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Sat Mar-15-08 03:51 PM
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Pope Condemns American Capitalism |
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Pope John Paul calls for a "Path to Solidarity". He condemns the "unbridled greed for wealth and power" and America's capitalist institutions of globalization that are "based on a purely economic conception of man" and considers "profit and the law of the market as its only parameters." http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_jp-ii_exh_22011999_ecclesia-in-america_en.htmlSHOCKING!!!
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:54 PM
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1. Another hater of America that must be condemned by all red blooded Americans! |
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:54 PM
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2. Wow. I'm glad they said it. The neocon version of economics does |
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ignore mankind in all its facets.
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:55 PM
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3. This from the Pope who wears Prada |
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and other designer robes. :eyes:
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:57 PM
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you are obviously not Catholic... that is from the previous pope... the new one pimps the prada. |
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Sun Mar-16-08 02:25 PM
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39. I'm a Former Catholic |
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I became a Wiccan in 1987.
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:55 PM
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:56 PM
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5. If he had his way, we would all be serfs in a theocracy under him. |
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Anyway, isn't JP2 kinda sorta dead?
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:57 PM
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6. THAT POPE IS DEAD AND HAS BEEN FOR A WHILE. HOW OLD IS THIS? |
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:58 PM
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8. Makes no difference to Catholics n/t |
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:58 PM
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11. actually, it does... thanks. |
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Dont tell me about my own religion.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:00 PM
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And Catholics care a whole lot more about what Pope John Paul said than the nutball we've got now.
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:07 PM
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22. Mine too and I still care about Pope John Paul II's words. |
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Because, unlike the current Pope, I respect and admire John Paul.
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:57 PM
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7. Couldn't find anything from this century? |
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:58 PM
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Sat Mar-15-08 03:58 PM
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10. Sean Hannity must CONDEMN and REPUDIATE the Pope |
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On his show on Monday. How can he worship in a church headed by such anti-American zealots?
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:03 PM
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14. I'd like to hear the Pope give Hannity's show a call... |
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Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 04:05 PM by bhikkhu
He wouldn't last a minute or even finish a sentence.
on edit - that's meant to say what a worthless manipulating hateful hypocrite Hannity is, and how phony and manipulated his "debates" are.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:18 PM
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and where are all the Wright condemners now???
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:01 PM
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the current pope is a hardliner and wouldn't say that.
Anyway, who gives a damn what the Pope thinks anyway??
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:06 PM
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16. "who gives a damn what the Pope thinks anyway?" ClintonBots now hate all Catholics |
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Sun Mar-16-08 01:06 PM
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38. The Pope = all Catholics? What a bigoted thing to say! |
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I suppose G.W. Bush = all Americans.
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Sun Mar-16-08 09:48 PM
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40. I would have used the "sarcasm" icon |
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except I forgot. .. and there's no "overstatement" icon, which would be much more apt for my post.
There you have it. But at least I gave you an opportunity to accuse someone of being a "bigot", so maybe that's an upside for you at least.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:04 PM
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15. Do we need to start rounding up all the America-hating Catholics now? |
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and make sure than NO one who has ever been to a Catholic church run for public office?
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:48 PM
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18. When was this written? |
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This is from the previous Pope.
But I did hear on the BBC the other day that the Vatican has come out with new mortal sins - including amassing great wealth. I haven't read a thing about that anywhere.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:48 PM
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19. America's capitalist institutions of globalization? |
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How about the globe's capitalist institution of globalization?
Naw, blame it all on the Yanks. Yeah, that works better.
I don't listen to living Popes, much less dead ones. In fact, I don't listen to anyone who believes in invisible friends who live in the sky. lol
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:03 PM
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20. Where the hell was the Vatican eight years ago on this greed factor? |
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They've only been around for a couple of millenium, and they didn't see this coming?
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:10 PM
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24. This was several years ago |
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I guess the reason you didn't know the Church has always opposed American style capitalism is because our media never reports it. Just like they didn't report when the Vatican condemned Saddam's execution, or Israel's attack on Lebanon, etc. It's okay for the white Catholic Church to criticize the US, but not a black pastor.
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Sat Mar-15-08 08:46 PM
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34. I've always known that capitalist-minded, work-ethic oriented protestants |
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have always had a dislike for the good-works oriented and protect-the-poor, socialist-minded Catholic philosophy. Now, I could take time and unravel that, but I think if you say it three times, it will begin to sink in.
What I don't understand, is why the Catholic Americans allowed the protestant-Republicans to sucker them in under the all encompassing umbrella of Christianity, when what they were really doing was selling Republican capitalist policies.
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:06 PM
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21. This post is shocking - the zombie pope lives! |
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John Paul II speaks from the grave. Does this mean there's no longer a heaven or hell?
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:34 PM
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33. Souls. Brains. Souls. Brains... n/t |
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:10 PM
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23. There's nothing quite like one of the Popes lecturing on wealth. |
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Sell off part of the Vatican art collection and feed the hungry.
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:11 PM
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25. Rev Wright has no wealth? |
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I kind of thought he was doing okay for himself. This is a post comparing the outrage against Wright's statements against the lack of outrage at similar statements by the Vatican.
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:15 PM
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27. Given the responses you're getting, you didn't exactly make that clear. nt |
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:17 PM
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:14 PM
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26. Maybe if he hadn't collaborated so much with this system against the Soviet Union, it wouldnt have.. |
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been possible for for this system to become so unbridled.
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:16 PM
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This thread isn't about the Pope, it's about the hypocrisy.
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:20 PM
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31. Sorry, but I see hypocrisy when a man helps kill socialism and then complains about capitalism |
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Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 05:21 PM by JVS
WTF did he think the coldwar was about?
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:28 PM
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Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 05:18 PM by sparosnare
Such horrible things to say about this country. :eyes:
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Sat Mar-15-08 08:46 PM
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35. that was the last pope |
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Sun Mar-16-08 09:32 AM
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36. I like the Francis-of-Assissi Catholics a whole let better than the |
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Sun Mar-16-08 09:36 AM
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37. Yeah, that's just how Wright put it. |
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