Why the hell is Rev. Wright a Topic of Discussion, again?

[redstate_democrat]

It has really sunk in with me. Why are we talking about Reverend Wright in this presidential election when we are in a recession, this home mortgage crisis, in a failed and misguided war in Iraq, Osama Bin Laden is god knows where strengthening his troops, people are literally loosing the shirts off their backs, schools are crumbling, we have millions of people without health care and those with health care are being screwed by these HMOs, we have corporations absorbing money like never before, gas is $4 a GALLON, milk is almost $5 a GALLON, eggs are $4, bread is almost $4, the social services people need have been drastically CUT and people are dependent of these "faith based" outreach programs with no sort of guaranteed security, the earth is in peril (HOW DID WE MANAGE TO DESTROY THE PLANET EARTH? HOW? WHAT KIND OF FUCKED UP SPECIES ARE WE?), we have oil magnates controlling our economy, we IGNORE genocide in Darfur, but are spending TRILLIONS of dollars OCCUPYING a soverign nation, we shipped all of our manufacturing jobs to other countries and buy everything from these countries, ending up with a MASSIVE trade deficit, the dollar is crashing when compared to other nations, our CIVIL RIGHTS are eroding--wiretaps gone wild, rendition gone wild, warrentless searches, the prison industrial complex being fueled by poor, young, and mostly black men because of nonviolenet offenses, and may I say again, WE ARE TWO STEPS AWAY FROM marshall law if the eroding of our Civil Rights continue, we have a crazy Supreme Court in love with right wing ideology and power

YET WE ARE DISCUSSING REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT, an old black preacher in Chicago, IN THIS FRIGGIN ELECTION WHICH WILL DETERMINE WHETHER THIS COUNTRY STANDS OR FALLS!

REV. WRIGHT MIGHT DECIDE THIS ELECTION? OBAMA MIGHT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT SOME TOTALLY SEPARATE PERSON BELIEVES DUE TO HIS OWN EXPERIENCES?

THIS COUNTRY HAS OFFICALLY TURNED IDIOCRATIC!

[redstate_democrat]

1. self kick

[MethuenProgressive]

51. "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color."

Chicago Tribune: "In Wright he had found both a spiritual mentor and a role model."
"Wright helps keep his priorities straight and his moral compass calibrated."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-070121-relig_wright,1,271630.story

OP: "OBAMA MIGHT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT SOME TOTALLY SEPARATE PERSON BELIEVES"
"Totaly separate"? Role model, spiritual mentor, and personal pastor for 20 years.

[rodeodance]

54. one of the more polarized comments from mr. Wright.

[Bicoastal]

2. Racism IS alive and well on these boards.

And if you think I'm just crying wolf, check THIS shit out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=106107&mesg_id=106314

[redstate_democrat]

6. Wow.

Too bad this poster doesn't understand that if "one of us" falls, ALL of fall. As Obama said, we are one America, all ties to each other. This person IS NOT, I repeat NOT, a liberal or even a DEMOCRAT. DU has been officially stormed!

[anamandujano]

22. "One of us," not counting Hillary, right?

[11 Bravo]

7. As is sexism. Neither side has covered themselves in glory.

[Forkboy]

18. Thanks 11 Bravo.

I like seeing the fairness. Your point is spot on.

[QC]

10. As is racebaiting.

Self-righteousness, too.

[rodeodance]

53. many Obamafolk refuse to see that BO has racialized this primary.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

3. people seem content for another 4 years of BushClintonBushClinton

that's how is was supposed to be until a young black man came along.....

[anamandujano]

25. Bullcrap, nobody expected the Pukes to win this time around. They don't

even want to. They need the Dems to fix it all up so they can destroy it again, replenish the funds so they can steal it all again.

"Until a young black man came along"--What a crock, Mr. Empty suit hasn't paid his dues yet, he has a padded resume, he has an ego the size of Mars.

He's helping Rove destroy the party.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. people seem content for another 4 years of BushClintonBushClinton

that's how is was supposed to be until a young black man came along.....

[SoonerPride]

5. We get the government we deserve

I've seen little evidence we deserve anything more than another 100 years of George Bush, which is what we will get.

Bravo to you for realizing people are being distracted from real issues.

[redstate_democrat]

13. I mean, as if Rev. Wright's words

created the situation this country is in. I see more faux outrage about Wright on here then I do about GEORGE W BUSH and the REPUGLICANT PARTY. BUSH is the reason why people are loosing the shirts off their backs. BUSH is the cause for ALLL OF THIS. And he DARED danced on the steps of the White House as if thousands of soldiers haven't DIED in Iraq based on a LIE. As if millions of people in this country aren't SUFFERING due to his failed policies. It makes me ANGRY. Nevermind that he had a nitjob pastor IN THE WHITEHOUSE spewing anti-semetic rhetoric! Nevermind JOHN MCINSANE "bomb iran" HAS TWO religious nutjobs on his team, one of which he calls his SPIRITUAL ADVISOR.

UNBELIEVABLE!

[depakid]

8. Political reality

Not to say that the US isn't collectively insane (it is) -but these are the sorts of allegations and smears that can swing elections- and have done so repeatedly in the past.

It's the far right's MO- and simply dismissing it (as Kerry and Dukakis did) leads to disaster.

The fact that all this is coming out now- and that Obama appears to be responding to the first salvos, is somewhat encouraging, though the worst is clearly yet to come.

[anamandujano]

27. The Wright situation is not an allegation, it's all on tape for everyone

to see.

You are correct, the worst is yet to come.

[Upton]

9. I thought we Democrats were beyond using racism for political gain

guess I thought wrong.

[redstate_democrat]

11. What the heck are you talking about?

[Upton]

17. It is in only one campaign's interest to keep this story alive

need I spell out who?

[MediaBabe]

45. Let me guess - McCain?

If Obama is the nominee the email campaigns spreading the "God Damn America" video will be ceasless. Will you then be blaming it on Democrats or will your eyes finally be opened as to who is the real enemy?

[Double T]

12. obama supported wright until wright was exposed for being an insane radical.

obama NEVER seems to know what the HELL is going on around him; this is a HUGH character problem that should NOT be overlooked. obama is NOT PREPARED to be the President of this crippled nation.

[redstate_democrat]

14. What has Hillary overlooked?

And why would she be more prepared than Obama. Hillary has a track record of being totally fucked on that end.

[GarbagemanLB]

15. Yeah, and Hillary, who has overseen the biggest upset in recent political history by a black man nam

ed Barack Obama has the skills necessary to run this country. :rofl: :rofl:

[Double T]

59. The LW and the RW have a lot in common. When the BObots discover.........

the RW has snookered them, I can't wait to hear the whining and the feeble excuses. Who will be laughing THEN?

[anamandujano]

28. Bingo!

[jab105]

29. HUGE not HUGH...thanks...n/t

[Double T]

60. Sorry..........GD spell checker doesn't work worth a ...............!

[Frank Booth]

16. It's the only story the Clinton supporters have left.

The whole Rezco "scandal" has been exposed as the non-story it was all along.

Hillary's supporters gave up on trying to highlight her positives a long time ago. Now, it's just sliming Obama 24/7.

They are very skilled at keeping this story at the top of the page. One of them will write an imflammatory post making the absurd implication that Obama hates white people, and the rest of them will keep kicking it to the top. Sometimes it almost seems orchestrated.

[Adelante]

34. You got it nt

[RiverStone]

19. Yes - there are a zillion things more important. No need to even ask...

No worries - Wright won't decide the election - it's already fading.

Even posting "why are we still talking about it" --- is still talking about it.

Asked and answered.

Lets move on.

[anamandujano]

20. Did you ever hear of the concept of freedom of speech?

The DU police are going to arrest us. :scared:

[robbedvoter]

21. Same reason you were discussing Hillary's "tears" or if she can be her own person

and not half of Bill - it's a primary.

[redstate_democrat]

26. I've never talked about Hillary's

fake ass tears. But now that you mention it.

[anamandujano]

32. I love this response.

Just as you are asking why WE are talking Wright, lumping everyone into a group, you have the nerve to say YOU have never said a certain thing, while the group you belong to (Hillary Haters not-so-anonymous) HAS TALKED ABOUT IT, Ad nauseam.

[shayes51]

23. Obama is only accoutable for what he says, and

what he said about the Wright remarks is not credible.

[ecdab]

24. It's being discussed because some Hillary supporters think they

can scare up a few votes in Pennsylvania by waving around the scary black man - it is as simple as that.

[anamandujano]

33. Well, I'm going to tell the TV station that I own to stop it right now!

:eyes:

[ecdab]

35. The OP asked why "we" were discussing it - not why some talking

heads on TV were discussing it. Talking heads will discuss anything that create a little sensationalism, I would appear that many of us here at DU will do the same.

[roseBudd]

30. Because white boomer women will become homeless if Hillary is not elected?

[backscatter712]

31. Veiled racist dog-whistling.

That's all there is to it.

The Hill-billies will claim that he did an OMGWTFBBQ! terrible thing by saying "God damn America" and "Hillary has never been called a n!@#$r!"

It's an exaggeration. People shoot off their mouths all the time. And people are forgiven and welcomed back to the fold afterwards. Just look at President Bush, who's said and did far worse things, and not only is he still President, but he still got reelected (or shall I say "reelected".) Still, when one person only peripherally involved with Obama's campaign says a few controversial statements and offends a few people, all of the sudden, the Hillary-Freepers come out and say "HIS CAMPAIGN IS DOOMED!!! DOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!"

And the reason why is racism.

Let me turn the dog whistle down a few octaves.

"One of Barack Hussein Osbama's n@#$%r buddies is getting uppity! Let's string this n@#$%r up and that'll put them in their place!"

Pure, vile, despicable racism.

Wright's hostile statements have already been rejected and denounced. That doesn't mean all of his statements are hostile or offensive, or even more than 1% are - the ones we're hearing have been cherry-picked to smear him. Obama's already dealt with it. CASE FUCKING CLOSED!!!

So anyone who continues to bring them up now is spreading bigotry. And I will call it out as bigotry. And I will not be subtle about it.

I expect this shit to come out of the usual freephole outlets like FAUX NOISE and Redstate. But I will refuse to put up with it here.

[apocalypsehow]

36. It's being discussed because HRC is nearly a million votes behind Senator Obama, and has no

LEGITIMATE way to catch up in the delegate count. Therefore, it is incumbent upon the Clinton supporters to talk about something - anything - else other than the fact that she is losing, and losing badly.

[billbuckhead]

38. Hillary's opponent goes to a racist church with a leader who hates white women

That makes Hillary's opponent even more unelectable.

[apocalypsehow]

39. Peddling falsehoods and simpering on DU doesn't change the fact that HRC is down a million votes.

Sorry.

[billbuckhead]

42. Or that Hillary's empty suit of a opponent is unelectable

Almost twenty points down in the crucial battleground state of Pennsylvania and trying to lower expectations. A doomed campaign.

[apocalypsehow]

47. "A doomed campaign" - LOL. Got that "projection" thingy going strong, eh?

:rofl:

[billbuckhead]

58. Membership in Reverend Wright's church is a fatal wound for Hillary's opponent

Now whites have an excuse not to vote for Hillary's opponent.

[JoFerret]

37. I tell you why from my perspective

After almost 8 years of bush and the GOP we cannot blow this election. You know the reasons why.

The Wright factor - while fairly meaningless in relation to Obama in other ways - renders him dangerously vulnerable in the general election. You know the reasons why I think that.

I know we can all argue this every which way and up and down but that is my considered and not irrational view. No one can know for sure. And that is why the Wright matter matters in my opinion.

(It is true that I lean toward Clinton for a variety of unrelated reasons.And certainly there are many things I find fault with in both of them. Obama's irritate and disturb me more than Clinton's and I do believe she would be an excellent president and begin to effect the changes we desperately need. But I also believe strongly that we have two great candidates.)

I also think that Hillary has been subject to appalling treatment on this board. Quite disgraceful. It has turned me into her champion in the interests of fairness. But to repeat; we have two great candidates. Pray to whatever gods you worship that one of them wins in November.

[Kolesar]

40. I don't even know what the Wright story is

I caught a few minutes of it on Tim Russert (ugh). I am inclined to agree with you , but would somebody please tell the Boreal Avenger what the heck is going on???

[FrenchieCat]

41. Because the Democratic party is full of cowards and losers and

scared people, and there is a lack of leadership. The media calls the shots, and the Democratic Regressive party follows.

[billbuckhead]

43. If the media left us run a white male candidate, this would be over

Instead we have a nasty identity politics war.

[FrenchieCat]

55. Right. Why rock the boat when we can continue on as we have?

I pray that you don't count yourself as a progressive. :puke:

[billbuckhead]

56. Why win an election when we can lose it and feel morally superior

Hillary's opponent's membership in this racially controversial church is a disaster for the Democratic party.

[cooolandrew]

44. He's old news now just turnoff the TV they don't like real news these days 4000 dead troops is news.

[cooolandrew]

46. BRAVO!! Just turn off MSM just Olberman only progressive radio is for the people.

[Window]

48. Cause, THEY GOT NOTHING ELSE!!!

[rodeodance]

52. Too bad it was BO's poor JUDGMENT in associating himself with him for 20 yrs--He did all by hisself.

[Vinca]

49. Let's talk about Billy Graham - he hung around the Clinton White House

and, as I recall, prayed with Bill after . . . you know. As it turns out, Graham is in the history books for his anti-semitic remarks caught on tape by Richard Nixon. Any chance Hillary will denounce, reject or whatever else they're doing to people who have freedom of speech but you just happen to know? Guilt by association and all that. Has she denounced and whatever all of her associates convicted of crimes during the last Clinton presidency? There were 15 re Whitewater alone. Just wondering. Guilt by association and all that.

[theredpen]

50. That's all well and good, but I got an email saying the Obama is a Muslim!

[Utopian Leftist]

57. Because

the right-wing, corporate-controlled, conservatively-biased mainstream news media creamed their collective pants at the chance to slime Obama unfairly.

[kwenu]

61. Haven't you heard, a Black man may end up being President. Quick make up a scandal!!!!

[Doctor_J]

62. This is what happens when people believe hate radio and cabal "news"

way, way way to many DUers watch/listen to and believe the 99.9%-ultra-right-wing main stream media.

[DemGa]

63. Because Wright is Obama's mentor--- and yes, there is much at stake

With what and whom is Obama aligned? Your question very easily answers itself.