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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:47 PM
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"I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen."


" . . . Rev. Wright's statements have pained and angered me . . . "
Senator Obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html







Mr. Wright, who has long prided himself on criticizing the establishment, said he knew that he may not play well in Mr. Obama’s audition for the ultimate establishment job.

“If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=all




Yeah, that might have to happen. It's time for the pain and anger act?

It's just better that it happen BEFORE the shit hits the fan. Doesn't say much for his planning and execution skills, even in a conspiracy of two.

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:49 PM
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1. Gee, I guess that "distancing" is completely sincere
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 06:50 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:56 PM
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13. Voters won't fall for it. This will only help with those already for Obama
You can't erase 20 years of supporting someone by denouncing him after being politically forced to do so. Anyone want Wright in the Oval Office giving advice? He is Obama's mentor and spiritual guiding light. This is who we want to guide our next president? :scared:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:49 PM
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2. Bush did that with Falwell, Robertson etc
remember that compassionate conservative shit
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:49 PM
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3. "pain and anger act"...um sorry I'm going to have to ignore you now.
Goodbye.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:50 PM
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4. It Hurt When I Read This Quote Earlier. It Can Totally Nullify Any Obama Defense.
I think we're not truly gonna know how this is all going to play out until the GE is in full swing, and that bothers me a bit. I hate risks, especially with as important as November is...
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:53 PM
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6. Notice that Drudge treated Wright the same as pedophile Foley in '06
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 06:55 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Whne Drudge goes days without even mentioning a natural juicy Drudge story, there's a reason.

This Wright flap is a Sean Hannity FOX News production that is off-message as far as the RNC is concerned.

They were waiting.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:54 PM
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10. I really disagree.
Obama has been on record in the past about these statements so today's remarks are nothing new.

You're implying that Obama should have held a conference months ago to say that he's had a falling out with Wright and he's publicly denouncing him.

The man was retiring. Honestly, the fact that Obama told the man to his face that he would have to separate himself because of the man's statements tells me that Obama truly had a problem with the statements.

Just my take.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:51 PM
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5. What?
The words didn't just now pain and anger him... he just now was forced to publicly talk about those thoughts and feelings.

Unlike Hillary, who changed her tune about Ferraro's BS in the span of two days.

Nice try though, really.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:53 PM
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7. and you know that how? You sure have been doing a lot of
contortions to excuse this shit.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:54 PM
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8. The candidate mind-reading thing is a feature of the O cohort
Part of being all things to all people is that everyone "knows" what you think on every topic.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:55 PM
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12. Well all of Hillary's most vocal defenders here "knew"
that she really didn't mean for Ferraro to be going around inciting people like she was.

That's not even based on logic / deductive reasoning. That's just denial.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:57 PM
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14. Because we knew she said the same thing in 1988. Did Hillary make her say that then?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:59 PM
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17. long-range planning...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:05 PM
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20. Why did Hillary tolerate it for so long?
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 07:05 PM by redqueen
Why did she hire her if she knew it was possible? She'd already admitted Bill's comments were wrongheaded.

:shrug:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:11 PM
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26. Do you think they research every statement made by a supporter?
This isn't the veep selection process. It isn't as if she knew her intimately like...

She tolerated it for the same reason Obama let the Clintons get swiftboated as racist for 1-2 weeks and did nothing: political gain. The difference is Clinton put an end to it after two days. Obama never did.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:16 PM
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29. Clinton put an end to it after she was forced to do so.
I'd wager if the public outcry hadn't been so loud, she wouldn't have done it.

I used to agree with you about why Obama didn't come out against the charges of racism. Now I think I see why he didn't. His campaig's strategy might have been to let them have enough rope, and her campaign finally hung itself with it. If that's the case, then that's fantastic political insight by his campaign - which sadly Hillary's team is direly in need of.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:12 PM
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27. They don't research every statement ever made by every supporter
This isn't the veep selection process. It isn't as if she knew her intimately like...

She tolerated it for the same reason Obama let the Clintons get swiftboated as racist for 1-2 weeks and did nothing: political gain. The difference is Clinton put an end to it after two days. Obama never did.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:58 PM
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16. No, based on her comments being made to the world's smallest paper in CA, which had voted already
and those comments not even being published for nine days after the interview.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:06 PM
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21. Obviously I'm talking about what went on after it hit the cable news shows.
And by that I mean - no decisive comments from Hillary.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:58 PM
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15. Yup. They also think everyone else views him as they do
For them Obama issues a token statement against Wright and all is right with the world. That won't be the case with many voters who will see through the fake politician denunciation and compare it to his actions over two decades, which are in stark contrast to his public rhetoric about "unity" and "getting beyond" race.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:07 PM
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24. Have you already seen him on Olbermann?
Or whatever other shows he's going to be on tonight, dealing with this issue?

You know, in precisely the way Hillary didn't deal with the Ferraro business?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:18 PM
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30. You mean like Trent Lott did?
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 07:18 PM by jackson_dem
Everyone saw through Lott's fake apologies and denunciations except the true believers. The same will be the case with Obama. The real question I think isn't whether people by his fake comment but whether they associate Obama with Wright in the first place. I think enough voters already have and many others will when the rethugs swiftboat him as racist. That will be enough to end any chances Obama has of winning.

Obama supporters keep conflating Ferraro with Wright. Is Ferraro Hillary's mentor? Is she Hillary's spiritual guiding light? Does she go to Ferraro for policy advice? Ferraro is one of hundreds of politicians supporting a national campaign. Wright is arguably the second most important person in Barack Obama's life right now.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:54 PM
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9. Logic / deductive reasoning. No contortions required. (nt)
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 06:54 PM by redqueen
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:55 PM
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11. Two friends with a difference of opinion working things out.
pretty sad that the sick among us cannot see it for what it is. Pretty sad when democrats fry their own to score some cheap political points.
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Johnny Potpie Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:00 PM
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19. It's wrong
To fry Obama, for things people around him are saying. Obama has said he doesn't agree with the statements. I don't know why people in our own party are doing this to our eventaul nominee. It's disgusting. :mad:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:00 PM
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18. "fall for it"? huh?
...meaning what exactly?

Voters get it.

Voters have bigoted family, who they tolerate because they're family.

Once again, show of hands...how many have one bigot in your family?

Now, does that make you a bigot?
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:07 PM
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22. He said that he was pained and angered a year ago
When he first found out about the statements. He is not claiming to have first found out today. The pain and anger probably happened before the conversation you reference.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:07 PM
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23. Note that Keith Olbermann and Alter will not mention that 'might have to happen quote'.

Figgers.

NBC,

:grr:

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:10 PM
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25. I love how we have all these fortune tellers around here...
PM me the lotto numbers when you get a chance please?

I'll split the winnings with ya!
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:15 PM
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28. You will note that they did not mention it. Now talking to Obama Keith won't mention it either.

The fix is in.

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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:19 PM
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31. He knew he had to distance himself because of farrakhan
not this crap
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