Bob Graham Doesn't Have a Hope in Hell of Being Kerry's VP.

[robsul82]

Hey people. I've been reading these "Graham's gonna be the VP!" posts left and right for the past few days, and it's really just insanity to me. If Kerry wants to lose worse than Mondale, he'll pick Bobby G. Why?

The notebooks. There is no way on EARTH Bob Graham could be a viable VP with the public knowledge that he details every single waking moment of his life in notebooks for...I don't even know what, future generations to read? The Democratic Party would be a pinata for the neocons if Graham was chosen, and you can bank on that.

Simply put: Bob Graham could be from a state with 538 electoral votes and he would STILL be a horrible, horrible choice because he...the man friggin' takes notes on himself!

Geez.

Later.

RJS

[RobertSeattle]

1. Hmmmm

Bob Graham reads robsul82's DU comment on "Bob Graham Doesn't Have a Hope in Hell of Being Kerry's VP" .
Bob Graham thinks about it.
Bob Graham thinks he'd rather be Secy of State
Bob Graham moves on to next DU thread.

[freetobegay]

2. Are you from Florida?

Do you know Florida History with Bob Graham?

[robsul82]

4. What good is winning Florida...

...if 49 other states think the guy's a friggin' wacko? Which he actually might be anyway, for that matter.

Later.

RJS

[freetobegay]

5. Did I say anything about winning Florida?

I would just like to point out you know nothing of Bob Graham except one little factoid. His Senate record alone is enough to make him a great VP let alone his recored in Florida.

Just my 2 cents.

ON EDIT: do you have proof of "...if 49 other states think the guy's a friggin' wacko? Which he actually might be anyway, for that matter." Or is this just the usual smear campaign tactic?

[robsul82]

6. That WOULD BE what they'd say about him.

How EASY would it be to paint a guy as a psycho if he takes notes about his day obsessively in notebooks dating back TWENTY YEARS? Face it - there's NO hope with Graham. He will not be chosen.

If Kerry has any sense, that is.

Later.

RJS

[Skwmom]

7. How do you think they'll

paint a guy who is on the record channeling an unborn child?

"In 1985, a 31-year-old North Carolina lawyer named John Edwards stood before a jury and channeled the words of an unborn baby girl.”

"She speaks to you through me," the lawyer went on in his closing argument. "And I have to tell you right now — I didn't plan to talk about this — right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She's inside me, and she's talking to you." http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/31/politics/campaign/31EDWA.html?ex=1390885200&en=4fb97ac07a96f186&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND

[Cuban_Liberal]

8. Still have that hardon for Edwards, I see.

nice to know some things never change... :eyes:

[freetobegay]

12. What are you talking about?

Where is Edwards mentioned here? I thought we were discussing Bob Graham? :eyes:

[Finch]

3. Bob Graham ehy?

. Decent enough guy, potential sectary of defense or homeland security, But NOT VP...

.Would have any big pulling power amongst moderate voters.

.Doesn't really help in the Midwest.

.Can't grantee carrying FL into the Kerry column.

.Doesn't really balance the ticket that well.

.Not the greatest debtor in the world, and against Cheney IMHO he would be toast.

.with Edwards he might have been a good pick but with Kerry NO, Kerry really needs a younger Dem on the ticket, Edwards, Warner, Bayh, Landrieu perhaps Nelson but not someone like Graham... let him go to defense or homeland security if we win but do not give him the VP slot...

[JHBowden]

9. I don't see how we can go wrong with Wes.

Clark brings a lot of advantages and no disadvantages.

[Padraig18]

10. You really don't think he has any disadvantages?

You might want to step back and take an objective look. I like Clark, as any long-time DU-er here will attest, but he's not ten-feet tall and Teflon-coated. He has vulnerabilities, just like the rest of the 'contenders' do.

[salonghorn70]

11. I agree-it won't be Grahm

Gore already passed over him in 2000.

[fujiyama]

13. Of course

Gore also ended up choosing an even worse choice -- Lieberman.

God, I wonder how many voters the democrats lost to Nader with that choice.

I myself remember hearing Lieberman on Imus stating "there is no freedom from religion, only freedom from religion" and remember thinking, this is the democratic choice for a VP candidate?.