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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:01 AM
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THE MATH – Sunday, March 16 – Polls and “The Magic Number”
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 11:10 AM by phrigndumass
THE MATH – Sunday, March 16 – Polls and “The Magic Number”

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NOTE: The calculations in this post are taken from Friday’s THE MATH and adjusted for Iowa’s delegate revisions from Saturday. For more information and to see the calculations and sources for yourself, visit this link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5079171

And for the link to the spreadsheet:
http://www.box.net/shared/xnx7q7hk0o

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With about 87% of the pledged delegates chosen, I’ve been wanting to look at polls for upcoming races to determine what the race might look like with 100% of the pledged delegates in, and use that information to come up with a “magic number” of remaining superdelegates needed for each candidate to win the nomination.

Polls have been released for some of the upcoming contests. Where no polls are available, I have marked it as “No Poll” and used a 50/50 calculation for that contest’s pledged delegates. Obviously this information will change, and I plan on updating these calculations whenever we have new or updated polls.

Here’s what we have after taking the polls below this section into consideration:

Obama’s Magic Number – 119 of 333 remaining superdelegates needed, or 35.7%
Clinton’s Magic Number – 231 of 333 remaining superdelegates needed, or 69.4%


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Taken from these polls:

Pennsylvania (April 22)
Real Clear Politics average has Senator Clinton as +16.0%
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_primary-240.html

Guam (May 3)
No Poll

Indiana (May 6)
USA Election Polls shows Senator Obama with +15.0%
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/indiana.html

North Carolina (May 6)
Real Clear Politics average has Senator Obama as +8.2%
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_democratic_primary-275.html

West Virginia (May 13)
Mark Blankenship Enterprises (as reported in the Charleston Daily Mail) shows Senator Clinton with +21.0%
http://www.dailymail.com/News/election08/200802260192

Kentucky (May 20)
No Poll

Oregon (May 20)
Riley Research Polls have Senator Clinton as +8.0%
http://www.rileyresearch.com/polls/2008_1_31_riley_report.pdf

Puerto Rico (June 1)
No Poll

Montana (June 3)
Mason-Dixon shows Senator Clinton with +12.0%
http://billingsgazette.net/articles/2008/01/02/news/state/16-polls.txt

South Dakota (June 3)
No Poll

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If anyone has links to new or more recent polls, please share. Thanks!


(On Edit: Add the word "needed" to the magic numbers, for clarification)
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:03 AM
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1. I hope your math is this good in the GE
I really do
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:20 AM
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4. I'll be here for the GE with the math
Wouldn't dream of being anywhere else ... thanks!

:hi:
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:06 AM
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2. A lot of those polls
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 11:06 AM by adoraz
are very outdated, so I highly doubt some like Oregon or Montana will go that way.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:12 AM
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3. I agree - we need updated polls
I'm hoping others can share links.

:hi:
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:57 PM
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15. yeah sadly I haven't seen any
which is surprising that polling places keep doing nation wide and polls of PA. why not do polls of places like Oregon??? they could be the first to do post Super Tuesday polls of these places.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:42 AM
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5. bump
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:40 PM
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12. bump
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:55 PM
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14. bump
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:42 AM
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6. K & R (nt)
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:49 AM
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7. Your information is very much appreciated. Thank you for your time and effort.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:53 AM
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8. Thanks phrigndumass.
:thumbsup:
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:16 PM
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9. Link for latest polls from Real Clear Politics - You might have this one.....
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:52 PM
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11. What I like about RCP ...
... is the way they average and weight the different polls, all in one place. Thanks!
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:46 PM
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13. What I dont like about RCP is they mix polls with different methodology
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:16 PM
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10. ProSense has updated current statistics today
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:06 PM
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16. Nice work. Thanks!
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