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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:12 AM
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If Obama is Going to Lose behind this Bullshit, This is the Way
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 10:14 AM by alcibiades_mystery
The cynics will now come out of the woodwork saying "He's a black candidate now. he's done!"

I don't care. This is an honest and honorable speech, perhaps the most honorable political speech we've seen in years.

He might lose behind it, but I wouldn't want to be the one who won behind the opposite. This is a remarkable and historic moment.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:13 AM
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1. You are right on.
He's saying it like it is.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:14 AM
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2. Honorable. That's the word I was looking for. You're right. n/t
PB
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:14 AM
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3. it sounds almost like a conversation, he seems totally comfortable and he;s tackling some
tough issues head on, he's not trying to duck anything.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:15 AM
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7. The honesty is jarring
We're so used to the opposite, the triangulating, the craven poll-driven nonsense.

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:14 AM
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4. this was truly both remarkable and historic.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:15 AM
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5. hear hear
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:15 AM
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6. Fucking A Man! K/R
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:16 AM
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8. I agree.
No matter what happens now, I'm at peace with it.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:16 AM
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9. Go make calls and donate money now!
If you feel this strongly, put your money where your mouth is.

And get on the horn. We've got work to do.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:17 AM
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10. The speech is excellent...
they want him to deny who he is, his color and religion...They want to keep pretending as they have done for years thats why this country is so f--ked up now. Go Barack!
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:18 AM
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11. what i want to know is-
how does he give these speeches without crying like a baby?
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:21 AM
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17. I know, if he cried, he could get a bounce, worked for Hillary!
Baaaaaawwwww!!! I found my voice!!! Baaaaaaaw!!!
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Noirceuil Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:18 AM
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12. I don't care how he loses...
I don't care how he loses as long as he does. You can only go so far on empty promises of hope and change.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:19 AM
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13. hi troll!
:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:21 AM
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18. Go away; FR's callin' ya. nt
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:21 AM
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20. Sure. Go McCain!
:sarcasm:

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:33 AM
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28. and if your Hillary wins the nomination, watch mccain win in a big way
you don't believe the Clinton haters are out there, you haven't seen anything yet

We will be reliving the Bill Clinton's affairs all over again

you haven't seen guilt by association until the trash is brought up on the Clintons


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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:37 AM
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29. Just wait until we start to relieve the sexual affairs of Bill Clinton all over again
You haven't seen guilt by association until the associations of the Clinton's are brought up

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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:46 AM
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30. well, we know that's true
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:29 PM
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32. I cannot believe you have the "Shame on you" speech as your sig line.
That speaks volumes.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:38 AM
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33. Read all 44 of your posts. Keep it up. You're almost there.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:20 AM
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14. As usual, you're right.
I wonder how his honesty will play. He is saying a lot of things that might cause discomfort to people of ALL races.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:20 AM
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15. How is the media reacting?
I didn't get to see the speech live, but I trust it was as moving and relevant as everyone here is describing it.

What will move this story forward now is how the press reacts. What are they saying? Did Obama do what he needed to today?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:21 AM
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19. They'll shit all over it, I suspect, and talk about "strategy" rather than substance
But their critiques will be very pale next to this display.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:21 AM
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21. He's not done yet
:)
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:27 AM
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23. Oh!
Thanks! Is he still doing well? I'm just ripped up over this, and so sad I can't watch it live.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:20 AM
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16. I know what you mean.
No matter what happens, I'm glad Obama played it straight. That's what attracts a lot of people to his campaign, the feeling that he reacts to things as an honest, intelligent human being, and not a media spin machine.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:23 AM
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22. i would agree.
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DUgosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:31 AM
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27. Hey Texas did you survive the storms last night
:hi: from south of Tarpley
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:27 AM
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24. He's the best person for the job.
Straight on. Let him speak to America and for America in the interest of truth and healing. Obama for President!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:28 AM
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25. Yes Lord. Honorable indeed. History making speech.
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 10:31 AM by Window
If he goes down behind this, the American people do not deserve him period, the good people of America will get exactly what they deserve.

He is truly a decent and upstanding man.
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Basement Beat Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:30 AM
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26. I had enough posts to REC. I would...
Because this speech is something special. Regardless of who we support, we all should realize how (in your words) honorable this speech truly is.
This is a defining moment.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:43 AM
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34. Consider half of one of the recs yours.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:26 PM
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31. K&R
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:52 AM
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35. Yep.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:03 AM
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36. It's time to see if America really wants an honest government.
And an honorable man to lead it.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:17 AM
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37. Whatever. His Rev was right.
The cock is crowing.
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