thesubstanceofdreams
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:15 AM
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Rasmussen poll of CO: McCain and Obama tied, McCain leads Hillary by 14 points |
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Even in his worst moment, Obama STILL has the ability to turn more red states blue. After his speech he will regain momentum and he'll start doing better in all polls. It'll take about a week. GOBAMA!!!!!!!!!! http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/colorado/colorado_2008_presidential_election
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:27 AM
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:56 AM
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5. CO will always be red and you are delusional if you think Obama can turn it blue |
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:02 AM
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I believe that Colorado now has a Democratic Governor, and at least one house of their legislature has gone Dem.
So it is trending Democrat.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:20 AM
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14. Great signs in CO, definitely, but going (D) in a Pres. election isn't happening |
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You need to have the right kind of Dem candidate; preferably a Westerner, to have any shot to win it in a presidential election. Obama and Clinton aren't getting it done. I do think that Obama will be more competitive there than Hillary; but not enough to win it, so it won't make a difference where it counts, its 9 electoral votes.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:24 AM
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my HARDCORE Republican Father (retired military, lives in Colorado Springs) has never voted for a Democrat.
He informed me the other day he really like Obama. And I know for a fact that he doesn't like McCain. No he didn't say he would vote for Obama. But if my Dad likes him...he definitely has a shot in this state. My Father's a pretty good representative on what's going on in the brains of a large demography...those Veterans and their families in Colorado Springs.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:29 AM
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24. Obama has a shot to win it, but it will be among the toughest competitive states. |
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I think 2012 will be a year that we have a great shot to win Colorado. Demographic changes take time, and by then we'll be in great shape, I believe.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:35 AM
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27. Uh...are you people daft? |
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WE....HAVE....BEEN....TRENDING....BLUE.....FOR....SEVERAL....CYCLES!!!!
Replaced Republican Gov with Dem Gov. Our State House and Senate were won back by the Dems. We are voting for the Democrats.
What part of this don't you guys understand?
I'm actually kind of offended here. I feel like we have some posters that ARE NOT FROM HERE...are not taking our trends into account...and are blindly writing us off.
I mean...wtf. You people don't phone bank here. You people don't canvas here. You don't know shit about our state.
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:37 AM
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:04 AM
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8. Care to explain your reasoning, oh wise one? |
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Maybe you forgot to take into account that since 2004 we (the Democrats) have retaken and held both houses of the legislature for the first time since the 1960 election, replaced a Republican Senator with a Democratic one, replaced a Republican Gov. with a Democratic one, and gone from 3-4 in the House delegation to 5-2 in our favor.
What I can tell you from years of living here is that a lot of people have a paranoid visceral reaction to Clinton which, although unjustified, will destroy her chances in Colorado. Obama is a fresh face about whom people do not have preconceived notions, and while that won't guarantee him a win in our state, it obviously puts him in a much better stead than Clinton.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:24 AM
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17. read the comments in the Denver Post from after Obama's speech...very telling |
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Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 10:26 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:26 AM
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well look at this one with the online reader poll http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_8618721
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:29 AM
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I can't tell if the F voters are racist or Clinton supporters (sorry, couldn't resist that dig). Honestly, I think those people who voted F are just scared of the next president.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:34 AM
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26. Yeah, that's a significant sample |
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Almost as good as, oh, all those votes the Democratic candidates have been winning of late :sarcasm:
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Wed Mar-19-08 01:18 PM
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42. the same dipshits who post there post at my newspaper in Alaska |
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I have a feeling, from your posting, that you don't know what you're talking about. How many things have to go blue -legislature and governor- before it is blue?
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:12 AM
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11. That isn't my idea of a 50 state strategy |
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:16 AM
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13. Are you from Colorado? |
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Are you involved in our politics?
Because we've been trending blue for several cycles now...and it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:25 AM
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19. I have family in Aspen and Boulder |
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:28 AM
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23. Have you lived in Colorado? |
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I have family in Chicago. It doesn't mean I know more about Illinois politics.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:45 AM
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28. you're gonna get dizzy from all your silly spinning |
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:50 AM
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you're right.
Tell me about Colorado.
Please...I know nothing about that place. Please, continue. I'm sorry I interrupted you.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:56 AM
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31. You know what actually? |
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Fuck you.
You know nothing about Colorado politics. You haven't knocked on one door. You haven't sat in a call center in downtown Denver for weeks on end making calls for the Colorado Democratic candidates.
So do us ACTUAL Coloradoans a favor:
Shut your unknowledgeable pie hole.
You don't want our vote or our blood, sweat, and tears to get the nominee elected? Then hit the fucking bricks. We don't need your type giving pep talks.
This message brought to you by all the Colorado Democrats you cheesed off in this thread.
It's amazing. I've been taking the high road for weeks now. But I am truly insulted by your condescending attitude.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:28 AM
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Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 10:29 AM by KingFlorez
Democrats have done very well here the past couple of cycles
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:50 AM
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Colorado is purple now, trending blue.
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:08 AM
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did you forget about that? Of course that didn't hold up for reelection in 96 and Hillary would definately not win Colorado. Obama on the other hand, has very good chance.
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:34 AM
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39. It has not always been red. |
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It went for Clinton in '92, and it has been drifting in a Democratic direction over the last several years, so that we now have a (quasi) Democratic senator, a Democratic governor, and Democratic House and Senate. We are also the home of past Democratic greats like Gary Hart and Pat Schroeder.
With the right candidate, we can definitely go blue in '08, but Hillary is not that candidate.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:59 AM
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:07 AM
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9. KICK! This is exactly why Repukes WANT TO RUN AGAINST CLINTON. Wake up, people! n/t |
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:07 AM
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:12 AM
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12. I agree that Obama would be more competitive than Hillary in CO, but turning it blue? |
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It is not going to happen. CO is a state that has gone Dem just once (1992) in the last 44 years. Only an independent-style against-the-grain Democrat, (or DINO, if you prefer) has any shot to win it this year. Hillary will get beaten soundly there, and Obama will lose it by at least 5 points.
As for Ohio, Nevada and New Mexico, states we need to turn blue as well, Obama will do significantly worse than in Colorado.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:21 AM
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Read RockymountainDems post above.
We've been trending bluer and bluer every cycle.
A big reason...I believe...everybody wants to live here. We are getting tons of big city transplants that are bringing more liberal views into the state. California...New York. We have great weather...vast blue skies...tons of son...the Rockies...and quality of life is high here.
It's not like it's so far fetched that we are getting bluer and bluer because of all the transplants. In fact...as a fifth generation Coloradoan...this is what I'm telling you is happening.
Take it or leave it.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:28 AM
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22. Obama is close to turning *Texas* blue |
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At least in the "pre-Wright" polling. Polls vary, but I know several Texas Republicans who have pledged to vote for Obama in the GE.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:20 AM
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15. Small state. Doesn't matter. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:29 AM
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Well fuck you...
we have Casa Bonita!
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:15 AM
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33. I can't believe we still have Casa Bonita |
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I went once when I was 12. Never again.
Since then I've heard stories from people who worked the "kitchen" there. They're not pleasant at all.
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:20 AM
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who cares.
Me and my pals still go once a year...get rip roaring drunk and have a blast.
I took my wife there on our 2nd or 3rd date. She thought I was crazy. But by the end of the night she was laughing so much she thought it was a brilliant idea.
Tim Burton and P.T. Barnum couldn't have designed a better restaurant.
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:24 AM
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36. I'm not saying it's not a fun place for a kid, or a kid-at-heart.. |
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just that the food is really, really bad. Think powdered refried beans.
When I went there the early video game era was just kicking off, it was a paradise for a nerdy 12 year old.
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:23 AM
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35. Wrong, he is turning blue states red - read the report you site |
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here it is, think GE
Colorado shows McCain tied with Barack Obama at 46% while enjoying a 52% to 38% advantage over Hillary Clinton. Compared to polling from a month ago, McCain has gained ground on Obama
McCain is viewed favorably by 61% of Colorado voters, up from 55% a month ago. Just 36% have an unfavorable opinion of the presumptive Republican nominee. Fifty-five percent (55%) of Colorado voters currently have a favorable opinion of Obama, down from 60% a month ago. The number with an unfavorable view of Obama has increased to 44% from 36%.
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:32 AM
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38. limbaugh and the right wing love hillary |
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will we vote for limbaugh and nominate hillary?
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