Kerry-To-DU Dictionary

[mr715]

Kerry-to-Reactionary Translator:


Kerry : "We will increase the number of troops in my administration"

Meaning : "Soldiers will be paid more and have more incentives."

Reactionary Translation : "DRAFT! I'm just like Bush!"


Kerry : "We can't cut and run."

Meaning : "We won't allow Iraq to become another Afghanistan."

Reactionary Translation : "I can't wait to kill more American kids. I'm not Kucinich so I must be like Bush!"


Kerry : "The terrorists will lose no matter who wins."

Meaning : "Americans will not tolerate another attack and both Bush and I don't want to see another attack."

Reactionary Translation : "I'm voting for Bush because he's tougher than me on terrorism!"


Kerry : "I'm a democrat."

Meaning : "I'm a democrat."

Reactionary Translation : "I'm a Republican."


Kerry : "I'm a liberal."

Meaning : "I'm a liberal with a more consistent voting record than Kucinich and much more liberal than Howard Dean."

Reactionary Translation : "BUSH LITE!!!"


Lord almighty.


Matt

[BlueEyedSon]

1. LMFAO

[Goldmund]

2. "I'm a liberal."

When did Kerry actually say that?

[ACK]

6. Jan 26, 2004

“If the worst thing they can say about me is that I’m a liberal, well, then, bring it on,” Kerry said.

[Goldmund]

7. thanks

[mr715]

8. Also

Also, following his wins in Iowa and New Hampshire, he said something to the effect of

"If wanting better schools makes me a liberal, then yeah, I am a liberal."

[wryter2000]

3. You hit the nail on the head

:yourock:

[Caution]

4. bwahahaha thanks for that n/t

[Nashyra]

5. Amazing

so few post but has the DU dictionairy down pat. Wish I was so quick at over a thousand post. Doesn't sound like the dictionairy I have been reading.

[sandnsea]

9. Hahaha! Thanks! Awesome!

That about sums it up!

[Feanorcurufinwe]

10. Yep

that sums it up.

[ACK]

11. Kerry's record and ranking

Search around on the same site for both Clinton and Gore.

http://www.issues2000.org/John_Kerry.htm

Am I saying that Kerry is the second coming? No.

Am I going to vote for him and have confidence in him being better than Bush? Yes.


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[RobertSeattle]

12. Outstanding

Kerry: At first President News Conference announces cure to Cancer
RW Reaction: Cheap political stunt

[apnu]

13. Brilliant! n/t

[hippiegranny]

14. good one, matt

i like to keep in context that the du dictionary is a lexicon not always based in reality with the huge percentage of "dems in the street." there are people here that remind me of the type of fundy who micro-asesses each word in the bible to come up with an a-ha! that allows them to go off on a tangent that legitimizes some deeply held long standing bias.

kerry is a liberal. he is also trying to overcome the tide of sheepish ignorance that has befallen this country. it isn't going to happen overnight. if dean and clark can get behind kerry and speak on his behalf instead of against him, i don't see why it is too much to expect people here, who only a year ago agreed they would vote for a ham sandwich over bu$h, to get a grip and quit their petty bitching. sure, i understand it was easier when they thought THEIR ham sandwich was gonna be the candidate, but geeeez, enough already.

i agree there are times when i think something should be said or done differently. those are the times i write the kerry campaign with my suggestions instead of fostering more brooding discontent here against the LAST PHUCKING chance we might ever get to rid the nation of the BFEE. dramatic? maybe. i would hate to be proven correct just like we all were about the middle east blowback that is occuring pretty much as we predicted.

[pezcore64]

15. yay

way to get those swing voters who have doubts!
by bashing them!

WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT??!
ITS BRILLIANT!

[mr715]

17. Ahem

Reactionary liberals are not swing voters. They are self righteous college students that say they will vote, but end up staying home instead and watch TV.

Why didn't Nader get the 5% he was polling? Because 20% of Nader's support came from idealistic, academic, ivory tower college students who are looking for a cause but arent willing to do one iota of work towards it.

I am an ivory tower college student, and I hate the "two parties are the same" stuff because they are not. To claim they are is the same as claiming that the war in Iraq was to stop terrorism; it is a lie, and all lies are equally untrue.

Simply because one candidate addresses reality and the other democrats go for pie-in-the-sky idealism does not make the realist the same as Bush. It makes him pragmatic.

There are objective truths in the world. For example, we are going to be in Iraq for a long time. Bush made that mistake. To remove our troops now would result in perhaps the most fatal mistake in American history.

There are three parties now. The voting public is a 50-49-1 plurality. 50% of us this Bush is a great president. 49% of us think hes doing awful. 1% think that we need a revolution because they have a nebulous notion of inequity and guilt brought on by their own prosperity.

Humbly submitted. Those of you that want a revolution that will alter the course of American Capitalist Democracy... do us all a favor and vote for Bush. Nader and his ilk won't win, so if you want to ruin the greatest government in the world, at least vote in a way such that you can say you directly took part in ruining the world's first experiment in self government.

I am a democrat. I like America. Capitalism works.


Matt

[Tarheel_Dem]

18. Matt....

you are on fire, dude!!!!!!!!!!! btw, welcome to DU :hi:

[mr715]

19. Hey

Thank you kindly, bud.

[mitchum]

16. LOL!!! Good work!

[info being]

20. Some of us don't believe everything a candidate says

The ONLY way to listen to a candidate is to translate in a "reactionary" way...as you've described. The only thing that matters is what a candidate has actually DONE. When Kerry voted for war and voted for the Patriot Act...let's just say it gives a lot of people license to be a little "reactionary."

[Feanorcurufinwe]

21. You substitute your own version of events for reality?

OK.

[info being]

23. Obviously examples are needed

[Feanorcurufinwe]

25. What are you talking about?

You just said: "The ONLY way to listen to a candidate is to translate"

you said it, not me. You reserve the right to 'translate' what people say into what you want it to mean -- OK. If you want to provide an example, fine.

[Name removed]

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[LoZoccolo]

30. My "reactionary" take on your post.

You're a Nader supporter who's hoping that George Bush is elected so that the country collapses so radicals can take over!

:eyes:

[blondeatlast]

44. This is getting good, but if someone who doesn't read

ALL the posts picks up on it, we could all be tombstoned by tomorrow evening!

[ulysses]

24. DU is reactionary?

:silly:

[MAlibdem]

26. THANK YOU!

You're right on target.

[wyldwolf]

27. good stuff!

[CTLawGuy]

28. deleted by poster

NT

[LoZoccolo]

29. This post is like a roll-call for the more moderate DUers.

And I like it! :D

[cornfedyank]

31. there are different ways to wage a war.

$2/hour x 40hours/week x 50weeks/year x 23,000,000 iraqis = $92 billion.

hire them all.

wage peace---------- it creates lives

[WilliamPitt]

32. Best. Thread. Ever.

[cindyw]

33. How about a Bush-Kerry translator

What Bush says: We are going to cut everyone a tax cut, especially the middle class.

What Bush means: We are going to give most of the money to the rich. The middle class will get enough to stay quiet on the matter and won't notice when their expenses actually go up.

DU translation: We are going to give most of the money to the rich. The middle class will get enough to stay quiet on the matter and won't notice when their expenses actually go up.


What Kerry says: We are going to protect the middle class tax cut.

What Kerry means: We are going to raise taxes on the rich and keep middle class cuts so that those families who are hurting from Bush's entire tax package won't bear the brunt of the recovery. My plan will make the tax system more PROGRESSIVE.

DU translation: I think the Bush tax plan was great. I am a Bush-Lite. I think the rich deserve to keep more money. Bush is brilliant and I want to emulate his conservative ideals.

[Name removed]

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[no name no slogan]

35. Not bad. Not bad at all.

Although I can't agree with everything you've posted (Kerry's "liberal" record, increasing the size of the military without a draft), I think you've made several very good points.

Well done. :D

[LWolf]

36. yawn

:nopity:

:boring:

:eyes:

[blondeatlast]

43. Why respond, then? It only kicks it for others who might ENJOY it.

[mr715]

37. And then...

A Few More

Kerry - "I voted for the PATRIOT ACT but now I want it gone."

Meaning - "I voted for a piece of legislation that I believed was worthy at the time because it had the potential to nullify a more present threat."

Reactionary Translation - "I hate civil liberties and I want Heinrich Ashcroft to have more power because the Republicans are right on everything!"


Kerry - "How do you ask the parents to let their son be the last to die for a mistake."

Meaning - "I am a candidate that nows the horror of war and do not want any person to be forced to suffer it. I will do all in my power to prevent needless deaths, because war is not always correct, even if sanctioned by the United States."

Reactionary Translation - "I voted for the Iraq War because I wanted to kill Americans and those nasty Iraqis because I am a Bush clone. I just authored the section of the bill requiring Congressional reviewel of the President's actions for political expediancy. Thank God my Republican friends didn't let it pass!"


Kerry - "I am against gay marriage but for civil unions."

Meaning - "I'm Catholic."

Reactionary Translation - "I'm a Democrat-In-Name-Only because I adhere to personal beliefs over liberal group-think and political correctness."


I'll add a couple too. Hes a member of the DLC but has the lowest voting congruence of any of the members. He is a member of the DLC for one reason; he has supported balanced budgets.

He is the most outspoken and deeply concerned member of Congress on the environment. Kucinich, Dean, Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer... none of the DU-god/dess worship liberals come close according to NRDC ratings.

John Kerry is our nominee. The most liberal candidate with a chance since FDR.

He does not want to establish a Department of Peace because he understands the nature of bureaucracy. He does not want single payer health insurance because thats why British Health Care stinks. He does not want to legalize marijuana (which may upset our college students) because HE WANTS TO GET ELECTED!!!

Lord Almighty!

Matt

[Renew Deal]

38. You nailed it.

Nice job :toast:

[JohnLocke]

39. Kick (nt).

[Nederland]

40. I don't get one

Kerry : "We will increase the number of troops in my administration"

Meaning : "Soldiers will be paid more and have more incentives."


How do you translate "increase the number of troops" to "Soldiers will be paid more"? It seems to me that if Kerry wanted to say that he intended for troops to be paid more, he should have said: "I want to pay troops more." Similarly, if he doesn't want to increase the number of troops, why did he say exactly the opposite?

FYI, I completely agree with the rest of your list.

[wyldwolf]

41. I gather that with higher pay and incentives, more will join the military

[Nederland]

47. Fair enough

How will he pay for it? Has he said?

[mr715]

49. Yeah

A repeal of the Bush tax cuts for the top 1% and the return of the estate tax will provide enough money for an increase in military pay.

Thats the Kerry plan.

[blondeatlast]

42. ROFLMAO!

Keep 'em coming!

[union_maid]

45. Great thread

My only quibble is that I think his main reason for not being in favor if single payer health insurance is because he knows it won't pass. He said, way, way back, that he came up with the best plan that he thought he could get through Congress. We need some kind of help in that area, and trying to get everything and winding up with nothing translates to no help at all. Kerry's experience is invaluable. He knows what can and what can't be done.

[blondeatlast]

46. Exactly--SPUHC is my "pettest" pet issue, but I'm realistic NOW.

We need a friendlier House and Senate as well as a friendlier Oval Office.

[sangh0]

48. LOL!

:crazy: