Welcome to Ignore.

[cbayer]

I have observed a very interesting phenomenon over the past week here at the playground.

There have always been a few who will emphatically reply to someone who has just posted something outrageous or offensive that they are now ignored.

Recently, however, there are whole groups of people telling everyone who states a position different than their own that they are ignored.

They even talk about sharing their lists or publicizing them so that everyone can see who they disagree with.

I am hopeful that whoever wins the democratic nomination does not share this philosophy. George Bush has ignored EVERYONE who has not shared his point of view and this very behavior has led us into unmitigated disaster.

Sticking your fingers in your ears while sticking out your tongue is not just juvenile, it can be your ruination.

But no one is likely to read this.

Because, as a supporter of both candidates, I am probably on everyone's ignore list.

[NightWatcher]

1. welcome to ignore

kidding. I can still see you

[cbayer]

5. Is there someone here talking to me?

:rofl:

Just kidding.

[Catch22Dem]

2. On one hand you have a point...

Sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending there are no dissenting opinions is childish. On the other hand, there ARE those who exist for no other reason than to stir up trouble on DU. I have a whopping 4 people on my ignore list and I think two of them are tombstoned.

[cbayer]

4. Not talking about you.

The ignore button does have it's legitimate uses. It's just this more recent phenomenon which I am noting. It doesn't bode well.

[bridgit]

3. It's so calm, and peaceful in here

:hippie:

[cbayer]

12. Is that because you can't see anyone?

If not, come on in and have a cup of tea.

[bridgit]

13. I see everything...

:hi:

[gristy]

80. Like an Obama meetup!

That's how someone else had characterized it, and I laughed and laughed! :D

[IDemo]

6. I ignore those who display only childish flame-bait behavior

Not simply for disagreeing with me or my political views. Unfortunately, there has been a flood of such posters over the past few months.

[knixphan]

11. yep. exactly.

[cbayer]

14. But do you scream at them first.

I love these:

"YOU ARE A FREAKING IDIOT FROM FREEPERVILLE WHO HASN'T A CLUE BECAUSE YOU YOU ARE AN OBAMATON/SHRILLARYITE!!! WELCOME TO IGNORE!!!"

[mcctatas]

7. I can never bring myself to ignore anyone...

I must be a glutton for punishment or a bleeding heart of the first order...
:think:

[cbayer]

15. I vote for bleeding heart.

Every time I try it, I wonder if I've made a mistake and might be discounting someone with some valuable points.

I only use it from time to time when I feel my head is about to explode. And then, only temporarily.

[babylonsister]

8. I think people are just tired of arguing; I know I am. nt

[cbayer]

16. I know sister.

Same arguments day after day.

I continue to appreciate your bringing in other subjects that help us remember why we are fighting.

[hfojvt]

70. not me. I come here looking for good arguments where I can learn and teach

But this isn't an argument. This is just contradiction!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_e8ETqWjdI

[faithfulcitizen]

9. Very good point. Nobody seems to open to other views or even willing to admit when they are wrong.

Not very democratic at all really.

[bridgit]

19. them's fight'n words, put up yer dukes!!

:headbang:

[cbayer]

20. Not democratic at all.

What happened to inclusion and tolerance?

I know that there are some really, really obnoxious people around here. But to ignore a different point of view and suspend all critical thinking is just appalling to me.

This is how Bush got where he is.

[thevoiceofreason]

10. Not mine!

[cbayer]

21. ...

:hi:

[tammywammy]

17. Ignored

Wait, what? Nah, I don't ignore anyone. I add those that I think are trolls to my buddy list. :)


A few weeks ago there was a poster on here proud, proud, that they had over 200 people on ignore. Hello, talk about an empty cave. How boring.

[cbayer]

25. Boring but easy.

You never have to think in that cave. You just talk to people who completely share your viewpoint and go to sleep feeling right.

That's why dubyah probably sleeps just fine.

[tammywammy]

30. That's exactly it

I don't have a problem with Clinton supporters on here. I love the threads where they really talk about what it is that appeals and draws them to Clinton.

I hate the "Obama/Clinton's going down!!1!11!!" threads. I hate the in-your-face type of threads. I dunno, but then again, I've always stuck with you attract more flies with honey than vinegar approach.

[Voice for Peace]

77. That's exactly it, again.

I've only recently started to ignore a few people but I hesitate with that button because I really am interested in the opposing views. However some of it is just plain nasty bullshit and there's no open door for respect or discussion... after a while those get old.

[Doctor_J]

18. You won't make my ignore list unless you bash EITHER candidate

in an unconstructive fashion. I support Obama but some of my compatriots have made it to my list by posting ridiculous hate radio crap about Sen. Clinton.

[cbayer]

27. Repeated offenders? or just one perhaps having a bad moment?

Perhaps just reacting to having been beaten up in another thread?

Sometimes I ask these people what they mean or what they hope to accomplish, and from time to time I get a reasonable response and see more measured postings from them.

But most of the time they ignore me.

[plantwomyn]

22. I have noticed this too.

I think it's a cop out. It's like "Take that"! It's the ultimate cop out when a posters rant ends with YOUR IGNORED. Very adult.
I do not ignore anyone. Though many times the temptation has been almost overwhelming, I will NEVER hit that button. It's the equivalent for me of watching FAUX NEWS. You've got to know your enemy to fight them.
It does make it hard sometimes to stay within the rules. The urge to tell them to BITE ME is huge. Of course they wouldn't see it because I am IGNORED!
:tinfoilhat:

[cbayer]

33. You have the added burden of the dreaded low post count

even though you are not new.

I agree with what you say. Listen to your friends. Listen even more closely to your enemies.

[plantwomyn]

52. Close to my first anniversary!

I don't post much of the "Thanks" "Hi" of smiley nt kind of posts. I'm sure there are some who have put me on ignore that wish I did just post one word replies.

[Beregond2]

23. Ignore

I held to your idealistic position as long as I could, but it was getting to the point where it was taking far too much time to wade through all the trash posts before finding anytyhng worth reading. So in the past week I have started putting all the morons on "Ignore," and suddenly DU is a pleasant, informative, interesting place again. I don't use because someone supports another candidate; just for those who are incapable of reason and decency. I see no reason to apologize for that.

[cbayer]

35. I don't expect you to apologize at all.

The ignore feature has it's merits and everyone has the right to use it at their discretion.

It is using it as a weapon and as a means to avoid any other opinion that I object to.

[rug]

24. It's asinine to enter a group called General Discussion and Ignore.

[mcctatas]

28. Well of course it is...

but if you enter General Discussion: Primaries...:evilgrin:

[cbayer]

37. I would like to take this opportunity to say

that I love your posts. Witty and pithy and generally spot-on.

[rug]

41. Thanks.

:hi:

[UALRBSofL]

26. I can see you and I don't have you on ignore

I just go on about my business when someone says they are putting so-and-so on ignore. I just think, I guess I don't fit the Obama mold. :rofl:

[cbayer]

36. I can see you too.

I don't respond to the individuals either. I was just noting the phenomenon and reflecting on it's possible outcome.

:hi:

[grantcart]

29. I don't have anybody on ignore and I like your post but I have never seen you say anything

approaching support for Sen. Obama - but I could be wrong

[cbayer]

40. You are wrong.

Though I probably defend Clinton more than I do Obama. Under-dog thing for me.

[grantcart]

79. Yes I think I was confusing you with someone with a similar name

[A-Schwarzenegger]

31. Couldn't care less who has who on ignore or not, or why.

[cbayer]

43. In light of that,

I would like to thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my OP.

:hi:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

47. Welcome, peace.

:-)

[cbayer]

49. Peace back to you.

:hi:

[Georgie_92]

32. I like your smurf, I collect Smurfs!

[olkaz]

34. Ignore is very useful for trolls with no chance of redemption.

I could list a few, but honestly, they'd probably get off on it.

[cbayer]

45. See, I am not sure that I have the ability to make that determination.

I honestly don't think I know who's a troll and who isn't. I am certain that I don't know who has a chance of redemption and who doesn't.

But if you have clarity with some individuals, there is nothing wrong with ignoring them.

I would object to you listing them, however.

[olkaz]

90. I let them dig a deep hole first.

I don't go around ignoring like crazy, if that's what you mean.

[Lisa0825]

38. I don't see Ignore here so far....

I never used Ignore until about a month ago, and I have been here 5 or so years. My feeling was that I wanted to know what those with opposing views were saying so I could respond, rather than let it go. But there have been so many people this election season that are so vitriolic and idiotic, that I finally gave in and started to use ignore. I have about a dozen on it, and I think at least half of them have now been tombstoned.

I added 2 more tonight. But I do intend to continue to use it sparingly.

[cbayer]

48. I suspect you represent most people.

And your track record in terms of who gets ts'ed speaks to your ability to rather accurately judge the motives of some posters.

It's not you that scares me.

[emilyg]

39. k/r

[boppers]

42. None of these folks so far are on ignore...

I guess the people with crazy long ignore lists can't find this thread. ;)

[cbayer]

51. Or they have me on ignore. nt.

[AlCzervik]

44. can you see me?

i can see you.:D i don't have anyone on ignore, i did have one person on for awhile but that was more for self preservation, i didn't think i could keep a civil tongue in my head around them but i'm working on impulse control.

[cbayer]

53. Of course I can see you.

:hi:
When i feel like I am going to bite someone's head off, I try a little rant (like this OP). It generally brings the best people into the room and gives me the chance for some civil conversation.

[TK421]

46. Yeah...welcome to ignore seems to be the answer to I don't want to hear anything you have to say

regardless of whether or not it has any significance to the OP or issue at hand...shit, if I made anyones ignore list, I'll probably be honored to do so. Ignore at your will...this is only ONE internet message board out of many. I won't be losing any sleep over it. It seems rather childish

[cbayer]

55. Parlimentarian rule prohbits one from making a speech before callling the question.

And it's a good rule.

If you are going to end the debate, then you can not make the last speech.

If you choose to ignore someone, you really shouldn't tell them what a POS they are first. That's a weapon, not a decision.

[TK421]

57. Alright...I get it now, I think....this place is starting to suck out loud

but from what I understand from other DU'ers, it's like this with every primary :shrug:

[seaglass]

50. I had a number of people on ignore during the 2004 primaries.

Mostly because I was afraid of what I would say to them, I'd get so angry - and of course back then there were repercussions for acting like an asshole.

You would think those who have 200 people on their ignore list would be the calmest, most positive posters on the board, but it's not the case.

I think the more people you have on your ignore list, the nastier you are.

[cbayer]

56. Perhaps # of ignores is porportionately related to ignorance? nt.

[GoldieAZ49]

54. Ignorance is bliss

living in a bubble when you only listen to or speak to people that agree with you, is a very narrow existence and leads to disappointment when your hopes are dashed, then blame someone else for it because you could not bear to see it coming.

a temporary state of bliss for the ignorant

kinda like, drugs are for people that cannot handle reality, ignore fosters ignorance

[cbayer]

58. Exactly. Bush, Bush, Bush and more Bush.

Your description so accurately describe our president.

I do not want people who live in a bubble to represent me or speak for me or make decisions that effect my life.

[GoldieAZ49]

59. with all the yes men he has surrounding him he cannot hear

the roaring NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO from the American public

[Auntie Bush]

60. Not mine!

But some people around here have long long lists of everyone they don't agree with. They will also NEVER vote for the other team even in the GE. They care more about their own personal hatred than they do the election and beating the sh** out of republicans.

lol Edited to replace Primary with GE

[cbayer]

63. Yep, and they scare me.

Because I fear they will abandon us at the critical moment.

[KaptBunnyPants]

61. For the most part I'm only putting Hillary supporters on temporary ignore.

I'm hoping they'll join the team in a few weeks, and I can go back to putting people on ignore by an asshole by asshole basis. This ultra-negative mode her supporters have gone into has been surreal, especially considering the state of her increasingly moot campaign. I'm sick of seeing constant negative attacks on the man who has already effectively won the nomination. We need to be fighting McCain.

[cbayer]

67. All of them?

Or only the strident few who insist on dumping on positive posts or gloating over struggles encountered in the campaign? I feel pretty confident that most supporters of both candidates share similar values and should not be ignored.

And because I support both candidates, I recognize that each team has their POV on this and not all will agree with you.

[KaptBunnyPants]

76. What is the Clinton POV on this?

I've tried asking Clinton supporters this, and none of them respond. How does Clinton win? I've seen several arguments detailing why Clinton's delegate lead is insurmountable, but I've never seen a response. I even tried to look up "how Hillary can win" earlier today, and I only got articles from last Summer. Surely they'd have a response article out by now, after so many have commented on it.

Oh, and to answer your question, I started out with just a few strident ones. But this has been getting so out of control that the list just keep growing. I checked and quite a few of the people I set to ignore either disabled their accounts or were banned. I'm still hoping the others will come around.

[cbayer]

83. I doubt very much that she has a POV on the ignore function at DU.

She seems to be quite busy right now.

:hi:

[here_is_to_hope]

62. Only one 'ignore' in this whole thread so far for me...

I am in good company I suppose...:evilgrin:

[cbayer]

71. There is only one partisan reply here.

Most have chosen to comment on the issue without saying ANYTHING negative about either candidate or their supporters.

It's really a nice thing to see.

[DemzRock]

64. Ignore is a waste of time.

I like to see all views even the disgusting ones.

[JoFerret]

65. Badge of honor to be on some poster's ignore list

.

[cbayer]

75. Could you elaborate? nt.

[JoFerret]

85. I guess I mean that

being on the ignore list of the posters that insult, demean and abuse is no shame.

[cbayer]

93. Gotcha.

I just wondered if you thought getting that response was an honor because you drove them to it.
:hi:

[Political Heretic]

66. I've noticed it too.

:shrug: What can ya do?

[cbayer]

72. Not much.

I just wanted to talk about it in a bigger context.

Because Bush has used this tactic and I don't find it to be the way democrats should go.

[Tresalisa]

68. I'm also a supporter of both candidates,

and the way things have been here lately, I CAN'T WAIT for us to finally have one of them as our nominee!

George Bush has ignored EVERYONE who has not shared his point of view and this very behavior has led us into unmitigated disaster. Very good point! :bounce:


I don't know how many ignore lists I'm on, and I don't really care, but I haven't placed anyone on ignore. I'm just selective in the posts here in GD-P which I read, and which posters replies I read sometimes.

[cbayer]

69. Another bi-candidate!

disclaimer: I stole that term from another DU'er who stole it from Margaret Cho.

:hi:

[Tresalisa]

74. LOL! I likes it, I likes it a lot! Bi-Candidate! n/t

[rox63]

73. I have about a dozen people on ignore

Simply because they repeatedly post things I find reprehensible. I occasionally go through my list, and find out one of them has been tombstoned. So I take them off. And when they rejoin under a new name and start posting the same crap again, they go back on the list. So it always stays at about a dozen.

BTW, no one on my ignore list has posted on this thread so far. So I can see all of you. :hi:

[Muttocracy]

86. same here for my use of ignore

many of them are early disrupters - the mods get them soon, but I don't want to wade through their junk to get to interesting and informative posts. And some people are so irrational or hateful about one of the candidates I just figure, I'm not going to learn much from someone like that. Or someone who attacks someone (me or someone else) irrationally. Maybe they'll calm down in a few months.

GD:P is not nearly as bad for me as some describe, so I must have ignored some of the key troublemakers!

The 3-post rule is probably helping too.

[depakid]

78. "I am probably on everyone's ignore list."

:rofl:

ditto.

[musicblind]

81. I agree 100% and rec'd ur thread!

I have never used ignore. Ignore is just a sister word for ignorance. It reminds me of the right wingers who refuse to listen to evidence of evolution. I have seen people be "ignored" for merely MENTIONING Rev. Wright in a negative manner. It is important we all listen to desenting views on a regular basis. I listened to Michael Savage today, I can't stand him, makes me want to puke, but I forced myself because it is important that I get BOTH sides of the story. If I had my way, the only people I'd ever listen to would be Bill Maher, John Stewart, Michael Moore and DU... but that be an awfully lonely and quiet world. :(

[cbayer]

94. I listen to RW radio whenever on the road

but not at home. Interesting. I think it has to do with contaminating my home or something.

Dissenting opinion is crucial to informed decision making.

[JuniperLea]

82. Mainly, I've only seen people put others on ignore for being

A real asshole, name calling and such.

For a difference of opinion? I've not seen that, but if that's what is happening... how stupid.

[NashVegas]

84. I'm Not Really Sure What Your Problem Is

While there are posting rules, remaining civil at all times is not one of them.

Uncivil posters derail meaningful conversation far more often than inspire it. Some people take the First Amendment so seriously, they confuse the right to free speech with the right to be heard, and so chastise others for using the ignore function. Of the latter, there is no such right.

Most of the people on DUers ignore lists got there for good reason. I can't control others' speech, and I can't make up a DU rule that all assholes must be tombstoned. But I can use the ignore function and remove those persons' ability to anger me.

[cbayer]

95. Actually, civility is a rule here at DU.

I'm not chastising anyone for using ignore. I've used it myself. I am just observing the trend of ignoring people simply for disagreeing and crowing about it at the same. time.

[goldcanyonaz]

87. GD-P is in full circle jerk mode.

If you're not with Obama then you're against humanity.

[cbayer]

101. Cuts both ways.

As some one without a side, I hope I can see it both ways.

[IsItJustMe]

88. Have never used it for the reasons you stated in your post.

[cbayer]

102. I instinctually like you.

I like what you post.

Something is right about it.

Peace.

[October]

89. I know!

This post made me laugh out loud because I just read another thread wherein someone said "Welcome to ignore" to a fellow DUer with whom they disagreed. <sigh> I was thinking it's becoming an odd trend to announce your ignoring of someone...and along comes your thread. :)

Honestly, if you want to ignore, then ignore. But to ANNOUNCE that you're ignoring is funny. The Internet and email have made people BRAVE (!) behind screens -- willing to say anything and mostly say things they'd never dare say to someone's face.

I have never put anyone on ignore, so -- it's just you and me here I guess -- supporting both DEM candidates.

Too funny.


Edited for grammar.

[cbayer]

96. It's so kindegarten.

I remember when the boys marked my face with green magic marker because they didn't like me.

It's a false bravery promoted by a false sense of strength because you are a member of a group.

We are not the only bi-candidates here (term stolen from another DU poster who stole it from Margaret Cho). We have just been cowed by the intense partisanship.

Very nice to meet you. :hi:

[Arkansas Granny]

91. I don't have an ignore list. There are a few here that seem to never have anything

to say of any substance, but I've found that I can easily ignore them without a button. I like to listen to both sides of an argument anyway so I feel that I have all the info I need to make a decision. Even some that I have found to be obnoxious on occassion sometimes make a point that I had never considered.

[cbayer]

100. I concur. Even those that are obnoxious sometimes have something very valuable to say.

I have learned from many and I hope some have learned from me.

Nice to meet you, AG. :hi:

[kevinmc]

92. I find your Smurf pict offensive ...... you're on Ignore ... n/t

[cbayer]

99. Why do you hate smurfs? nt.

[FlyingSquirrel]

97. Personally I'm getting tired of hearing everyone but me.

So I'm putting the whole board on Ignore and I'm just gonna talk to myself.

Talk.

Talk.

Talk.

Who are all these ignored people replying to me? Why don't they just go away?

:rofl:

Seriously I'm building up a small list 'cause DU is just too friggin' boring without GDP but certain crap I just don't want to look at right now. But my list is nowhere near the 200-300 range I hear some people boast of. It's about 40 right now although one of them just got TS'd so I guess I can remove him. It just gives me too much pleasure to click on his profile once in awhile and admire his granite cookie.

[cbayer]

98. Dancing on graves, huh.

I want to see you do the funky chicken.

Oh no, I brought up chicken.

IBFTL.

[cbayer]

103. Smoochies to all the good people on DU.

You are doing a great job.

You are influencing people that can influence people.

Thanks for spending the time and thanks for thinking.

Kum-bay-f'in-yah.