Obama - Do As I say and Not as I Do

[emilyg]

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by jayatl, Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:36:27 PM EST

How is that Obama asks us to do as he says and not he does? a simple poll to ask a simple question on whether you excuse him asking american people.

1. I ask you to trust me while I was dishonest w/ the american public about hearing any anti hate speech in the pews
2. I ask of my fellow americans to act on racial issues, while I stood by and let it fly in my chur

more...http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/18/223627/502

[saltpoint]

1. D-minus.

[Binka]

13. I ask of my fellow americans to act on racial issues, while I stood by and let it fly in my chur

I say this is an F. I mean they let it fly in their chur. Little Miss Emily has some growing up to do. F. Big Fat Fucking F! Hi Em, how ya doing? Have a blessed evening dear!

[DJ13]

2. Your candidate is history, get over it

[Name removed]

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[emilyg]

15. Change of topic?

[GarbagemanLB]

4. There was no contradiction. If you think there was, I'd suggest you re-examine what he said.

[billbuckhead]

5. Why did Oprah quit this church?

I guess she outgrew it.

[kwassa]

11. prove she quit. give us a cite.

as you keep spreading unsupported rumors of your very own.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

6. I hate to put someone with such a cute tabby cat avatar on ignore

But some things just need to be done.

[BenDavid]

7. Obama started this whole thing by trying to appear unknowledgable

of what Wright was really all about and what he was preaching every week. THAT moment is where Obama really screwed up everything for himself. If he wasn’t so arrogant and would have been prepared for the inevitablity of being questioned about his racist, anti-US, anti-semetic, separatist church, he (more than likely) could have sailed through it and possibly even flipped it against his opponents. But now, Obama is on a downward spiral and won’t recover.

Only arrogance and stupidity would have made Obama think these things wouldn’t have been a big deal. Even a few far left libs see this now. One good thing is that it will be fun to see Michelle really have to cool down her race-baiting rhetoric for a while.

[KAZ]

17. The fucking whack-job lives on. No matter what. You can alert..

.. you can appeal to the greater DU good. But this nut-case, this board embarrassment, just lives on and on. He must have a DU soul hole that protects him.

[FlyingSquirrel]

31. Lives on my ignore list is where he lives. Try it, you'll like it.

[cali]

48. Why blatant racists and anti-Muslim bigots are allowed

to continue posting here is a mystery to me.

[JoFerret]

56. It's always a good plan when uniting people

to attack them in personal ways. A most effective technique in bringing people together.

[Forkboy]

25. What the fuck would YOU know about "far left libs"?

Other than what Hannity and Rush tell you to think? :rofl:

[Spiffarino]

32. Criminy

You again?

[bowens43]

47. THat is spinning that borders on being an out right lie. nt

[JTFrog]

51. And if you weren't so ignorant and racist we'd never hear a word from you. n/t

[panader0]

8. "anti-hate speech" WTF?

I thought anti-hate was good.........

[marmar]

9. Another laughably (in a pathetic way) stupid post....

:eyes:

[Binka]

16. Dear Gawd Respect What Emily Wrote She Rode The Short Bus For Gawd's Sake

She TRIES really hard to catch up.

[alcibiades_mystery]

21. You're so evil

:rofl:

[Binka]

27. I Am Being Sincere! Stop Laughing At This!

Jesus you haters are just so full of, of, of, of, well ficking hate! Stop pissing on Em's chur.

[JeffR]

24. Not nice & not necessary

I think Emily's recent posts have been terribly unworthy of her, but that's a little bit beyond the bounds of fair comment, even as satire.

[kwassa]

10. If they can't even write a single sentence, why respond? The illiterati strike again.

[boppers]

22. The Illiterati? I love it!

Trying to take over the world, one poorly formed thought at a time!

[screembloodymurder]

12. I never thought racism would rear its ugly head in the DU,

but I'm beginning to think Hillary's support has an dark underbelly.

[elixir]

14. Thanks, EmilyG for shedding some light on the Great One.

[girl gone mad]

18. I'm really sick of this stuff showing up..

on the greatest page.

Write a few short sentences in criticism of Obama with no real thought or care, instantly get other Hillary supporters to vote you up.

[Forkboy]

26. Both sides do that.

Nature of the game, sadly.

[girl gone mad]

42. Yes, you're right. I meant to say..

and vice-versa.

[maddiejoan]

33. Thanks for reminding me!

K&R

[girl gone mad]

44. It's not helping your candidate..

in the least.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

45. The Hillary Supporter Forum is their lair. The link to the OP is posted there

and the participants are asked to go swarm to post in GD-P. It is really ugly.

[boppers]

19. jayatl needs to work on reading comprehension.

1. Obama never said that.
2. That isn't what Obama did.

[1800flowers]

20. Great observation

Obama needs to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

[JeffR]

29. It would indeed be a great observation

if it made any sense.

[thereismore]

23. Your cat is not cute and I am Ignoring you. nt

[JeffR]

28. Having just tried to deflect a little nastiness thrown at you upthread

I really have to say that this post and a few others you've made recently call your judgment into question.

Only a willful misreading of Obama's statements last week and his speech today could result in the absurd sophistry you quoted in your OP.

Obama didn't need to venture into a lot of territory that he very decisively ventured into this morning. But he did. And he deserves immense credit for doing so, even if you favor another candidate. If there are puerile remarks made here frequently about Senator Clinton, and there are, please explain to us - or to yourself - how perpetuating the juvenalia helps your candidate. I'm really keen to hear your response on that.

[emilyg]

34. He ventured where he had to

he's a politician trying to win.

[JeffR]

35. He did that, and went way the hell beyond it

and no matter what sort of a partisan you are, you should be able to recognize and respect that. But you don't.

[emilyg]

37. I do respect that.

Honestly - just don't like or trust him. I'm entitled to my feelings.

[JeffR]

38. If you don't like or trust him, that's fine. You have every right.

but you've been flirting with some really scurrilous sources recently, and that bothers me.

[pointsoflight]

30. You're exactly wrong.

He is asking us to do EXACTLY what he has done. He reaches out to black americans from older generations, even though he himself hasn't shared all of their experiences, does not harbor their resentment, and does not agree with what they sometimes say. This is what he is asking all of us to do. Seek to understand and extend the olive branch, so that we may all move forward together.

[The_Casual_Observer]

36. Why did he give that speech today?

[Colobo]

39. I love you emily, but you are wrong on this.

[mythyc]

40. I make it a rule NOT to participate in polls whose inherent Bias blares blears and blurs

You can tell them immediately. Each and every answer buries the "targeted" party.

Don't dignify them. Ignore and move on.

Main Fallacy: "Loaded Question"

Sub-Fallacies: see response #35 here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5060038#5072643

[MessiahRp]

41. mydd is a Clinton site

I'd expect no less than lies from them.

Rp

[EFerrari]

43. Wow. How clueless. n/t

[bowens43]

46. He wasn't dishonest, but you are.

i suggest you actually listen to the speech.

[mythyc]

49. notice how either answer to that poll condemns both the candidate and his every supporter?

it's called a loaded question. kind of like push polling (colbert has a great segment on it -- first vid on indecision2008.com), but "pretends" to be legit, which makes it all the more heinous and nauseating. If you really want to delve into how distrubingly fascist thinking like this is on the (il)logical level, check the link in my post above.

tho really, please people, don't keep sending a thread this useless up to the top. just quit replying and it'll wither back into the obscurity in which it belongs.

[JCMach1]

50. Once their latest Obamagasms are over, they will realize their candidate

is finished soon enough.

Until then, cognitive dissonance is a bitch.

[JTFrog]

52. Another Opposite Day in HillaryWorld.

At least we reached Orgasm. That premature ejaculatory campaign of hers must have hurt.

[mythyc]

54. it must be sad to be so hateful, and stereotypical

whole scale massive cognitive dissonance. every last one of his supporters. sure thing cupcake.

all i see in a statement like that are sweeping generalizations borderlining on fanatic equivocation and a severely unnecessary need to demean for its own sake, not to mention all the grit in the gears betrayed by this support for such a fascist, fallacy-ridden thread and poll.

[pnwmom]

53. He said nothing of the kind.

He had said he wasn't present when the "damn America" sermon was made, and other DUers have found proof that he was actually out of state that day.

[casus belli]

55. Ignored, sorry. I can't take any more of this... n/t