demdave
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:07 PM
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Kerry claims to have thrown his own medals |
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In an interview published Friday in the LOS ANGELES TIMES, Dem presidential hopeful John Kerry claimed he "never ever implied" that he threw his own medals on the Hill in 1971 to appear as an antiwar hero -- but a new shock video shows John Kerry -- in his own voice -- saying he did!
ABC's GOOD MORNING AMERICA is set to rock the political world Monday morning with an airing of Kerry's 1971 boast, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:11 PM
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1. it doesn't matter anyway |
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the media, nader supporters, so-called progressive dems will do everything in their power to see that bush wins
I only hope in bush's second term these repugs have the opportunity to serve in Iraq...
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:28 PM
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9. "progressive Dems" WANT Kerry to win |
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I am literally a "Wellstone Democrat" who joined the party in 1988 because of Paul Wellstone's enthusiasm, inspiration and help on a local campaign.
I am also a diehard Kucinich supporter, and will be until the convention is finished.
Because of my utter disappointment in Clinton/Gore, I voted for Nader and the Green Party TWICE-- in 1996 and 2000.
This year I want KERRY TO WIN. And my vote for him will bring him that much closer.
Please do not assume so-called progressive Democrats will not support Kerry this fall. We WILL vote for him; however, we will also be pressuring him from the left to stay true to the heart and soul of this party and the values we champion-- both during the election, and after he wins on November 2.
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:44 PM
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12. That was irresponsible |
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How dare you spout off such mindless, reactionary, slander, toward Progressive democrats. Not only are we doing everything within our power *not* to let Bush win, but we are doing everything within our power, *not* to let the democratic establishment *let* Bush win by pandering to the right again. We are the throbbing heart and soul of this party. This is a party which would be nothing but a hollow corpse were it not for our innovation, perspiration, and inspiration. It is also a very ungrateful and, sometimes, hostile, party, and we often feel like we're trying to give the cat a bath (you'd know what I mean if you've ever bathed a cat), but that isn't stopping us.
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Sun Apr-25-04 06:25 PM
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16. Pretty audacious coming from a political party... |
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who are trying to attract voters to their candidate, no? I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment expressed by the two individuals above, I am a die-hard Kucinich supporter as well, and do not toe ANY party line. I think that the witch hunt Democrats need to focus on party building, and not pointing fingers at Progressive Democrats, but this is just one man's opinion.
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:11 PM
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:13 PM
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People are concerned about jobs, health care, and our President lying about the reason for invading a county preemptively. What a 27 year old did or didn't do while our President was likely doing cocaine while AWOL, is irrelevant to me and I am sure most Americans.
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:18 PM
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4. You really ought to lay off that Kool-Aid. |
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Waiting for actual non-Drudge link....
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:22 PM
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5. What Kerry Needs to Do |
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I saw a post somewhere in the last couple of days that said this and it has been lurking in my mind ...
Why is Kerry letting these Vietnam record issues put him on the defensive? Why doensn't he, John Kerry, himself, not some surrogate, come right out and say that all of this is nothing but smears coming from Bush and Cheney who never got a scratch fighting for their country! They never even had ANY medals or ribbons to throw over the White House fence! They were not only missing from the fight in Vietnam, they were missing from the great debate on war and peace in this country in the 60s and 70s.
Kerry really needs to get more aggressive HIMSELF. He needs to clearly differentiate himself from Bush on the Vietnam war and on the Iraq war. Kerry is for peace and prosperity .... Bush and Cheney are slackers for war.
As the reports on www.earthside.com show, things are going bad in Iraq and they are not going to get better. Kerry needs to be on the right side of this issue. Promising more troops and "winning" (whatever that means) is not going to win Kerry the election.
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:31 PM
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11. He needs to be more strategic in defining himself and Bush |
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Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 05:31 PM by Democat
They don't seem to have a real strong plan or great talking points.
Bush is effective by repeating the same phrases over and over again - the Democratic party and Kerry need to learn to do the same thing.
It sucks that so many American people can be taught to believe something by simple repition, but it's become a fact. We need to work within that fact and start defining Kerry and Bush the way we want them defined, not allow the right wing to spread their lies so easily.
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:22 PM
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6. What did Bush do with his medals? |
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:44 PM
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get any for nosebleeds and hangovers....
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:26 PM
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7. 33 years ago, Kerry throw his medals. While Bush just threw up. |
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Trashing Vietnam vets like Kerry or Max Cleland, especially by waste-pants like Drudge, is about as vile as this cynical age gets.
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:27 PM
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about as important as the Michael Jackson and Kobe Bryant cases.
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:30 PM
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10. Isn't it great how Republicans are able to debate about the ISSUES? |
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And not meaningless crap like this? Ha. Haha.
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Sun Apr-25-04 05:59 PM
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14. he fuck`n earned them |
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he can do anything he wants to with them...i could care less.maybe they suould ask bush where his medals are..
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Sun Apr-25-04 06:07 PM
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15. i just got the copy of the magazine |
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"proceedings" the naval institute`s publication. it has an q&a with the author of a book about kerry. positive to say the least...if you ever run across this mag on a news stand, thumb thru it, you maybe surprised at some of the opinions on the direction of the navy and marines in the future of warfare.
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Sun Apr-25-04 07:09 PM
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17. I've read all of the posts, and everyone seems to be missing |
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the point. kerry FLIP/FLOPS. the SUV deal, the taxes, releasing his military records. man who the hell is running his campaign, they need to get their shit together.
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Sun Apr-25-04 07:43 PM
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18. Don't ask me, I came with Dean. |
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Kerry is lucky that progressives are pulling for him. There's no chance in hell he can win with his weak-ass whisper of a campaign, alone.
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Sun Apr-25-04 08:17 PM
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And while I wish Kerry would do a better job of sticking to one position, the Republicans can't use this as a valid attack because Bush has changed so many positions and broken so many promises while in office.
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Sun Apr-25-04 11:08 PM
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20. Kerry needs to come out fast against this and state that he was a young... |
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man that didn'realize what he was doing. Like it or not, he needs to get this reputation as a flip flopper behind him and come out swinging with what he really believes. he needs to lay out his ideas and if the American people don;t agree, so be it. But I think the American people would actually flock to him if he just told them what he really thinks. Instead of what he thinks they want to here.
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Sun Apr-25-04 11:52 PM
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21. Kerry needs to ignore these morons unless it becomes a real issue |
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Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 11:52 PM by Democat
A few idiots yelling on talk radio is not enough reason for Kerry to issue a statement - if he issued a statement every time a bunch of morons cried on talk radio, he'd destroy all the world's forests in a week.
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Mon Apr-26-04 01:44 AM
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22. This isn't talk radio anymore. This is ABC, a network program. A lot of |
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people watch that show. This is not good. Kerry for the love of your party, start telling the truth.
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Mon Apr-26-04 01:54 AM
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Mon Apr-26-04 02:00 AM
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24. Of course I am, and at this moment, Kerry is that standard bearer for our |
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party. I want him to come out swinging against Bush and stomp him down. But shit like this is putting him on the defensive and focusing attention on Kerry's flip/flops rather than the disaster Bush has created.
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Mon Apr-26-04 09:06 AM
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25. too late, he would be contradicting himself AGAIN |
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Mon Apr-26-04 09:44 AM
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26. This was a FLIP-FLOP??? |
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A contradiction over a THIRTY-THREE year time span is understandable. I'm sure many of my recollections or versions of events or statements now would contradict those of thirty-three years ago.
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