Question for all of those who intend on voting Green

[Hippo_Tron]

Aren't you the least bit concerned about Bush's judicial nominees? You know full well that Rove v Wade hangs in a balance of 5 to 4 and that the retirement or death of one liberal or swing justice will mean that Bush gets to appoint a pro-lifer. As much as you dislike Kerry couldn't you put up with him for four-eight years to insure protection of a woman's right to choose for the next 30 years or more?

[Christ was Socialist]

1. Well the greens support it

so support thier canidate. Everyone here is so authoratarian leaning. I never hear lets vote for your canidate, but our noinee is the answer. Some voters have a conscious to deal with about the war/enviroment amongst other issues. This is usually a benign feature limited to the left, as the right uses it as an oppressive stance. The party had a solid chance at winning the support of many in the left with dean, but the voters showed thier disregard again. Huffington was wrong, when your house is on fire, you can rebuild in another location. The conscious is a powerful thing, as well as the intellect and ideals. Bush appeals to his base and the far right, whil ewe on the left are treated as the scum of the party/spectrum by moderates and conservative dems.

[JI7]

2. many who support Kerry are left wing

[Hippo_Tron]

3. But YOUR CANDIDATE CAN'T WIN

And thus can't appoint pro-choice judicial nominees. I think that if you seriously care about a woman's right to choose, your only choice is John Kerry because he is the only pro-choice candidate who can win. Do I wish there were 5 pro-choice candidates who all had a chance of winning? Yes, because it would show that the majority opinion in this country is that government should legislate on abortion. But the fact is that we have a two party system. And when the government is on the verge of taking away our civil liberties it's not the time to try and create a multiparty system.

[Christ was Socialist]

4. self defeating

And I come from a long line of that. Its the same line, the people want one thing, and when an opprutunity comes along, "it can't"
So does the 2 party state or america in general ever change? or do you just follow the line because...

[Christ was Socialist]

5. by the way i'm not a green

i've been researching still and i'm dying for kerry to get me to swing. Right now Walter F brown (S) is looking good. But I'm reaching for kerry if he can prove he cares about the far left.

[Hippo_Tron]

11. Look at his voting record...

Nobody has a sudden change of ideological beliefs like he has. He's casted these recent votes to the right because it's the only way to beat the Republican machine who have scared the living shit out of Americans. There are many people who still believe that if we hadn't invaded Iraq that Saadam would've given WMD's to Al-Quaeda and they would've used them in terroist attacks on the US. That's how much the Republicans have fucked up this country.

[ludo]

12. I have to agree

Whether one agrees with him or not isn't the issue, IMHO. A vote for anyone but Kerry is a vote for Bush, and can we take 4 more years of Bush? Me and my fixed income say 'no'. That's another soapbox. Vote Green and you might as well be voting for BushCo.

[newyawker99]

18. Hi ludo!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[ClintonTyree]

10. Not while the house..........

is burning. Sure, you can relocate. First, make sure the fire is out. That means getting Bush out of the White House. After the fire is out, build your new house wherever you please. However, make sure the damn fire's out. Simply put, get rid of Bush THEN reorganize the Democratic house.

[krkaufman]

15. Sorry for taking the analogy so literally, but....

Huffington was wrong, when your house is on fire, you can rebuild in another location.

Umm... while the house is on fire... you *DO* try to put it out, so as not to lose the house -- and also to prevent the fire from spreading to neighboring houses. Failing to put the fire out will result in the house burning down, leaving nothing but a charred hulk of what once was, and the loss of precious family heirlooms and papers. Paper is such a flammable thing, moreso the older it is.

What say we form a bucket brigade to put this fire out, eh?

p.s. Wouldn't "rebuild in another location" imply moving to another country?

[HooptieWagon]

6. The country can't move left

without passing through the middle. Anyone voting Green, Independant, Socialist, or Progressive is in effect voting for four more years of BushCo. Can you take it? Can the country take it?

[Hippo_Tron]

8. Four more years of Bush could mean the end of American freedoms...

I can't take that chance. Even if John Kerry proves to be the most ineffective president in history (which I don't think he will), at least he won't take away my civil liberties.

[corporatewhore]

7. i live in texas but still kerry supports anti choice aswell

I am Pro Choice because i want control and autonomy over my own god damn body. NAFTA is anti choice to other women around the globe.NAFTA/WTO has robbed women of their own self determination and autonomy.Corporations are fundmental extremists.
I dunno if i lived in a swing state i would probably throw up in the booth and then take ten showers

[Hippo_Tron]

9. If Rove v Wade is overturned...

Then you can forget about the possibility of spreading a woman's right to choose to third world countries.

[corporatewhore]

13. i realize that but i also realise he is anti choice

(in the way i stated above) as well that said i live in texas and am free to vote for whoever i want

[Hippo_Tron]

14. True true...

Texas is going Republican so it doesn't really matter. But in principle, baby steps in the right direction is still better than giant leaps in the wrong direction.

[krkaufman]

16. Guts?

Zapatero did what 90+% of his population wanted. How is that gutsy? It's simply following the rather clearly-defined will of the people.

Ours is a more confused, blinded, m-f-ing ignert electorate.

p.s. Keep hunting for the perfect candidate, and you'll find we've elected a perfectly bad candidate.

[Hippo_Tron]

17. Edit: I now realize that I made the typo Rove v Wade...

But unfortunately it's too late to edit it. It's late at night and I'm not paying attention to what I'm typing.