Is It Any Wonder McCain is Now Beating Both Clinton and Obama?

[berni_mccoy]

In reference to the new Poll discussed here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5156725

Clinton has been playing dirty politics since her campaign catastrophically failed in Iowa and later enhanced her attack machine after her spectacular defeats following Super Tuesday.

She started playing the race card, calling Obama wins out as racial sympathy of the party.

She started promoting McCain as a better candidate for the 3 am call!

What do Clinton supporters expect? This is what they get for supporting someone who completely failed to manage her campaign.

When it was clear she wasn't going to win without some form of miracle, she set up a website to subvert the will of the voters in an attempt to convince elected delegates that they do not need to follow the voters will. They began a campaign to convince Democrats in Michigan and Florida that the DNC does not care about their vote when she knows full well that the blame lies with the state party reps, both strongholds for the DLC, an organization that has consistently subverted the party on critical goals and missions.

And when they came out most recently playing the fear and race cards, what did people expect would happen? The raising of the specter of racial fears in this country was going to have an affect. Enough so that the media started listening to extreme right racists who have been harping about less than 60 seconds of snippets of incendiary comments from an African American preacher. Playing it over and over and over again on the MSM until everyone was sick and tired enough of hearing it that they are done with *any* of the remaining Democratic candidates.

Obama has done what he can to heal the damage being done by Clinton, but her supporters continue to fuel the fire. They attack Obama for his honesty and openeness and his grace in being able to address America on a real issue, treating all sides with respect and dignity, and having an adult conversation with the citizens of this country.

Clinton's supporters continue to spout lies and baseless attacks which have nothing to do with turning our country around. If Clinton can't have the nomination, then DAMN THE PARTY and let it burn. And to hell with the people and their fears in this country. It's no longer about Clinton winning. They know she can't. But they could care less if racial tensions in this country are brought to the brink, as long as Obama can't win.

The blame for this downturn rests completely on her campaign and her blind supporters.

On Edit: Hell yes, I'm angry!

[kevinmc]

1. Long way to go .....

everything that is coming out now against Obama and that will come out in the next few days against Clinton is best for them. The GOP would be putting this stuff out in Oct anyway.

McCain's rough time is coming. There is enough dirt by the Rightwing alone to damage him.

[berni_mccoy]

5. Good point. But it's still a damn shame. We could be miles ahead of where we are today

If it weren't for her destructive tactics.

[Hieronymus]

2. No surprise at all. At this rate we will have at least four more years of...

Bush's policies, as embraced by McCain.

[melody]

3. Bingo -- and there's absolutely no way for her to personally win

She's only benefiting McCain at this point.

[berni_mccoy]

7. She's doing more than just benefiting McCain...she's destroying the party with her tactics

[melody]

11. She's definitely destroying the party -- I don't think that's her primary objective, though

She wants enough of it around to let the DLC take over. Then they can just blend into the GOP and we can
do away with all that pesky more-than-one-party stuff and Karl will STILL have his permanent majority.

I hope the money she got was worth her soul.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

4. The blame for this downturn rests completely on her campaign and her blind supporters.

:thumbsup:

[Stephanie]

6. You are 100% right.

SHAME ON YOU HILLARY CLINTON. AFTER YOU LOSE THIS NOMINATION I WILL WORK MY ASS OFF - AGAIN - TO GET YOU OUT OF THE SENATE.

[backscatter712]

8. Hillary's 2012 strategy at work.

She can't win in 2008, so she wants to try again in 2012.

Thus she's poisoning the well now so Obama can't get elected.

[StevieM]

9. The downturn is a result of Obama's campaign of personal destruction. (eom)

[wileedog]

15. Whose kitchen sink was it, dimwit? mt

[Rageneau]

10. McCain will win because both Hillary and Obama's campaigns have been accused of racism.

McCain will win because Democrats are hating each other into oblivion. That division began with the first cries of racism in the Democratic campaign. Those cries -- all of them -- came from the Obama side. To win, Obama's team had to falsely ACCUSE the Clintons of racism in order to inject the racism theme into the campaign. Make no mistake, it was the Obama side that did that -- by deliberately misinterpreted HRC's comments about MLK needing LBJ to pass civil rights legislation, and Bill claiming Obama's war-opposition was a 'fairy tale.'

Axelrod and Obaama's surrogates in the MSM turned those comments about 'fairy tales' and LBJ into: "God Damn Black America!" And Obamaniacs then went kneejerk ballistic with screams of racism. Later, when Obama's own pastor agains brought racism into the contest, Obama's supporters either claim that such obviously raciust remarks were NOT racist (ah, but 'fairy tales" is?) or kneejerk blame the Clintons for racism -- even though they had NOTHING to do with any of this.

False charges of racism from the Obama campaign right before the Iowa caucuses changed this campaign from a positive into a negative one. It turned positive democrats into negative ones. It took friends and turned them into enemies.

The result is that there are now two camps in the Democratic Party who hate one another and who will not support the other's candidate. As for me, I have no intentiuon of voting for the same kind of wingnut tactics that hounded the Clintons for 12 years -- and I see EXACT trhose tactics, exactly the same kind of that wingnuttery, in exactly the same long-ago wingnut words, every day from the Obaama side.

There is a new feeling in the Democratic Party now. It goes: "I don't care if Hillary/Obama loses to McCain, just so long as Hillary/Obama does not win the general election."

[eridani]

12. Endorsements from opponents are extra special, and carry far more weight

--than those from your own party. Anybody who deals with industrial salespeople knows this. Unlike the used car breed, these people have to know their technical stuff and can never afford to bullshit potential customers. If the sales rep says that the company B's product is more suitable for my needs than the product of his or her own Company A, that means more than the same assertion by the Company A sales rep.

[Bonobo]

13. I'm not surprised. Hillary and her staff have been excellent attack dogs for McCain.

And using his very own script too!

[peruviancharm]

14. It's naive to say that McCain is now up because of the 3 AM ad

Note that McCain was ahead even after the 3 AM ad. Little changed after that ad. It was after the Wright videos were released that his lead exploded upwards.

I don't see any substance to the claims that Clinton somehow boosted McCain. But then, blaming the Clintons for everything is a fun game that has been played for years.

[Johnny__Motown]

16. Not at all (link provided)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brent-budowsky/hillarys-plan-to-elect-m_b_92142.html

[annie1]

17. they often both were losing to mccain in polls before now. stop with the mob mentality already.

[BenDavid]

18. not really..obama caused this himself. the race baiter got caught

and I am not talking about hrc. it is obama that played the race card first and last and now this crap with the bigot and the racist preacher should stop anyone from supporting obama for president. You obama folk have been lied too...lied too! DAMN right you have been and still you going to support this fallacy. DAMN!

[BlooInBloo]

19. Other than the fact that you're just making shit up, it's a wonderful observation....

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/cbsnyt_poll_obama_still_slight.php