A Hillary Clinton win equals a John McCain presidency

[mudesi]

Open your eyes, Clinton loyalists. The super delegates will have to overturn the pledged delegates in order for Clinton to win.

If that happens, John McCain will win the general election. Far too many people will be turned off by the outcome and will opt to not vote. I know that's not the way it's supposed to be, but that is the reality.

You can call those legions of Obama supporters selfish, dumb, whatever you want. I wouldn't disagree. But that doesn't mean it won't happen. You know it will.

So get over it already and urge your candidate to drop out of this race before it's too late.

Or is a McCain presidency really what you want? Those of us without partisan blinders on are capable of discerning that's exactly what Ms. Clinton wants so she can run again in 2012.

Enough. This farce has gone on far too long now.

[MethuenProgressive]

1. A vote for Obama is a vote for John McCain.

Snap out of it, Obama followers.
Enough. This farce has gone on far too long now.



















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[Usrename]

9. There is some truth in what you are saying. I'll show it to you.

If Hillary were leading in the pledged delegate count, the popular vote, and the new first-time voters by wide margins, and then the superdelegates overturned her victory to give the nod to Obama anyway, I'm sure Obama could not win the Whitehouse either.

Whether you want to face it or not, there is a movement afoot in this country for change, and Obama has managed to position himself at the front of this movement. If something untoward happens now, and robs this movement of its clear victory, it will crush whatever is left of the party. These new first-time voters will be lost for a whole generation.

I don't see how anyone could make a different argument and be sincere.

[Imperialism Inc.]

12. Not just first time voters.

If Clinton stages an honest comeback and goes in to the convention with a lead of some kind then I will vote for her. I have never liked her at any stage of this contest but I'm not married to Obama either. I think they are both capable of doing the job and if she wins honestly then I will look past the differences on policy and pull the lever for her.

If she steals it through some back room shenanigans however, I will have a very hard time voting for her. At the moment I don't think I would.

[Yurovsky]

14. Your post sums it up for a lot of Obama supporters ...

hell, I was a Dennis Kucinich supporter (ouch...). I just want to see a fair contest, and if Hillary goes into Denver with fewer votes and fewer delegates yet emerges with the nomination, well, NOBODY short of a Hilbot would call that fair (or expect to win in November).

Hillary wins it fair and square (however unlikely that may be at present), she has a chance. She steals it, you can stick a fork in her.

[Metric System]

2. "Those of us without partisan blinders on are capable of discerning that's exactly what Ms. Clinton"

Again with the "BIG BAD EVIL HILLARY."

[dkf]

3. Hillary Clinton is not going to win.

She only loses gracefully, or brings down all Dems in scorched earth death spiral.

[newfie11]

4. So you say

YAWN!!!

[cali]

5. oh for pity's sake.

There really is no way of knowing whether Hillory would win against McCain.

[wileedog]

6. But you have half the Dem party sitting out

And half the Republican party that probably would have sat out because most conservatives hate McCain turning up at the polls en masse to vote against a Clinton.

[jconner27]

7. Can Obama supporters use anything but RNC to make him look good

[1776Forever]

8. Take a look at this - Clinton = Bush in so many ways - They will keep the Big Boys Happy!!

'Having Dinner with the Right People': Bill Clinton, Jack Kemp, and How Money Is Clouding the Ports Deal Debate

Arianna Huffington

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/having-dinner-with-the-r_b_16897.html

(snip)

People like Bill Clinton who, we learned last week, had advised the UAE on the ports deal. I can't help but wonder if that advice was in any way colored by the millions (the exact figures are still not in) Dubai has given to Clinton -- in speaking fees and donations to his presidential library. And then, as Lloyd Grove reports, there is Clinton's lucrative relationship with Ron Burkle's private investment firm, Yucaipa, which has partnered with Dubai in bidding on some major investment deals. Money clouds on both sides of the aisle.

That's why transparency is so important on matters like this. Jack Kemp, Bill Clinton, and the establishment's cost-benefit analysis of the Dubai ports deal is clearly different than yours or mine.

Pocketing millions may allow them to overlook the very real risks the deal brings. For the rest of us, we have to ask ourselves: is even the slightest increase in risk to our security worth it?

.............

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[Kaotac]

10. You're quoting Dick Morris?

He's told so many lies about the Clintons on Fox that there's no way of counting them all. Bash her as much as you like, but bloody hell, use a more reputable source!

[1776Forever]

13. Try the new link out - it is from Huffington Post - have a problem with that too?

:dilemma:

[aquarius dawning]

11. I believe that he has already won regardless of who gets the Democratic nomination.

John McCain owns the center and that's what wins general elections. That, coupled with our "little division problem", will, in retrospect, be seen as the reason for our loss in 2008.

[Apollo11]

15. A Clinton Obama ticket equals a Democratic victory in November