Say what you will about the republicans

[ncabot22]

but they rally around their candidate. Most of them who were complaining about McCain will now support him. Other repubs aren't slaying him in the press or speaking ill of him. I'm utterly disheartened by supporters of both Obama and Clinton who vow not to vote in the GE if their candidate doesn't get the nom. It is attitudes like this that have kept the repubs in the white house for so long. There is a huge problem when there have been only two democratic presidents in the 70s and the 90s.

What I am saying, as a non-American, is cut the shit--both sides. There is more to worry about than who gets the nomination. You have the Supreme Court and the opinion of the world to think about. Seriously. I like Obama but Hillary is better than any republican-so is Obama. All of you who say "I'll stay home if xxx gets the nom" use your brain and not your heart. If Roe v. Wade isn't important to you--stay home. If controlling the direction of the judicial branch of your country isn't important to you--stay home. But don't bitch or complain if the repubs stack the bench with conservative judges. Take joy in the fact that--you stayed home.

[PurityOfEssence]

1. Yes, but...

They are much better at winning elections because they have to be; if a fair airing of their policies was made, they'd never be able to get enough votes. Their policies just don't benefit most people and actively hurt most people.

Still, they fought hard until the thing was decided, and that's what we're doing.

One of the great things about a long primary season is that it helps to show who has he better chance to win. It also shows what really matters to the individuals and what they're really made of--which is often quite alarming--but it REALLY starts to reveal some core beliefs.

The electability is the big issue. Anyone who wants to say that there's THAT much difference between the two left standing should have his/her head removed as a public hazard. They're both rather slippery moderates with a lot of baggage.

What's more important than anything is to divine who has the best chance. What has inspired allegiance to a particular candidate is not the point; the point is that we're all in this together and we morally and ethically owe it to ourselves to figure out who's got the best shot and fall in line. The haughty outrage against either candidate can easily be countered by the transgressions made by the other, and those who can't seem to grasp or admit this are a danger to us all.

Obviously, the situation is simply not decided yet and needs to run a bit more of its course.

People need to step back, take a big breath and see how fast and conclusively things can change. It's still seven and a half months 'til the election, and some twists and turns may be lethal. They've both weathered some serious squalls, but there are more to come.

There's a blockheaded attitude among far too many that it's better to fight on principle with a more dicey candidate than to go with the one who's got the better chance, and that's just bullshit. They've both got good points and they've both got icky ones, to such a degree that it truly explains why we're still at loggerheads about the damned thing.

[barack the house]

2. I think deregulation is a bigger threat really. Without standards they can sell us posoned food....

I fine the supreme court a fairly lost cause for certain amount of years to come but deregulation is the biggest current threat. SO if you enjoy poison and unbreathable air by all means stay at home.