Sorry, Hillary: You've crossed the line

[babylonsister]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2004280786_plunkhaun14.html

Sorry, Hillary: You've crossed the line

By Charles Pluckhahn

Special to The Times


Hillary Clinton, you sure don't make it easy.

Since 2005, I've written $7,100 worth of checks to the person I considered most qualified to be the junior senator from New York and, later, president of the United States. In February, I was elected a Clinton delegate in the neighborhood-level caucuses, and looked forward to trying to be appointed a delegate to the Democratic National Convention.

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Sen. Clinton, I can no longer count myself in your ranks. I've decided that, barring some stunning revelation, Barack Obama has earned the Democratic nomination, fair and square. More importantly, I've decided that your campaign's tactics have crossed a line that should never be crossed. I no longer want to be associated with your effort to become the Democratic nominee.

One of your surrogates, Geraldine Ferraro, has said that Obama wouldn't be where he is in the Democratic contest if he were white. When combined with your rejection of Obama's qualifications to be commander in chief, and your husband's disrespect for Obama's effort, I see an ugly undercurrent.

I grew up in white Milwaukee, which was very white indeed. But most of my heroes were black: Martin Luther King Jr., Hank Aaron, Bill Cosby, Ralph Ellison, Miles Davis and John Coltrane. When a kid, the sight of black people being mowed down with water hoses in Alabama made a Democrat out of me before I knew what a Democrat was.

Woe betide the politician, and especially the Democratic politician, who makes a racist appeal, no matter how artfully they think they've constructed it. When George Bush's campaign did it to Michael Dukakis in 1988, I expected it. That's what Republicans do.

When your campaign race-baits and disrespects Barack Obama in 2008, you can count me out. Democrats don't do that. We are better.

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[boston bean]

1. ooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Tellurian]

9. OTOH..

One of CNN’s pundits (a Dem) says he spoke to a GOP strategist who claims the Swiftboat ads (against Kerry) will look like Public Service ads next to what they’ve got to hit Obama with in the GE. Don’t think it takes a genius to figure out they’ll be running a lot of church video.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

19. So let's just lynch him now, right?

I mean. Better we behave like a pack of knuckle-dragging racists now rather than let the Republicans have all the fun.

Am I right?

[babylonsister]

22. Wow. I don't know what 'ignored' said, but it must have been ugly.

Thus the ignore.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

25. The tired old logic...

That we should stoop to race-baiting in the Primaries because that's what the Republicans will do in the General Election. There's a reason that I'm a Democrat -- because we don't behave that way.

[babylonsister]

26. Fer gawds sakes... thanks. Wasn't the whole article about how

turned off the Clinton supporter was because of the baiting? Oye!

[hueyshort]

60. Obamites can't stay away from that mud.

[MzShellG]

48. I wonder why some on here were so outraged by the strange fruit post?

Maybe it struck a nerve, as does Rev. Wright.

[krkaufman]

34. Yes, let's base our choice on our fear of what the Rethugs might say

I so think that GOP strategists are the sort to put faith in.

chortle.

[mahina]

38. I bet that will confuse the 'muslim' message.

[TomBall Democrat]

44. So Hillary won't have them going negative?

Is that your point?

I am so over the sexual misbehavior of her husband. Do you think they won't drag that up again?

And what about Vince Foster, Whitewater, Rose Law Firm, her previous failures with health care, the sexual innuendo about her and him?

Failure to release her tax returns?

Flip flopping on the war, the primary rules,.....


Please, if that is the reason to vote for her - fear of them going negative.

I see far more ammo against her. And the we've heard it before doesn't float my boat.

It cost Al Gore the election. It will cost us the election if she's the candidate.

I don't know that I'd vote for her - her behavior in this campaign has cost her my respect.

[Mr Dirty]

54. Totally Agree

Upcoming Swiftie commercials:

1) Obama spiritual advisor asking God to damn America (with a few of his other racists statements thrown in)

2) Michelle Obama proclaiming that she had never been proud of America

3) Obama doing cocaine/drugs as a young man (admitted usage), while John McCain is going to the Naval Academy

4) Rezko real estate deal and campaign contributions

5) Samantha Power admitting that an end to the Iraq war in 2009 is just campaign talk

6) whatever else is discovered about this unvetted candidate in the next few months

Anyone who doesn't see this coming probably doesn't have much experience with how general elections go and is relying on hope a bit too much. Heck, I wouldn't even be surprised if the Swifties bring up Willie Horton somehow.

[oasis]

57. Well put. Welcome to DU, Mr. Dirty.

:hi:

[Mr Dirty]

59. Thx

I really wanted to use 'Mr Clean' as my name, but someone else already took it here. Anyways, I've been working in the yard all day, so maybe 'Mr Dirty' fits.

[polpilot]

56. When Obama's the nominee they'll just be 'running'!!

[LaurenG]

2. K & R

nt

[sniffa]

3. Clinton crossed that line long ago, but she's outpaced that line by leaps and bounds

K&R

[KittyWampus]

5. but has she crossed the CIC threshold?

[krkaufman]

35. Yes, the George W Bush Commander-in-Chief threshold ...

... calling for preemptive war against hypothetical threats. Inarguably so.

[Mme. Defarge]

4. K & R!

[Swamp Rat]

6. Bad campaign decisions have really hurt her.

[sueragingroz]

7. we know... she's a bitch... yaddayaddayadda

[babylonsister]

10. This guy was a Clinton delegate, and that's not what he said. Try reading. nt

[sueragingroz]

13. try reading my other posts... this is a meme... /nt

[Me.]

8. She Should Have Never Listened To Penn

"Woe betide the politician, and especially the Democratic politician, who makes a racist appeal, no matter how artfully they think they've constructed it."

[Cha]

16. Who said that, Me?

Potent words.

[Me.]

17. It's In The Article, 8 Paragraphs Down (not counting first line)

:hi:

[Cha]

23. Oh yeah, I skipped over that too fast!

"Woe betide the politician, and especially the Democratic politician, who makes a racist appeal, no matter how artfully they think they've constructed it." And just how unartfully worded have the clintons been and their surrogates who've had to resign?

Words that should be carved in stone and should have been heeded by the expensive mr mark penn.

Thanks for highlighting them in your post, Me. :hi:

[tabasco]

11. Hillary's rotten "kitchen sink" strategy is contemptable.

Rarely has a Democratic candidate sunk to such low moral and ethical behavior.

Shame on you, Hillary!

[Cha]

15. I imagine a history buff could

tell us when a Dem has acted with such self degradation in a primary?

[Nitrogenica]

12. FOX/Rush and swift boating has not helped her.

The first smears I heard were it for me, I was done with her.

The right wing smears against Liberals we've all had to endure over the last few years resemble her campaign way, way too much.

Save it for McSame, please.

[Cha]

14. Charles Pluckhahn is very

respectful of hilary clinton which is more than I have for the Jr. Senator from New York.

mark penn and hilary, no doubt, calculated how many they would lose by leapfrogging over the line and decided it was worth it. Blowback from miscalculations can lose elections.

[meow mix]

18. burrrrn. haha she deserves it shes a f&%^ing wretch

hate her

[Megahurtz]

20. Yes! Well said!

:applause:

[Major Hogwash]

21. Hillary is a Democrat, as far as I know.

There have already been dozens of political cartoons drawn of Hillary making that very point.

It's a shame she had to be such a sham.

[TomBall Democrat]

47. Her weakest moment

That lame "as far as I know".

Seriously, I think that was the moment she lost me for good.

It was shameless behavior. Whatever it takes is not the motto of the Democratic Party.


What's that line from U2 song -

something about becoming the monster so the monster will not claim you.

Perhaps those years embattled with the right eroded her moral center.

[OhioChick]

24. K&R

:kick:

[VotesForWomen]

27. his heros were all male... gee, wasn't there a single woman worth admiring? just asking. nt

[babylonsister]

28. Besides his wife? Why yes, yes there was, and here's a great story

from the NYT's today if you care to read all about it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5073944&mesg_id=5073944

[CitizenLeft]

43. what a magnificent tribute to his mother

Sometimes I'm perplexed at people who hurl "sexist!" at Obama, considering the two very strong women in his life, his mother and his wife. How can you call anyone a sexist who is married to Michelle Obama? I don't get that.

I have yet to read either of his books, but they're both on my "must do" list before the summer's out.

[IowaGirl]

39. Good question!!

[donheld]

29. K & R

Thanks for posting

[SunsetDreams]

30. Geez

Probably more like that

[Usrename]

31. I hear she's just getting warmed up!

And she's really starting to have fun!

[catgirl]

32. The list grows

If only these people saw the real Hillary sooner, we might be in the
general election mode already.

[southern_belle]

33. K & R Yea!!!!!!!

[Bake]

36. Ferraro? Ferraro? Who's that?

I haven't heard that name on the news in a few days! Seems they're all takling about some guy named Wright ...

Bake

[TomBall Democrat]

50. Ferraro?

Wasn't she that poorly qualified candidate for VP?

Got the nomination based on her ability to create estrogen?

Didn't seem like a good reason to vote for her then, and guess what?

IT'S STILL A BAD IDEA.

Get over the because she's a woman.

This 50 year old woman has - it's about the candidate - not their biochemistry. Or their pastor's bigotry, either.

[Flabbergasted]

37. kick

[mhoran]

40. Thank you!

Thoughtful and non-inflammatory. Here's to the revival of reasoned discourse!

[QC]

41. OMG1!! SHE'S LOST CHARLES PLUCKHAHN!!!11 THIS IS HUGH!!1!!

She might as well drown herself right now!!!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

42. So Far, He's Earned Nothing.

This guy really needs to learn the process. What an ignoramus.

[TomBall Democrat]

51. Goodbye.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

52. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

Best. Making. Of an ignore list. Ever.

Thanks!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[emilyg]

45. Tiresome. blah-blah.

[sniffa]

46. go away

[emilyg]

53. Stop following me.

[sniffa]

55. go away

[emilyg]

58. Grow up. Ignore.

[sniffa]

61. go away

[greyghost]

49. Agreed