Republican in office.

United we stand, divided we fall.

[Independent-Voter]

88. It be in the Dems best interest to be honest. There is no way in hell that HRC would win the GE

Shit, 40% of the DEMOCRATS hate her. Do you honestly think that Joe Six-pack is going to vote her shrill ass in the Whitehouse?

[rodeodance]

99. BO negs are almost as high. he is closing the gap

[grantcart]

95. your penultimate sentence explains the real passion for the Clinton campaign

[SeaLyons]

97. Hear Hear

Obama supporters can be very very rude. Don't let that stop you. Show your support for Hillary all the more.

Welcome to DU. You can push the alert button on anyone that is perfonally offensive. It's against the rules (I've been told), but I'm not sure how much the rules are inforced.

[Cheap_Trick]

106. yeah, I've NEVER seen HRC supporters being rude

:eyes:

You've all taken the high road. Every last one of ya.

By the way, that was :sarcasm:.

[Moochy]

100. Feel the rush

limbaugh

[sudopod]

102. Help help I'm being oppressed, come witness the violence inherent in the system!

Welcome to the internet, lol.

[RiverStone]

103. ......"all" from the Obama camp???

Come on --- not all.

No need to use a broad brush. There is plenty of mud-slinging from both sides.

I make a point to NOT insult Hillary supporters, you are - by and large - loyal Democrats and if my candidate wins the nomination, we will not be able to win the GE without you.

I continue to be surprised why folks think it makes sense to eat our own?

Now, I'll diss Hillary up and down for her Rovarian tactics and fear mongering bullshit - and I think Obama is fair game for what ever concerns you may have. But they are the candidates; they knew what they were getting into. All part of politics.

But I separate that from dissing her supporters and we need each other to fight the bigger battle this fall.

peace~:)

[Forkboy]

104. And a handful of Hillary supporters were rubbing everyone's face in it last Spring.

Those clowns bailed when the tide turned, but they were the first of any candidate supporters to be obnoxious shitheads. And it went on day after day, poll after poll, misleading story after misleading story, long before any other candidate was even warming up. We could have just called DU Hillary For President back then. As a Kucinich supporter how do you think I've been feeling no matter which of these two yobbos is leading? ;)

There are a lot of obnoxious supporters from both camps, and there's a lot of people who I suspect are pretending be as obnoxious in their phony support of either one just to create the atmosphere you see now.

Also, I suggest you get a thicker skin is the math quote really upset you. That's about as tame as GD-P gets. :shrug:

[Seabiscuit]

105. Just to be fair, there may be a handful of Obama supporters here who are not sexists, racists, liars

and total hypocrites. I said "may be". I only know of 1, for sure, and that's someone everyone knows: Nance Greggs.

Over 600 of them are now on my "ignore" list, but they keep popping up like whack-a-moles so fast that there must be at least another 1,000 that I may never get around to expunging from my screen. In fact, in this one thread alone, I see 39 posts from "ignored" as of this moment.

I think at least half of them are freepers only pretending to be Democrats here to disrupt this place and cause havoc in the dem party. But the other half are the most insidiously childish, moronic colon plungers who have the audacity to call themselves Democrats that I've ever seen anywhere.

[Political Heretic]

107. Dont lecture me in the midst of this ten thousand thread Wright spam attack from Hillbots

Police your own.

[musicblind]

108. There was a poll popping around this forum earlier that is very telling

It asked who many Hillary supporters had been forced of DU verses Obama supporters. The results were over 10 to 1 that more Hillary supporters had been forced away than Obama supporters.

It is one thing to be supportive of your candidate. We should ALL be supportive of our candidates, and it is another thing to be hurtful to others for no reason at all.

[ScreamingMeemie]

111. Might as well congratulate yourself as well... The supporters of both

candidates have done nothing for me in the way I view the candidates. They have made my sadness over the waste of yet another election cycle even worse. Sorry, y'all suck at campaigning for your candidates.

[AGirl]

112. well, why wouldnt this site be like daily kos? its expected..

no moderation and probably admins and mods who are also enjoying all the anti hillary stuff