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Sun Mar-16-08 10:33 AM
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John Edwards - Your Iowa Supporters Have Spoken |
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I caucused for John Edwards in January, and love him still. When he withdrew from the race, I quickly and easily transferred my allegiance to Obama. Judging from yesterday's county conventions in Iowa, I'm certainly not the only one. All this talk from Tweety about Edwards endorsing Hillary makes me cross. It's clear those of us who supported Edwards would far prefer to see Obama in the White House.
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:34 AM
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1. I think the best instinct is to trust John Edwards' own instinct, and he'll |
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likely endorse if he feels like it.
It could be Clinton, or Obama, or no one.
We'll have to wait and see.
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:37 AM
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3. Almost hope he doesn't |
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I almost hope he doesn't endorse at all. His message has clearly influenced the message of every Democrat's campaign. For that he should be proud. I find that Hillary has become a divisive figure within the party and would be sad to see Edward's message get lost in all the bickering.
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:39 AM
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5. I want Edwards in the position of the greatest possible influence in our |
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platform, in the next administration, in the national eye.
I'll take whatever terms come down the pike, but the more Edwards influence, the better.
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:36 AM
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2. it is not clear that ALL who supported Edwards feel that way. |
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I donated to Edwards, and supported him. So did my mother. We, now that he is gone, both prefer Clinton over Obama. We don't hate Obama and he'll make a nice president if he wins the nomination, but we would personally rather have Hillary and are voting as such. Not all Edwards supporters automatically like Obama. If that was the case... this process would have ended the second Edwards dropped out.
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:39 AM
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4. Just Curious: Is Your Misspelled Name Supposed To Be "Condemn" Or "Condom". |
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Just curious. That's all.
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:47 AM
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10. Not misspelled at all |
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My screen name, as I'm certain is true for most, was chosen with some care. It's just that I appreciate both homonyms and ambiguity.
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:48 AM
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12. Didn't Mean To Imply That It Was Accidental. But I'm Curious Which It Was Supposed To Be. |
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:50 AM
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It happens that I am a more conservative Democrat than others in my sphere.
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:53 AM
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:57 AM
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18. You'd have to meet... |
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my wife. She is about as proudly liberal as they come. In comparison to her, I'm clearly the more conservative. But, I'm learning.
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:47 AM
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11. ok thats pretty damn funny lol |
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:41 AM
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6. I HIGHLY doubt he'd endorse Clinton. VIDEO > |
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:44 AM
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7. Op speak for yourself only! i will never support Obama..ever! |
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and i worked as a Volunteer on the ground.. in Iowa and SC for John Edwards...
And i can not say..if i would vote in Nov or not...if Obama is the nominee..
and the fucking talking heads on tv are fooling you and the american people..this is one woman who will quit the dem party..and never do another thing for the dem party the rest of my life!..and i am HEARING THE SAME THING FROM EVERY WOMAN I KNOW IN MY AGE GROUP!
So think real hard dem party..count on those who historically never show up to vote or do the grunt work ..or lose those of us who do donate and contribute in every way..and work our ass off for the dem party..
fuck em...
their choice..
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:46 AM
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8. fuck any and all dems who won't vote for the dem nominee in November |
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be they hillary or Obama supporters. Just fuck them all. They're all idiots and they all suck.
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:52 AM
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:51 AM
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14. Wow. I don't want you in the foxhole against McCain next to me. |
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A majority of Democrats disagree with you. I'm not seeing as how your insight into the nomination contest is superior to theirs. You have no more votes than they do, and their totals came up with a different conclusion than yours.
"Fuck em" -- nice talk.
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Sun Mar-16-08 11:04 AM
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That's the way to get people to vote for your candidate. Not. Nice knowing ya.
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Sun Mar-16-08 11:15 AM
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From what I have witnessed in this Primary season, I wouldn't worry too much about others picking up the slack.
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Sun Mar-16-08 11:27 AM
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27. You are way in the minority of us Edwards supporters. I support the Nominee. nt |
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:47 AM
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9. Was it really that easy and quick? |
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Maybe I've been supporting John for too long! I still feel somewhat neutral.
I really don't like Clinton or Obama. But I don't hate either one. I find myself leaning Obama but I can't really say why except that his speech after South Carolina was amazing and it made me feel good.
If John endorsed Clinton, I will probably follow because I know it would be based on his experience and knowledge of what it takes to win the GE.
It is liberating to not have an emotional connection with either candidate. You can see the baggage they bring to the GE and debate the pros and cons with a lot more objectivity. I think this is what John is doing.
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Sun Mar-16-08 10:53 AM
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17. It's all speculation - the endorsement timing sucks |
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Likely, someone like Edwards will throw his support behind the candidate with the most momentum at that particular moment or the one who is most likely to shoot up. Nothing HRC has done in the past few weeks has convinced me that such is the case.
Besides, I'm sure Edwards doesn't want to stir up a protracted fight.
I just don't see him endorsing anyone right now. The timing is terrible.
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Sun Mar-16-08 11:00 AM
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As I said, I almost wish he wouldn't endorse at all. When he originally withdrew from the race, I had hoped he would endorse Obama right away. (Just my personal hope, I'm not itching for a fight.) As the primaries drag on, I appreciate the strength of Edward's message more than his endorsement. And I think it means more if it remains his.
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Sun Mar-16-08 11:01 AM
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21. If this is Clinton's idea of fair, I don't think Edwards would go for her. |
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Hillary's idea is to include the Florida and Michigan delegates based on the vote taken which was ruled not valid. Obama's name not even on the ballot in Michigan. Obama, following instructions, not campaigning in either state. If this is Hillary's idea of fair, this Edward's supporter will find it very hard to support her candidacy. I'll go straight to Nader. Am I missing something here? Is there something right about counting votes that were ruled uncountable before they were cast?
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Sun Mar-16-08 11:06 AM
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knew the consequences when they decided to move their primaries up. And I respect the candidates who chose to stay off the ballot. They were operating with the unity of the Democratic party in mind. That says quite a bit, now doesn't it?
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Sun Mar-16-08 11:10 AM
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24. I hope he just doesn't endorse anyone |
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I'm an Edwards supporter, who changed to Obama after he dropped. I want change. I want someone who is not part of the system. I just can't stomach the thought of Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton. What are electing different Royal families?
I think Edward's supporters are split between those like me who want change and those who really want Universal Health Care. If Edwards endorses Clinton, I'll be sick. He fought against her as part of the system. He ran as a change canidate. How could be now embrace the system?
John...please just stay out of it. You don't need to side now. You can endorse whoever the final winner is or make a choice at convention. Don't do it now!
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Sun Mar-16-08 11:26 AM
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26. I'm good with either of them. nt |
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