Imagine If We'd Voted For The Real Qualified People

[KingOfLostSouls]

you know, the guys who have brought change THROUGH experience


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Joe_Biden,_official_photo_portrait_2.jpg/397px-Joe_Biden,_official_photo_portrait_2.jpg









we wouldn't be worried about headlines about weird preachers, or business associates, or former VP nominees gone racist insane, we wouldn't be worried about all this he said/she said stuff



instead, the only thing we'd be worried about is how quickly we want to accept the republicans surrender. not to be snarky, but WE TOLD YOU SO.

[Autumn]

1. Thanks to the fucking media

many of us never got a chance to vote for the ones we wanted,another election where they pick our candidate and we have to settle for less than what we wanted.

[KingOfLostSouls]

4. its not that I dislike barack or hillary

I don't. I like both of them.


just yeah...theres a term for what this process has become

"clusterf*ck"

[bobthedrummer]

21. "Inconvenient truths about the New Democrats, the Third Way, Democratic Leadership Council, etc."

the captive MSM, and many telecoms support the DLC-this is a must read thread link about TPTB that took out 6 of the 8 Democratic candidates, just as it has neutralized the new leadership elected in the 2006 midterm from acting on the urgent messages sent by we the people

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2973191

[Autumn]

38. Thank you

I've bookmarked those links to read.

[olkaz]

2. The correct answer was John Edwards.

Man, this whole thing has sucked without him.

Ugh.

[KingOfLostSouls]

7. I supported Joe Biden

edwards was my second choice


I made a thread when he basically got ran out of town because I saw edwards getting the joe biden treatment.


I'd like to see edwards run for DNC chair when howard dean steps down. I think he'd be a great choice and would do so much good there.

[olkaz]

14. I was Edwards, Dodd, Biden, Obama

So yeah, we could have done a lot freaking better.

All we can hope is that we put enough pressure on our nominee to actually lay out a progressive agenda.

[KingOfLostSouls]

17. Cheers

john edwards impressed me this campaign season. I didn't like him in 2004. he did a good job and got screwed.


I was Gore/Biden/Edwards


it kinda seems like the more qualified the candidate the earlier on they got knocked out.

[Tribetime]

25. that was my choice

I thought he won every debate

[mnhtnbb]

42. I agree. I've completely lost interest in the fight between Hillary and Obama.

As Edwards said, "where are the grown-ups?"

[sniffa]

3. No love for Dodd

[KingOfLostSouls]

9. Dodd is awesome

and I have three words for what I hope to see from chris dodd


SENATE MAJORITY LEADER

[KAZ]

11. I donated to him after his FISA filibuster campaign.

Man, this primary season has really gotten to me! Donating to multiple candidates, no less!

[CreekDog]

5. well they probably have some embarassing connection too

:eyes:

disqualifying is fraud, stealing, serious lying (not fibbing/politicking), etc.

not...THIS. if i didn't think that every candidate out there had a connection just as bad it might carry some weight with me, but i do think that.

politics makes for strange bedfellows. i mean, you do expect him to be a politician, don't you? i mean, if he weren't then you'd worry because he didn't know how to win, right?

shaking my head. others are losing theirs.

[jackson_dem]

12. None of them have a racist pastor

There is only one major politician reckless enough to have a racist as his pastor...

[KingOfLostSouls]

20. now now kids, play nice

hillary has terry "loser of general elections" mcauliffe as an advisor. shes as guilty as anyone.

[jackson_dem]

23. Is he a racist? Kerry lost because he was a bad candidate and got swiftboated

The solution the party is deciding on is selecting someone who will get swiftboated as racist against three out of four voters and somehow expecting to win.

[KingOfLostSouls]

27. I don't like Obama's preacher

but then again I don't like many preacher's in general.


and I thought Dean would have been better than Kerry, but I'm a deaniac.


and Kerry was a bit too timid for my liking, but he did get screwed quite readily by the MSM. same as obama and clinton camps are.

in january, this election is in the bag. now, I dunno how it can be won. I'm just thankful the democratic party will have a larger majority in congress and in local governments, but the white house is I dunno...

too much bad blood, too much baggage from the two.

[blm]

39. Kerry won because he was a fine candidate with a LOUSY DNC that never secured the election process

even after 2000's blatant theft.

Terry McAuliffe's DNC stewardship made sure the RNC had all the room it needed to steal another election for Bush.

[CreekDog]

26. is that the worst of what all 3 candidates have?

is that the most unflattering thing that could come out regarding any of them?

[KAZ]

6. Like em both, but elections ain't about "qualifications".

Look at Raygun for cripe's sake.

[Swamp Rat]

8. DENNIS KUCINICH FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!

:D



The world would be a better place. :patriot:

[Faygo Kid]

10. The white guys, instead of the candidates we honestly preferred?

We wouldn't have had to worry about "all this he said/she said stuff?"

Or even better, if only Strom Thurmond had been elected in 1948, we wouldn't have had all these problems!

Nice post, Trent.

[KingOfLostSouls]

13. yeah

except I'm not white. kinda shoots your lil theory in the foot there, pipsqueak.

[Faygo Kid]

28. Name calling. No surprise. But the point stands.

I don't give a tinker's damn what color you are, your post still reflects that kind of thinking.

Shithead.

There, now you've got me doing it.

[KingOfLostSouls]

31. Big words

from a kid who dresses in clown makeup and listens to idiots who think "boom shakka day" is a lyric.

[Faygo Kid]

37. Yep, all us 50+ types do that.

Is that a Sly and the Family Stone lyric?

If so, I plead guilty. But I am pretty sure it goes, Boom shaka-laka-laka Boom shaka-laka-laka

Much better, I am sure you agree. I appreciate the "kid" reference, though.

[Blue_In_AK]

19. Oh, please...

Color/gender has nothing to do with qualifications. And comparing Joe Biden to Trent Lott is just --- wrong.

[KingOfLostSouls]

22. No kidding

I think the candidates like obama should be thankful biden didn't uncork on them early on. he ran a clean campaign because he didn't want to give the republicans any ammo and paid for it.


if biden had wanted to, he could easily have humiliated them in the debates about their lack of knowledge in foreign policy and the judiciary.

[knixphan]

15. Some Kucinich love!

[skooooo]

16. Sorry, not photogenic enough...

We Americans don't seem to look beyond the surface.

[Blue_In_AK]

18. Indeed. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

24. How is the war-monger Biden acceptable?

Biden has voted to blindly authorize every repuke military action in the past 25 years including back with Reagan's idiotic Panama and Grenada invasions. He's a hawk worse than even Clinton.

[KingOfLostSouls]

29. How is Dennis better

when was the last time he even got a bill passed?


let alone a candidate who refuses to acknowledge states besides california, hawaii, and other vacation areas exist.

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Biden has been in the Senate since 1973.

it is time for him to go. It has been frustrating watching him all these years giving Reagan and Bush everything they wanted. Over the years, he has managed to make amazingly passionate speeches denouncing the repuke agenda, not unlike his colleague Arlen Specter, but then when it comes to voting time, he went along with them time after time. As a PA resident, my state is a neighbor to Delaware, so he has gotten alot of press around here over the years since Philly essentially does the news for Delaware.

My support for Dennis was mainly because of his having the balls to get up there and introduce articles of impeachment, fighting tooth and nail against his own party who continues to block that effort.

[KingOfLostSouls]

35. Biden has been around a while

and has the record of success in passing legislation to help people.

hell, biden's record on women is far better than kooch the mooch's


at least he didn't have to wait till he decided to run for president like dennis did to have an epiphany to support a woman's right to control her body


this is why no one took kooch supporters seriously. its not just about getting out of iraq, getting troops out is the beginning. making sure theres political reconciliation amongst the various factions in iraq so the shia don't start slaughtering sunnis is a whole other matter. kooch has no plans to deal with al qaeda or the taliban. kooch has no plans to handle the market. the only thing kooch has done is say "impeach bush" and campaign in states with the best weather for his trophy wife to go sunbathing.

[BumRushDaShow]

40. I believe Kucinich was in there more for plank purposes...

I don't believe that he was seriously attempting to be President but to at least make sure the voice of supporters of the more liberal part of the Democratic party could be heard. He interestingly votes against bills if they don't go far enough (from the left perspective) to register a protest-type vote.

Biden, IMHO, takes himself too seriously and unfortunately, he has a problem of not thinking before speaking. On too many occasions, he has spewed paternalistic swipes such as (in reference to Obama):

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy ... I mean, that's a storybook, man."

Last year he was quoted as saying:

“...You can not enter a 7-11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have an Indian accent.”

And he spouted other nonsense in comparing white Iowa with black D.C. school perfornance like:

There's less than one percent of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than four of five percent that are minorities. What is in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you're dealing with."

"When you have children coming from dysfunctional homes, when you have children coming from homes where there's no books, where the mother from the time they're born doesn't talk to them — as opposed to the mother in Iowa who's sitting out there and talks to them, the kid starts out with a 300 word larger vocabulary at age three. Half this education gap exists before the kid steps foot in the classroom,"

This is not much different from the garbage spewed from the Clinton campaign and unfortunately, the media keeps laughing it off justifying this as a "well that's just Joe", but this was not the first time and I'm sorry, I have absolutely no respect for this man.

[KingOfLostSouls]

41. Kucinich was there for free lunches

he put no serious effort into it, which means anyone who even mentions his name for president shouldn't be taken seriously.

joe takes himself and things seriously because real politics IS a serious business. its not some little man in a suit thats too big with a trophy wife getting people to pay for them to fly around the country on a vacation while he's never done anything in congress.

theres a reason no one takes kucinich and his supporters seriously, and its not something they can pawn off as all the MSM's fault.

[sueragingroz]

30. notice how high biden's forehead is?

[KingOfLostSouls]

32. kinda

but his teeth are so white they blind the eyes, hahaha

[Johnny Potpie]

33. BULLSHIT!!

Obama is as qualified as any of these guys. I initially wanted Kucinich, but since he quit, Obama was my choice. Not Biden or Richardson. Neither of those guys could stir up any type of vision to lead America. Nor would they indicate their desire to END THIS FUCKING WAR. This preacher business is a ploy to try and create negative buzz against Obama. Nothing more or less really. It's desperation, and I believe the voters will see through it. Enough of the "See I told you so" crap. Obama will be our nominee. Time to get onboard people.

[KingOfLostSouls]

36. great way to win support there

seriously, with people like you supporting obama, its a shocker he hasn't wrapped up the nomination yet.