"No Viet Cong ever called me Nigger" - Muhammad Ali, Nation of Islam Minister, 1966

[theboss]

How racist. How inflammatory. But what would you expect from a black separatist.

We should take away his Presidential Medal of Freedom.

[FrenchieCat]

1. Scary angry Black man of his day in mainstream America,

but to progressives, he was a hero. I don't know anymore though. :(

[theboss]

2. To be a progressive hero, you apparently can't speak of race in a truthful manner

Everything is fine. We are all brothers.

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

3. Reverend Wright

I grew throughouht Ali's career, I went from being a liberal kid in the South that didn't understand what he was saying.
I decried racism but didn't have really any contacts with Afro Americans. As I got older,read, watched the news, and questioned everything, I just began to realize the differences in growing up black and white in America. Ali is a national treasure, and what Rev. Wright said about God Damning injustice in America is true.

[Bake]

4. Get the quote right. He didn't say "God damn the injustice in America"

He said "God Damn America." There's a difference, and as Obama proclaims, WORDS MATTER.

Bake

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

7. Duh

That was what he was saying God should Damn America for.

[KittyWampus]

9. what else did Wright say? Hmmm? He didn't JUST say "God Damn America" and you're a liar

by omitting the rest of the quote.

[malletgirl02]

5. Obama should reject and denouce him

:sarcasm:

[Alexander]

8. He already did. Is that not good enough for you?

Some people won't be happy no matter what he does.

[theboss]

10. When did he denounce Ali? Because that would piss me off

You don't put down The Champ.

[malletgirl02]

14. sorry, It's my fault

My original post was sarcastic referring to Ali, but I didn't use a sarcasm icon. I think the poster got confused and thought I talking and thought i was talking about Wright.

[malletgirl02]

11. sorry

Sorry it was sarcasm, I was referring to the OP's post about Ali. I will edit my most with a sarcasm icon

[Bake]

6. Ali said it in justification of his refusal to go KILL THEM.

It was shocking at the time, but nowhere near as shocking and viscerally repulsive as what Wright said.

Bake

[theboss]

12. Are you serious? The most famous man in America called the US a racist state and refused to serve

And somehow that is more repulsive than a little-known minister saying...whatever he said.

[KittyWampus]

13. you're not a Democrat if you think what Wright said was 'repulsive'. He's politically incorrect

but his words were a simple rephrasing of the simple term BLOWBACK.

so either you are not a Democrat or you are a very uniformed person if the MEANING of what Wright said bothers you.

[Bake]

15. Yes, I know the meaning of blowback.

If you have to explain Wright's words to Middle America, you've already lost.

And I don't condemn America, e.g., for George Bush's crimes, I condemn HIM.

Bake

[theboss]

16. America's crimes go over generations and involve both parties

It's not like we just started being a bully.

[BadgerLaw2010]

17. Yeah, that's also a winning political argument.

[EffieBlack]

21. "If you have to explain Wright's words to Middle America, you've already lost" - so let's just all

wallow in ignorance, never trying to move forward, never trying to "explain" anything to "Middle America" never bothering do better than we are because if we do, we'll "lose Middle America."

Let's just stay right where we are.

Oh, by the way, Jeremaiah Wright is IN Middle America. And the black folk who agree with him - or at least those of us who understand where he is coming from - also ARE Middle America. We're just as American and just as entitled to our point of view as anyone else who lives in "Middle America."

[americanstranger]

23. Bam.

People are treating the pastor and his church like 'The Other' here, and it's wrong.

But I think that's more out of a desire to score cheap political points than from genuine ignorance. At least I hope so.

- as

[Bake]

25. Of course you're entitled.

But that doesn't win elections.

Bake

[blm]

18. I thought about that, too, theboss. Good eye.

.

[Major Hogwash]

19. Fucking A! Muhammed Ali's the man!

I love that guy!

[KoKo]

20. Well....I guess if we have to live through the 1960's again...then BRING IT ON!

So many here don't understand why Mainstream America Elected Reaga because they were TIRED...worn out...and knew the Government as Against them...(that's our AMERICAN government) and so they voted for Reagan...for peace of mind.

We are now going down that road again. Will OBAMA bring PEACE TO US after these years of STRIFE? Bush/Cheny and the latter down fall of Clinton II's Administration filled with RANCOR/LAWSUITS and his SPITZER Behavior?

What WILL OBAMA DO FOR US? :shrug: Are we all YEARNING for the New REAGAN?

[Major Hogwash]

22. That is a crock!

Many here do understand why Reagan got in - because he fucking lied to the American people and the October Surprise that George Bush Senior, the fucking traitor, pulled in Iran in 1980.

[theboss]

24. They elected Reagan because Carter was a poor president

Bing. Bang. Boom.