It's still a question of Wright and wrong -- Boston Globe

[ccpup]

an excerpt which makes a really good point:

When Don Imus uttered his infamous slur on the radio last year, Obama cut him no slack. Imus should be fired, he said. "There's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group."

When it came to Wright, however, he wasn't nearly so categorical. Oh, he's "like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," Obama indulgently explained to one interviewer. He's just "trying to be provocative," he told another." Far from severing his ties to Wright, Obama made him a member of his Religious Leadership Committee -- a tie he finally cut only four days ago."

Such a clanging double standard raises doubts about Obama's character and judgment, and about his fitness for the role of race-transcending healer. Yesterday's speech was finely crafted, but it leaves some troubling questions unanswered.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/03/19/its_still_a_question_of_wright_and_wrong/

My question is was Pastor Wright ON his staff when he demanded Imus' firing?

[Bullet1987]

1. Please...give it up. You're fighting with a losing argument.

[bicentennial_baby]

2. Ha! I knew it would be Jacoby piece before I clicked!

The Globe's RW hack supreme... :rofl:

[Hissyspit]

3. What Imus said and what Wright said were not equivalent. Nor were their forums.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

8. Thank you.

People are reeeeeeally stretching to make a comparison there.

[EFerrari]

20. Exactly. Fuck Imus. And also the rw Globe. n/t

[bicentennial_baby]

21. The Globe Op-Ed page is generally OK, with the exception

of Jacoby and Cathy Young, who no longer writes for them, iirc. James Carrol is fantastic, actually. :)

[EFerrari]

23. Editorial pages are complicated, aren't they?

The columnists sort themselves out but then there's the Editor's space, too.

The Editor at our fish wrap is liberal on national issues and conservative on local ones -- unless it impacts our local industry which is defense and tech. :crazy:

[redqueen]

22. Logic... it's strangely unpopular these days. (nt)

[ellacott]

4. This was posted yesterday

[Qutzupalotl]

5. Did Wright call anybody a honky? How about a cracker?

That would make these incidents comparable.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

6. Because the Rutgers female basketball team a bunch of whores has no truth to it, maybe?

Whereas, there was a lot of truth to what Wright said.

[azmouse]

7. By trying to keep this as a divisive issue

you are just playing into the RWs hands. Give it up already.

[cali]

9. I hate this stuff. I don't see Wright as anymore

anti-American than William Sloan Coffin. I don't see him as a racist. He's said some things I find offensive, but this has been blown up out of all proportion. Yes, I know that Obama repudiated some of what Wright has said. That doesn't mean I have too.

[Armstead]

10. Jeff Jacoby is a conservative columnist

[Hand]

12. As well as a thoroughgoing asshat. nt

[bicentennial_baby]

15. And that's putting it mildly....

Sniffa is always disappointed when Jacoby takes a day off, since he misses out on his 2x a week outrage. :P

[Tesha]

25. Conservatives are all the Clintons (and Clintonistas) have left to hang onto. (NT)

[Tarc]

11. Ahh, look at all the Obamaniacs desperately trying to sweep this unbder the rug

Charming bunch, ain't they?

Not sure about your specific question, though. Wright has long been a close adviser to Obama, and he did have an official position (head of the candidate's African American Religious Leadership Committee). He resigned that position only recently, but I am not sure when he first took the position.

[ccpup]

14. I offered an article I found interesting

and asked a simple question. I guess, despite the fevered proclamations to the contrary, that Wright still IS a very, very sensitive issue.

As for the question, I wasn't sure when Wright had an official position with the Obama Campaign. If it was during the unfortunate Imus Episode, then Barack looks like a hypocrite. If the episode pre-dated Wright's position with the campaign, well, then he STILL looks like a hypocrite, I guess.

Or, as my niece put it the other day, "maybe he was taking a nap in the pew when that guy was talking?"

:evilgrin:

[John Q. Citizen]

16. Maybe your niece was correct. More power to him. Have you been to the church in question?

Perhaps you should take your niece and check it out. Before you get too set in your position. It's just a church. Sure it's one of the biggest black churches in Chicago. But they don't bite.

Don't be afraid. You could go see it and help teach your niece to think for herself.

[ccpup]

27. nope, haven't been as I don't live in Chicago

but my niece has an African-American father and is proud of her mixed heritage, so your condescending attitude about teaching her to "think for yourself" or for me to "not be afraid" to go Obama's church says, unfortunately, more about your potential racial attitudes than mine.

[John Q. Citizen]

29. I'm just saying, go the the facts for yourself, whatever your heritage. This church you are casting

asperations on has people attending who are probably a lot like you. And me.

I mean, I'm an agnostic, but still.

i want to go to one of Hill's prayer meetings, but i bet they wouldn't let me in.

[rox63]

13. Jeff Jacoby has always been a RW hack

He has an agenda, and it has NOTHING to do with Dems winning elections in November.

[VolcanoJen]

17. That's a really good piece.

Here are some of Jeff Jacoby's other really good pieces about Democrats and progressive politics:

Hate Speech of the Left

Slaughter, Jubiliation and the 'Peace Process'

Al Sharpton - The Democrats' David Duke

My personal favorite:

The Chicken Hawk Smear :rofl:

Seriously now, you're not really quoting Jeff Jacoby as some kind of reasoned, thoughtful, honest broker, are you? This is the same Jeff Jacoby who was suspended by his paper for four months when he was caught plagiarizing from (of all things!!) a piece of Freeper-type viral email.

If you Obama slammers want to make some points, make them in your own words, because we're going to point out every time you cut-and-paste from pieces of shit like Jacoby. His words might fit your current meme, but they do not fit progressive and liberal points of view, nor have they ever, nor could they ever.

[Unsane]

18. When did Wright call whites an ethnic slur?

[VolcanoJen]

19. And, because moral equations really do need to be "equal"

When did Rev. Wright slam a group of talented young, white, female student-atheletes who were being lauded for their prowess following a staggering victory?

And what white slur did he use against them?

[Tesha]

24. That's not "The Globe" speaking -- that's fucking Jeff fucking Jacoby; their resident wingnut.

Nice attempt at misrepresentation.

Tesha

[NorthernSpy]

26. Jeff Jacoby is the author. This attack fits the pattern.

The attacks come from neocons and long-time Israel lobby apologists. It's just a fact, and at this point, it's hard to deny -- being pretty much in the open.


The question is why they want him taken down so badly.

[RoadRage]

28. Wow.. apples to oranges?

Imus came out of nowhere and targeted a very specific group of girls who played on a basketball team. And, he did so for no reason at all - on a radio show that is broadcast to millions.

Wright was literally preaching to his own small congregation - not in a public forum. And, he didn't specifically target any small particular group.

Again. Apples to Oranges.. but nice try!