“The Obama camp. couldn't immediately say whether he'd [Wright] remain on the committee.”

[rodeodance]

I know Obama had a response early today----but given the large amt of msn coverage-----Wonder what is next to come??

Recap:
Samantha Powers has left the O. camp because of a rude outlandish rant.
Maxim Thorne—a member of O. camp GLBT committee resigned a few days for Rovian-style emails he was sending out to blogs. (see below).


And yes, G. Ferraro resigned from the Clinton camp.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Wrights_committee.html


March 13, 2008

Wright's committee

Jeremiah Wright, in the news today because video of a sermon (parts of which had been reported, and disavowed, before) adds some heat to the discussion of his relationship with Obama, has generally been described as connected to Obama only informally — a religious figure with whom Obama has said he disagrees at times, a kind of cranky uncle.

But he also has a formal role on the campaign.

Wright is a member of Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee — the sort of largely honorary, advisory body that in recent days has recently been used mostly to throw people off who say controversial things.

The Obama campaign couldn't immediately say whether he'd remain on the committee.
……..

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/03/maxim-thorne-another-yalie-embarrasses-barack-obama.php

Thorne had to resign today from Obamateam: Another Yalie Embarrasses Obama

2maxim_031108_fresh.jpg

Another Barack Obama adviser had to resign today after making incendiary statements about Hillary Clinton. Maxim Thorne, formerly a chief at the Human Rights Campaign and, until today, a member of Obama's Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/ Transgender Leadership Council, recently e-mailed a lengthy anti-Clinton screed that began by declaring Clinton "a disaster for the Democratic Party" and went on to question Hillary's whereabouts "when Monica was having sex with Bill" and assert that ……" Thorne resigned almost immediately after the e-mail surfaced…….

[rodeodance]

1. I find it telling --the Outrage on this board that Fererro resign from her post--yet

NOT a word about this!

[jenmito]

4. Ferraro lied. She said Susan Rice and Jan Schakowsky called her a racist on tv. They didn't..

[rodeodance]

9. Please focus on the OP. It is about BO.

[jenmito]

13. I'm responding to your post about Ferraro. Maybe YOU should focus on your OP if you don't want

ANY comments on things you say. :eyes:

[rodeodance]

18. The only point about Fererro that is relevant is that she resigned and Hillary has apologized. Will

BO ask Wright to step down?

[jenmito]

24. Right. And you don't get to control the posts on this or any other thread. YOU brought

her up then accused me of not sticking to the subject. :eyes: Why SHOULD he ask him to step down?

[rodeodance]

30. "Why SHOULD he ask him to step down?"--- I think it would help put some of

this issue behind him. What do you think?

[jenmito]

33. Is THAT your concern? Are you looking out for his best interests? I doubt it.

[rodeodance]

38. Is it in his best interests to disassociate Wright from his campaign? --yes, I think so.

[jenmito]

39. And that's the point of your thread? You want him to do what's best for him? I doubt it.

[rodeodance]

41. Your personal doubts do not bother me.

[jenmito]

62. And your fake concern doesn't bother me.

[rodeodance]

64. so sorry to disapoint you sweetie.

[jenmito]

67. You don't disappoint me, sweetie. You simply fail to impress me with your incoherent arguments.

[rodeodance]

75. since you have just blabbered away several posts, you are in no position to insult me.

[jenmito]

78. Take it up with the other posters who also questioned your "please stay on topic" remarks.

[rodeodance]

81. Are you gone now?

[jenmito]

97. No.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

52. After how many days?

Be consistent.

[rodeodance]

55. was it 2-?? Sorry, but I do not recall.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

57. 20 years.

Since the Jackson comment.

Fun isn't it?

[rodeodance]

59. too bad the msn just got wind of it yeserday--oops

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

86. Good for them.

Too bad Obama's gonna be our nominee. :)

[rodeodance]

88. ha ha---your crystal ball is off tilter again:-)

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

90. But my table of mathematical probabilities is working like a charm.

:woohoo:

[rodeodance]

92. what ever.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

94. You know it, too. That's what's funny.

But I admire your spunk! :D

Good luck!

[LSK]

16. YOU JUST REFERED TO FERRARO

:wtf:

[jenmito]

17. Thank you. n/t

[rodeodance]

44. you are welcome

[rodeodance]

21. Yes, in the context of my OP. see my post please.

[mmonk]

19. Didn't you bring it up?

[rodeodance]

22. see post 18 please.

[jenmito]

26. See every post on every thread.

[rodeodance]

43. you do have a wandering problem today.

[jenmito]

63. You have a comprehension problem. You bring things up then accuse people of going off topic when

they respond. :shrug:

[rodeodance]

66. my dear--if you had gotten to the point-there would not have been a problem. As it

is, it does not seem to me you have much to say about Hillary and Wright--or how it related to the focus of OP.

[jenmito]

70. Hon, YOU have no point to "get to." All you can say is to please don't go off topic-about topics

YOU raise!

[rodeodance]

74. Well, I already told you how Fererro related to the OP. That was my point. Sorry you missed it.

[jenmito]

76. And I responded to it. Then you accused me of going off topic.

[rodeodance]

82. in my opine you were. end of discussion.

[jenmito]

100. Then you lose.

:hi:

[The Doctor.]

71. Well, Ferraro DID comment negatively on Obama. Has Wright done the same with Clinton?

If so, then they ahould be treated the same.

I can see Obama's association with Wright being used heavily against Obama by the right.

[rodeodance]

80. I am not aware of anything expect what a posted said below. But that is not

the concern as i see it.

Wrights broader comments=such as God dam America will be used against him by the Right. and if he is the nominee, he should take him off his campaign committee at the very least.

[The Doctor.]

102. I completely agree.

Neither candidate can afford to have such blemishes. Obama's look like they'd screw him in the GE, Clinton's will hurt her in the Primary and help no one in the GE but McCain.

[jenmito]

2. What did the preacher say about Hillary that wasn't true?

[rodeodance]

7. Is that relevant to this OP

[jenmito]

10. Yes.

[rodeodance]

14. Tell us How----but first tell us what he said.

[jenmito]

20. He said Hillary never experienced growing up Black. It's true.

[rodeodance]

27. So?--What is the problem. Why are infusing Hillary into this post about BO/wright?

[jenmito]

29. What's WRONG with you? You just asked me to tell you what he said about her!

:wtf:

[rodeodance]

31. guess i did not see his comments as a problem--what is your point?

[jenmito]

35. What's YOUR point of this thread?

[rodeodance]

40. Whatever is --it sure got you in into a tizzy

[jenmito]

65. Um, wrong. I'm responding to your posts and your responses are all about "not being on topic."

Try again.

[rodeodance]

69. Since they were not negitive comments what exactly is your issue??

[jenmito]

73. Please see posts 1 and 14 and then my responses.

[rodeodance]

85. Once again, the issue of the OP--is that Wright sits on his campaign committe at

this moment. BO made comments today but he did not ask wright to resign form his committee. Meanwhile, Fererro has resigned. I gave you my opinion as to why i thought that would be benificial. You insulted by snark comments about my concern and your ASSumption of lack of concern.

Now. do you have an opinion?--or not--it does not bother me one way or another if you do or not----

[jenmito]

96. As soon as you reply to all my other posts with something other than "stick to the topic of the OP"

I'll reply to that.

[rodeodance]

99. sorry but I do not need a lecture from you. It is my Op. And you are boring me. bye

[jenmito]

101. That's funny. Everyone here can read and see that it's YOU lecturing ME about what I'm allowed to

respond to.

[LSK]

25. so we dont have a 3 strikes your out law??

America has never killed innocents?

America has had a stellar history in its treatment of blacks?

The CIA has never fucked with another country?

We did not nuke Hiroshima?

:shrug:

[rodeodance]

45. no, we do not have a 3 strike law-

so we dont have a 3 strikes your out law??
Posted by LSK


America has never killed innocents?

America has had a stellar history in its treatment of blacks?

The CIA has never fucked with another country?

We did not nuke Hiroshima?

[LSK]

54. what are they talking about then in these 3,160,000 google finds?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=3+strike+law&btnG=Google+Search

[rodeodance]

61. they lost me.

[MethuenProgressive]

3. "Wright is a member of Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee"

If this fire him/fire her stuff continues there's only going to be Barack and Hillaryleft to lick the envelopes...

[rodeodance]

11. I do not know why the delay

[democrattotheend]

5. I thought he had resigned

If not, he should.

I'm not sure if the council is even active anymore...if so Wright should resign from it.

[rodeodance]

8. I had not heard

[democrattotheend]

12. I'm not sure...read that somewhere yesterday

That he had resigned a while ago. Not sure if it is right or not. If not, he should resign.

[ellacott]

34. He retired as Pastor some time ago

[usrbs]

42. He resigned as pastor but it takes effect in May n/t

[ellacott]

51. I Know, he is on a sabbatical until June

[rodeodance]

49. I was referring to his committee membership on BO campaign.

[Unsane]

6. He's dropping the ball again. Why the delay? What is to be gained by it?

Is the "black militant radical" vote that important to him? He did the same thing with Farrakhan.

[jenmito]

15. Maybe he wants the "new" information that he IS a Christain and NOT a MUSLIM to sink in for a while.

[rodeodance]

48. Your snarky comments do nothing for a productive discussion

[The Doctor.]

77. That occured to me as well.

This issue could eliminate that notion, but replace it with another bad one.

[jenmito]

79. True, but then he can clear that up by Apr. 22nd.

[The Doctor.]

103. He damn well better. ;) n/t

[angie_love]

28. Nothing will be gained by it, his personal loyalty to his pastor

(who probably has done more good in his life than bad) is seriously going to damage him. WAKE UP OBAMA, if you want to fucking win, then throw this guy down! Honestly, I think Hillary was right when she said he needed to be more forceful about denouncing these controversial ppl from his life. He needs more white votes than black votes.

[Iceburg]

32. He won't denounce until backed into a corner ...this is not leadership!/nt

[rodeodance]

47. its his Judgement this is at issue---for BO to put him on his campaign committee.

[Unsane]

50. It's bad all around. I think his damage control efforts are subpar.

[rodeodance]

60. I read that short response from him today. I do not think it will satisfy many.

[loveangelc]

58. That is the sad truth.

[angie_love]

23. I have to say I'm very disappointed in Obama for not throwing this guy under the bus

Does he want to win or what? I think Obama executed very poor judgement on Wright given his extremely inflammatory statements. Having said that, I still strongly support Obama and only hope that he wakes up and disowns Wright. He is kidding himself if he thinks this is not going to seriously damage his winning in November. I'm very disappointed.

[rodeodance]

36. yes, I do think BO needs to disassociate Wright from his campaging--not from his

being his pastor--that is a private matter--although with the msm on this now.it could be a problem also

[LSK]

37. what Wright said has been posted in GD many times in the past 5 years

[rodeodance]

46. GD does not matter much it seems to the msm. But they have taken off with it now.

[stillcool]

53. Fine...let's compare...tit for tat

From: Maxim Thorne
Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 8:46 pm
Subject: Clinton lies and sleaze
Hillary Clinton is a disaster for the democratic party. Now she prefers McCain to Obama. Now we know it was SHE who told the Canadian government that her railings against NAFTA were political posturing. It was not Barack's campaign!

We cannot tolerate her lies and stolen election.

Time for all of us democratics to wake up to this disgusting turn. As democratics this should affirm the end of her campaign.

At 3am, Hillary said she and Bill were in bed and she knows of all the calls a President gets at different times of the day and night. Really? So much involvement - so much togetherness. Where was she when Monica was having sex with Bill? 35 years of experience? When he was intimidating Katherine Wiley and Paula Jones? Where was the judgment on the cattle futures and white water. Do we forget Mark and Denise Rich? This was an impeached President who lost his licence to practice law. He committed perjury. They settled with Paula Jones for the full amount of her lawsuit. I haven't forgotten and none of us should.

I remember the scandal when the Clintons' bags were searched when they left the White House and they had to return historic artifacts and gifts.

When Bin Laden was building Al Qaeda, Bill and she were fighting impeachment, fighting Paula Jones, fighting Katherine Wiley.

Please, we are going down a nasty road with a nasty, secretive and proven lying Clinton. We should all want to see her tax returns, I want to see her White House emails. Let really send this candidate what she deserves: the spotlight on her vetting. She says she's been vetted. Partly true and it's not pretty what came out.

What still has to be vetted are her tax returns, her White House performance (we already know her disasterous failure on healthcare), her WH emails, the donations to the Clinton Foundation and library etc.

Time to moveon again. Obama is the only credible candidate who can move on beyond this continuing nasty dynasty of Clinton and Bushes.

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail
A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."
"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
Rose, a Jones County coordinator, was forced out last week after the campaign learned that she'd forwarded a similar e-mail.
But On Call has obtained a copy of the email, which shows that a third Clinton volunteer staffer, Iowa County Coordinator Linda Yoder, was also on the e-mail chain.

Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee said Yoder, who is also on the Women's Leadership Council for Hillary, did not notify the campaign about the e-mail, but she did not forward it to anyone. Olson sent Yoder the e-mail on Oct. 5. The campaign did not learn of it until this weekend, Elleithee said.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html

[rodeodance]

56. yes, Thorne resigned immediately once it surfaced.

[Raffi Ella]

68. he needs to think about this ?

THAT speaks loud and clear of Obama's JUDGMENT.

[jackson_dem]

72. The best thing he can do is reject him but that can only mitigate the problem

It was been seen as politically motivated and have little value. Basically only those disposed to Obama will accept it. It will not help with swing voters. You can't just erase 20 years of endorsing a bigot--in stark contrast to your public rhetoric about "unity" and "moving beyond race"--who brought you to Christianity, is your mentor, was your pastor, married you, baptized your kids, inspired your book, and serves as the guiding light to you morally. The fact is if Obama is who he claims to be, a uniter, he would have disassociated himself from this bigoted nut, not when he was forced to do so politically but two decades ago...

[rodeodance]

87. I think so also---that 20 year history is going to be a problem. thanks for the great post.

[jackson_dem]

89. He is naive. He should have pre-empted this by denouncing him earlier

That would have given it some significant. If he does it now everyone will see it as transparently political.

[rodeodance]

93. poor judgment in not doing it earlier.

[Texas Hill Country]

83. if he rejects, AA's get pissed, if he doesnt, Whites get pissed and Repubs get scared..

This is loose, loose, loose.

[rodeodance]

95. I am not seeing how Repugs get scared?--seems this is good fodder for them??

[SeaLyons]

84. What a nightmare

makes you wonder how the media feels now after giving him a free ride all these months.

[rodeodance]

91. I really do not think the media gives a hoot how they have given him a pass--they

just move on to the next thing--which at the moment is wright and his association with BO. The RW will have new ammo now that is for sure.

Overall, it is NOT good for the Dem. party as a whole either!

[SeaLyons]

98. Agree

but I remain hopeful in my support for Hillary. This whole thing is a mess.

[rodeodance]

105. I am with her. She is a strong women.

[rodeodance]

104. **NEWSFLASH: Obama campaign won't ask Wright to step down ..

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Obama campaign won't ask Wright to step down ... link
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5080188#5080188
5080188, Obama campaign won't ask Wright to step down ... link
Posted by Alhena on Fri Mar-14-08 03:27 PM

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/14/770536.aspx

Seems like a mistake to me, even if it is just a meaningless advisory role, why not cut whatever ties do exist between Wright and the campaign?