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Tue Mar-18-08 10:59 PM
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Poll question: Have you ever had a friend or realtive use a racial expletive? |
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:01 PM
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:02 PM
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3. I think most people have. More likely if that friend or relative is from an earlier |
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:02 PM
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:02 PM
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4. and he got three days off work because of it, too..... |
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:03 PM
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5. Hell yea, I grew up in a Texas town where we had one black man and talk about one minority looking |
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down on another one, Mexican Americans believed they were lazy and didn't want to work like our families did in the fields picking crops. It's changed over time, thank God.
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:04 PM
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6. It isn't unique to any race or religion /nt |
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:06 PM
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7. Oh, hell yeah....people I loved and were otherwise decent people. |
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Friends and family. A little piece of myself always died when it was uttered.
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:09 PM
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11. I hear you. It usually someone from the older generation from my experience, |
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and there is very little you can do because you were just a kid when it happened
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:06 PM
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8. Lately, it's only much older people, but I grew up in the SW suburbs.. |
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.. of Chicago in the 60/70's. It was rampant in my town.
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:07 PM
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9. Yes. I had a boyfriend who was over for the night say one. |
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Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 11:08 PM by swimmernsecretsea
He was talking to me, while I was trying to go to sleep, droning on about something while I was pretending to listen. I heard him say the "n" word, and sat bolt upright and asked him to repeat what he'd just said. He laughed and said "we all say that in Texas." I took a second, then looked him straight in the eye and said, calmly, "Do not ever say that ugly racial slur in my presence ever again." I was apalled. I knew that he has a friend who's African American. He promptly got out of bed, walked to the living room, and slept on the couch.
Dumped that piano off my back after he left my house.
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:07 PM
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10. If you get a no vote, they're lying. |
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:12 PM
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13. Maybe that won't be the case a generation from now? /nt |
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:28 PM
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22. or very young, perhaps |
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:11 PM
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my grandmother was the worst.
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:13 PM
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14. and there isn't anything you can do about it to change them /nt |
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:14 PM
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15. I'm a substitute teacher in a suburban school |
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district in Southern California. The kids use plenty of racial expletives. I was subbing in a "resource" class of low achievers one day not long ago when a white kid and black kid, both 8th graders, started verbally sparring and the white kid flung the "n" word in the black kid's direction. I immediately ordered him to gather his stuff and go directly to the dean's office. While he was gone, the class started speculating on what punishment he would receive. They figured it would be bad. Nah. He was back in class within 5 minutes. Got a slap on the wrist and told not to say it again.
I couldn't believe it. What a lesson for those kids. That day they learned that even the most vile racial slur isn't considered a big deal by their school administrators.
As far as friends and relatives using racial slurs, unfortunately, yes. A lot of the racism, though, is under the surface, but it's there nonetheless.
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:16 PM
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16. That is pretty unbelievable that the school administrator effectively ignore it |
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I wonder if the kids that use it are influenced by the rap music they hear?
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Wed Mar-19-08 12:37 AM
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32. I think rap music is a part of it, but for the most part these |
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are white upper middle class kids who live in a bubble and feel superior.
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:21 PM
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17. Yeah, but they often start by saying... |
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"I'm not a racist or anything, but...".
I suppose it's a slight move in the right direction at the least...
I still love 'em, though. As they still love me, even after me brow-beating them to no end for saying saying the stupid ass thing in the first place!
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:23 PM
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18. Of course he was African-American |
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and he said it to me in a friendly context. It was still hard to know quite how to respond.
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:24 PM
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19. My dad, a WW2 vet of Okinawa, used to call the Japanese |
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J@#s, N#$s and G@@!s. I asked him why he called them that and he said "well, that's what we called them."
Rest is Peace Dad, I miss you very much. :cry:
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:25 PM
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20. who said no...is that you St. Patrick? |
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:28 PM
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21. Yeah my mom practically every day of her life |
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So I can relate to Obama's feelings toward his grandmother. She was a great mom, served in WWII, taught us how to ride and shoot while my dad was working and attending college, but she had this blind spot.
Ironically through some genealogical research we discovered after the death of both my parents that my dad, an orphan who believed he was part native American, may have also been part African American as well. We still chuckle that that would have been the ultimate irony.
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:32 PM
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He was an awesome person, very smart and a great inspiration to me, but man... he did not hold back with the N word. :(
Different generation. :(
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:49 PM
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24. In the late 70's I was a foster parent.... |
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a special child was mine for about two years.His name was Eric and he was a mixed racial child with developemental disabilities I won't go into.One of my uncles on my dad's side had also been a foster parent and wound up adopting a set of mixed racial twins....So my wife and I were camping with the kids and another uncle on my fathers side was there....late at night and after some drinking he begged me "Please, don't bring anymore nigger kids into the family"...And the sad part was he loved the kid and treated him well, but just hated the idea of one more of "them" legally carrying "our" last name....Richie passed to his reward and you aught not think badly about him-he was a kind and gentle soul who regretted and apologized for what he said and I believe he was sincere. I'm closing on 55 years old and remember that night and remark 30 years later. But we each of us come from our own place and time and in those 55 years I used rascist and sexist and homophobic terms.I'm not proud of it but if that speech today meant anything we all have a lot to come to grips with...
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:56 PM
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25. Anybody tell a polack joke lately? :( |
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It's been about 4 days since I heard somebody say something hateful/stereotypical/nasty, longest run was about 8 weeks before that.
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Tue Mar-18-08 11:59 PM
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26. Yes. My Mother and Father and my Father-in-law and |
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my sister-in-law. Charming people all. :sarcasm:
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Wed Mar-19-08 12:00 AM
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27. Yes. And that's exactly what I remember him for. |
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Thank goodness we're only related by marriage, so I owe him no loyalty or "understanding." I don't speak to him.
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Wed Mar-19-08 12:00 AM
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28. Ive heard multiple loyal, white democrats drop the N bomb many times |
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these same "democrats" are hillary supporters.
this is why i highly distrust the rabid obama haters here.
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Wed Mar-19-08 12:10 AM
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29. My dad and his family, who were all from a small rural area of Arkansas. |
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Made me cringe every time.
And once, when she was about 10, my youngest sister used the "N" word. I don't think she knew what it really meant; I think she either heard Dad say it, or someone else. I sat her down and talked to her about the word, and what it meant, and how it wasn't a word to be used by white people. She said she didn't realize it (and I believed her), and she's never used it again. In fact, if she hears someone else using it, she gets after them.
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Wed Mar-19-08 12:31 AM
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Was a WWI veteran and a lifelong school teacher, solid presbyterian, one of the most proper and mild mannered people you would want to meet. A respected man in his community. I was the youngest of 6, so he was a old man by the time I came along. I always saw him as so proper and polite and given that I was a bit of a hellion, he never yelled at me or anything, but I got my share of disapproving looks at my antics. Anyway, one day he was visiting our house, this would have been in the mid 70's and he was in his 70's as well. I was watching Welcome Back Kotter when my grandfather walked into the room and sat down. Didn't say a word to me, which wasn't unusual. He sat there for a few minutes, stood up shaking his head and just said "Niggers, niggers, niggers" and walked out of the room. I was speechless.
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Wed Mar-19-08 12:35 AM
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31. Yes my grandma and boyfriends grandpa would say the "n" word alot |
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I know they are decent good people but come from a very different generation than I do. It fascinating how my generation looks at race, it becomes less impt through each passing one. I'm proud of that.
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