As of right now, who here at DU would still vote for either candidate in November?

[Bicoastal]

I'm wondering all the time...

And yes, as of right now I'd happily vote for either candidate over John McCain.

[xultar]

1. I wish we had a do-over I really don't like either Hillary or Obama.

[natrat]

2. hillary is in league with the junta-and doing a good job of it

[justinsb]

3. I'm an independent

I'll happily support Obama, but not Clinton. I also won't vote McCain - but I'll vote "other".

Between Clinton and McCain I really don't care.

On Edit: I'm a dual citizen, I do actually vote on both sides of the border.

[democrattotheend]

9. Which state do you live in?

If it's a swing state, I urge you to reconsider your stance. I'd much rather have Obama than Clinton but none of us want to be stuck in Iraq for another 4 or 8 years. None of us wants another Republican-appointed Supreme Court justice. People can't afford healthcare, the rich are getting richer while the poor continue to fall behind, and we simply can't afford 4 more years of Republican policies.

[justinsb]

13. But I don't trust Hillary

To implement any meaningful health care reform, to fix the tax system or to manage to extract the US from Iraq

[IndependentDem]

41. that may be true, but.

you can trust that NONE of that will be done by McCain. at least Clinton says she wants to do this stuff, even if you dont trust her. besides, even though McCain himself may not be that bad (i think even he is an improvement from bush) he is now catering to the far right conservatives-- for me thats enough to not trust what he might do.

just my opinion.

[1awake]

4. I'll vote for either one in the end..

mostly because.. I have a few brain cells left that actually work.

[cali]

5. I will absolutely vote for Hillary if she's the nominee

though I'll have to get stinking drunk to do it.

[PylesMalfunction]

38. Giggle!

Your comment cracked me up! Maybe all of us who will need to hold our noses to vote can get together and get shitty together before we go vote! :toast:

[meow mix]

60. i might need something for nausea

i dont want to make a mess in the poll booth

[democrattotheend]

6. I will vote for either. We cannot lose sight of the big picture

We cannot get so caught up in the primary and our candidate preference that we forget why we care so much about electing a Democratic president in the first place. Much as I'd be tempted to withhold my vote because I object to some of Clinton's tactics, it's not about rewarding the candidates with our votes. It's about the soldiers stuck in Iraq, the people who don't have health insurance, the Iraqis who are suffering under US occupation, the prisoners at Guatanemo who are being denied due process. It's about the Supreme Court and the danger of another Republican-appointed justice. We can't get so caught up in our chosen candidates that we lose sight of that.

[bluestateguy]

7. The sooner we finish this up, the more time there is for primary season wounds to heal

I remember a lot of Howard Dean people "swearing" that they would stay home or go Green, but Dean fizzled out in February and Kerry won in early March. There was ample time for people to come to their senses.

[LisaL]

8. Just as I thought.

DUbamas strike again.
After all their blubber, they are the one who won't vote for Hillary if she is nominated.

[Bicoastal]

Actually, they DON'T necessarily support Obama...

...but they would never vote for Hillary.

[democrattotheend]

17. That's because there are more Obama supporters here.

I took a poll a couple weeks ago and found that on a proportional basis, Clinton supporters were less likely to say they would vote for Obama than the other way around. Over half the Clinton supporters would not vote for Obama. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4813949

[Arkansas Granny]

26. All these polls really show is the attitude of people who post here and

participate in these polls. I don't think you would get the same percentages from the Democratic voting population as a whole.

[IndianaGreen]

10. I am not about to vote for McCain like some of Hillary's supporters have told TIME

There is no way I would vote for that fool. One hundred years of war, no way!

[Forkboy]

11. Not 100% decided yet, but I really don't think I'll vote for Hillary.

But I'm spoiled and can have my cake and eat it too because I live in Mass, where either candidate will win by a large, large margin. My non-vote will hardly tip the state in favor of McCain. If polls leading up to the election are close I'll rethink things, but I really don't see it coming to that.

And on edit - Obama barely enthuses me either, but I'll be able to vote for him and still sleep at night.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

12. Hey It's An Anonymous Poll Right? Nothin Wrong With Calling Out Colors Or Anything, Right?

Well having that said:

Fuck all the selfish, childish, tantrum throwing, ignorant, narrow minded jerkoffs who vote blue, green, or yellow. Yup. Fuck em. HUGE OMC fuck you to all of them. Each and every one. Selfish dumbasses.

[Forkboy]

15. Love ya too!

:loveya:

[Kool Kitty]

14. I'll vote for either over McCain.

I can't even imagine doing otherwise.

[LiveLiberally]

36. You beat me to it -- my thoughts exactly! nt

[RiverStone]

16. I've said all along I'd support either...but now

...I see one thing that could turn me off.

If Super Delegate over-rode the popular vote AND pledged delegates decision (for either candidate) - that would so disheartening and maddening I'd probably need to do some major thinking on that one. I'd wager given that scenario, many people would walk away from the party in disgust.

I hope (and plan) to cast my GE vote for Obama, but I would do so for Hillary as well.

My only caveat - who ever wins, wins fair and square. If it is the will of the people and the delegates - either candidate would have my vote. If not, I'd work like hell to support Dems at the local and state level and skip the GE.

[SoFlaJet]

18. True democrat here

I'll vote democratic across the board...it's about our families and our lives and the lives of our children and grandchildren. My son will be 15 in a couple of weeks and I'd sure hate to have a republican in office when he turns 18 ya know? So to you Clinton folk out there that hate me right now (feelings mutual you bastids;)) know that even though I disagree with Hillary I understand she is better than McCain will ever be-if I can't have Obama that is of course...

[democrattotheend]

19. I did a poll that broke it down better

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4813949

Feel free to vote in that if you have not already

[featherman]

20. There's difference between vote for and work for. I would work for

Barack Obama as well as vote for. I would only vote for Clinton.

[izzybeans]

21. I wouldn't vote for Clinton in the primary. If I must, I will in the general.

I don't like dynastic families.

[Swamp Rat]

22. Either........... DENNIS KUCINICH FOR PRESIDENT!!

:D

[hedgehog]

23. You need to add a choice for people who will vote for Clinton if

she is the nominee but won't bother staying up to see who wins!

[Crunchy Frog]

24. Hillary is pushing it.

At this point it depends on how she gets the nomination, whether I'll vote for her or not.

[NaturalHigh]

25. I voted "undecided"...

because there is a very slight chance that I will vote for Obama. I will never vote for Mrs. Clinton.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

27. This assumes one or the other of them will be the nominee

If the nomination goes to convention, and a new compromise candidate is nominated, I will vote for that Democratic candidate.

Wanted to say that to take in all possibilities.

[cali]

29. that's simply not a possibility.

There is no way that the delegates at the convention are going to abrogate millions of votes. Some possibilities aren't worth taking into account.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

76. I didn't say it was a probability

I said it was a possibility. And my point was that I would vote for the Democratic nominee, no matter who it is.

[wellstone dem]

28. SCOTUS nt

[ColesCountyDem]

30. I'll vote for either one in a HEARTBEAT! n/t

[sandnsea]

31. I've never had to hold my nose and vote before

Never once in over 30 years. If Hillary is the nominee, I don't know how in the world I'm going to vote for her. :puke:

[New Dawn]

32. I would never vote for Hillary Clinton. n/t

[ZombieHorde]

33. I voted for the first

But I felt that this poll, and most polls on DU, may be bogus due to freepers.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

34. I will vote for the Dem

[PylesMalfunction]

35. I may hold my nose while doing it

but I'll vote for the other candidate if my choice doesn't get the nomination. In fact, I'll campaign for them. I'll give you at least 3,988 reasons why. As far as I'm concerned, those of you who don't vote have the blood of all the men and women who will continue to die in Iraq on your hands. Quit throwing hissies, STFU and vote. Do it for all the men, women and children in this country who will suffer if John McCain gets elected.

[IndependentDem]

37. either, we CAN NOT allow our country to be run by Conservatives for another 4 years!!! period.

[bilgewaterbill]

39. I'll never vote for Hillary.

[IndependentDem]

44. could you explain..

why it would be better to vote for McCain? (which is what not voting does)
I do not see what positives McCain has over Clinton... She isnt my first choice either but she is a whole hell of a lot higher on my list than any republican.

[bilgewaterbill]

48. It's simple really.

If Hillary wins it means the party doesn't value my vote unless it corresponds to their plans. Mathematically, Hillary can't win unless the "superdelegates" throw the nomination to her. If they give the nomination to Hillary, they will have told me that my vote doesn't really matter. THAT party needs to go away.

Aren't you concerned?

[IndependentDem]

51. very concerned, and i agree with you..

and if clinton does "steal" the nomination i will feel like my own party doesnt care about me or my vote or democracy in general. but i still feel that the country as a whole will be better off with clinton as the president as apposed to mccain. i will not allow my personal hard feelings to effect the rest of the country. thanks for your response!

[seriousstan]

52. Obama can't win unless the "superdelegates" throw the nomination to him.

Isn't that also true?

What exactly do you think the purpose of the super-delegates is? If it to simply vote for whoever has the most delegates or even popular votes, then they are not needed. A simple rule could do this. So why were they created and what is their purpose.

[bilgewaterbill]

55. A distribution of SD's based on the PV means BO goes to the GE.

[seriousstan]

57. That doesn't answer my question. What is the purpose of the SD?

If it is to simply vote for whoever has the most delegates of PV then they are not needed. That can be done with a simple rule. I don't believe that was the reason they were invented.

[bilgewaterbill]

58. What do you want? The McGovern to Mondale history of the role?

The purpose of the SD and the simple reason they were "invented" was to keep the power in the hands of those that hold the power! Elected and appointed officials can overrule the will of the voters. We're not talking some "winner-take-all" anomaly here. BO has won more states, more delegates, and more popular votes. BUT, if the "Power" doesn't like our chances in the GE, then the SD's will give the nomination to HRC. And that's supposed to be OK.

[seriousstan]

61. Then the need is to get rid of the SD system. Otherwise these are the rules of the game.

Same way they are with the Fla. and Mich. votes. They don't count. The rules were clear. A re-vote could be argued to be fair but a formula based distribution is by nature bullshit.

You can't cry about the bias of the system that you are a part of and have enjoyed a career in. Show me where Obama has ever railed against the SD election structure.

[bilgewaterbill]

62. Ain't no cryin' goin' on Stan. Ain't nobody talking about MI and FL but HRC.

BO is ahead and the SD's should leave it that way. If they don't there's gonna be some serious 'splainin' to do beyond "Cuz we can."

[seriousstan]

63. To say the SD's should leave it that way is to deny them their right to exist.

They were created to act in this kind of condition.....when neither candidate has 2025. How they vote is their business. I highly doubt they will vote as a block for any one candidate. If your "splainin" and "cuz" is meant to inject race, you are mixing I Love Lucy and Good Times.

[bilgewaterbill]

65. And to deny that there will be repercussions should the SD's override

the will of the people is simply naive. As in driver's training - There's right and there's dead right.

[seriousstan]

66. I just wanted to know if you disagreed with the rule or just disagreed with it's use now.

[bilgewaterbill]

69. To be honest, I never thought of the rule until recently.

When they passed it I was a kid my kids' age. It never had any real effect until now. It still may not.

How about you?

[seriousstan]

71. I knew they existed and had no ties that bind whatsoever.

I accepted the game as the rules dictated. When the rules changed, I accepted the new game. Any rules I don't like, I vote against and try to persuade others. Our party is unique in the large number of SDs. That is telling. Perhaps this is the year major changes are made because the flaws became apparent.

[bilgewaterbill]

72. I just hope that the SD's are considering the long-term ramifications of

their decision. I'm sure some changes will result regardless.

It's been a pleasure, Stan! Best Wishes!

[seriousstan]

73. Adios

[bluestateguy]

67. Oh good

I see that you live in California.

For a minute there I worried that you lived in a swing state.

[pinto]

40. I'm going to vote for our nominee. n/t

[backscatter712]

42. Hillary's bigotry has permanently put her on my never-vote-for list.

Sorry, I only vote for Democrats.

And last time I checked, part of the Democratic Party platform was to oppose racism and discrimination wherever it is found.

[IndependentDem]

45. what about the whole lesser of two evils thing? Clinton is still better than McCain, right?

[backscatter712]

54. After her behavior against Obama, no I'm not sure she's truly the lesser of evils.

Lying, cheating, swiftboating, and flagrant bigoted race-baiting. I find this behavior to be completely unacceptable, and something I'd only expect from the GOP. Given her voting record as well, and her record of truthfulness (or lack thereof) I can't be sure she would act as a progressive when compare to McCain.

McCain's not getting my vote, don't worry about that, but I definitely would consider writing in Barack Obama this November if Clinton steals the nomination.

[IndependentDem]

56. fair enough..

i agree with much of what you said regarding Clinton's campaign.. and if you believe that McCain will be better than Clinton for the country-- that is your choice, and if you believe that a write in is not the same as a vote for McCain then thats fine too-- i just dont agree. but im always happy to agree to disagree :)

[elana i am]

43. won't vote for hillary

still debating to myself about obama. depends on my mood that day i guess, because i'm still inclined to write in the candidate that speaks for me.
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[jlake]

46. I would vote for either, but won't be too happy if it's Obama.

[IndependentDem]

47. its good to see that the majority of us still realize that ANY D is better than ANY R

[totodeinhere]

49. For Obama enthusiastically, and for Clinton reluctantly.

But I am a loyal Dem and she would be better than McCain.

[Arugula Latte]

50. If Hillary is the *gag* nominee, I *wretch* will vote for her. BUT ...

I will have to get massively LIQUORED up to do so! :beer: :beer: :beer:

on edit: Looked upthread after posting ... Looks like cali and I had the same thought.

[angie_love]

53. Both are better than McCain but I think Obamas the best for the job.

[Tresalisa]

59. Either one!

They'd both be great as president. :woohoo: :bounce:

[BlooInBloo]

64. Despite how sleazy and race baiting the Clinton/McCain strategy is...

... I'll still vote unhesitatingly for the eventual Democratic nominee.

[loyalsister]

68. As of right now

I would have a difficult time voting for Hillary Clinton given the nasty tactics I have seen.
Basically she would have to win me over. If that doesn't happen, I may exercise my withhold power and skip that question.

[gauguin57]

70. for those who won't vote for hillary ... what if she's the nominee ... you gonna vote for mccain?

Thanks a lot. I'll send you a postcard from new zealand if that happens.

[NaturalHigh]

77. I really don't know if I'll even vote, but I'll never vote for Mrs. Clinton.

Obama is still a question mark.

[better tomorrow]

74. I will vote for Obama and only for Hillary

at the last minute. For now, I am undecided if I could actually bring my self to connect my arrow for her. (We vote by connecting the arrowhead to the tail and feeding it into an optic scanner). I am in Florida so it probably won't make a difference as I am in a heavily RED area where McCain will most likely do well (Bush is coming here Tuesday, too) but for now I'm not even contemplating having to make a choice. It HAS to be Obama....but, I agree, I wouldn't want McCain in....

[Manifestor_of_Light]

75. Sexism is bad. Racism is bad.

And I don't like Hillary OR Obama, notwithstanding gender or race.

They are both corporate-owned. That's why.

[surfermaw]

78. Any one of them is better than a republican both of them together would be great