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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:30 PM
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Hillary Was in White House on 'Stained Blue Dress' Day - "Private meetings" around pardon time
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 02:32 PM by jefferson_dem
Turnabout Time. :hide:

Hillary Was in White House on 'Stained Blue Dress' Day

Schedules Reviewed by ABC Show Hillary May Have Been in the White House When the Fateful Act Was Committed
By BRIAN ROSS and the ABC NEWS INVESTIGATIVE UNIT
March 19, 2008—



Hillary Clinton spent the night in the White House on the day her husband had oral sex with Monica Lewinsky, and may have actually been there when it happened, according to records of her schedule released today by the National Archives.

An initial review by ABC News of the 17,481 pages of Sen. Hillary Clinton's schedule as first lady, released today by the National Archives, also finds significant gaps in time and many days containing only "private meetings" at the White House with unnamed individuals.

The public schedule for Sen. Clinton on Feb. 28, 1997, the day on which Lewinsky's infamous blue dress would become stained by the president, shows the first lady spent the morning and the night in the White House.

The Feb. 28 schedule lists her as attending four "drop-by" events, closed to the press, between 11 a.m. and 12:30 p.m. and then records her as staying in the White House overnight that fateful day.

The schedule lists three different events occurring that evening at Washington theaters and the Kennedy Center but does not indicate if she attended.

According to the Starr report, President Clinton took Lewinsky into an Oval Office bathroom in the early evening, after recording a radio address. Forensic tests later "conclusively" showed that the blue dress she was wearing "was stained with the President's semen," according to the Starr report.

In December 2000, when both of Hillary Clinton's brothers were involved in trying to broker pardon arrangements for associates, several days of documents show only a long list of "private meetings" at the White House.

Between Dec. 1 and 22, Clinton had a total of 25 "private meetings" before the day on which a first round of pardons was announced by her husband.

The records do show Sen. Clinton twice meeting with Denise Rich at charity events in October and November 2000, at a time when Rich was seeking a pardon for her billionaire ex-husband, Marc Rich, who had fled the U.S. on tax charges. Clinton pardoned Rich in the last hours of his administration in January 2001.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4482242&page=1
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:31 PM
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1. so what?
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:38 PM
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8. Right, who cares for honesty in the WH. More lies is always good.
So what?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:15 PM
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63. I don't care for her, but going after this kind of piddly shit stuff is just petty.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:38 PM
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9. Guess the other candidates nutso supporters will blame her for that also.
They have blamed her for everything that has happened in this country since 1776.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:31 PM
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2. That was not redacted. I really wonder what was.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:33 PM
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3. I've heard perhaps something having to do with her failed
healthcare plan, but that was speculation from a talking head.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:04 PM
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57. She met in the WH with the Hasidic Jews who BOUGHT PARDONS FROM BILL & then voted for her
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:33 PM
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4. She also murdered Vince Foster
and got thousands of Arkansas children hooked on cocaine.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:37 PM
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7. Would those charges be any worse than the sick bullshit levied against Obama by some here?
:shrug:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:42 PM
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16. I've come full circle
I (Clark supporter, still am) promised myself to stay out of GD-P. Then I took a peak or two and got intensely pissed off and responded in kind to some posts. Now I'm just being amused. From my entirely unscientific, irrelevant poll, Obama supporters are increidly much more vicious and cult like if you will. We have the makings of some incredible make up sex, I just hope it happens.

I'm voting BIG (D) all the way in November regardless of nominees.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:21 PM
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38. "We have the makings of some incredible make up sex"
:spray:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:05 PM
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59. Um, no. But the Clintons presided over the use of Arkansas as a CIA channel for drugs/weapons
and then covered for the criminals involved.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:34 PM
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5. ugh. just a reminder of the undignified Clinton circus
who the hell would want that crap back in the White House.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:40 PM
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12. Cali who in the hell wants someone who has friends, great uncles
a hateful Grandmother in the White House. Think of the Family Functions that would hit the news. What a circus
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:45 PM
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19. that doesn't even make any sense
pathetic. As always.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:55 PM
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27. why not, can't you see the press all over the Obama
family functions at the White House, with the Rev. Wright,who is such a close friend, adviser, Minister and like an Uncle to him attending.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:08 PM
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61. Yeah....
...Hillary and a cigar cutter in the WH are soooooooooo much better!

:rofl:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:35 PM
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6. Who cares?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:39 PM
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10. Wankers
NT
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:41 PM
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15. LOL!
You might want to reconsider that specific insult given the subject matter at hand.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wankers
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:43 PM
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17. Self-delete
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 02:44 PM by LostinVA
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:40 PM
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11. rich=fair game, lewinsky=crap IMHO
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:03 PM
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31. I agree the Lewinsky part is silly for the news to bring up...

in regards to Hillary's whereabouts. BUT, all the "private meetings" leading up
to all the pardons should be clarified.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:40 PM
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13. OMFG that evil women what the fuck was she doing in the house where she lived?!?
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 02:41 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:19 PM
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37. !
:rofl:

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:22 PM
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39. LOL
Some people's kids. :)
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:41 PM
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14. How can Hillary be trusted to run America when she can't even keep track of her own husband?
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 02:47 PM by Cali_Democrat
Not to mention weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. She never read the NIE and she doesn't care. She's not fit to be President.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:50 PM
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23. "Keep track of her own husband"?
You are a sexist piece of dogshit, and any candidate whom you support suffers by association.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:11 PM
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34. How is that sexist? nt
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:14 PM
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35. The poster is right -- it IS sexist
I don't throw that term around on here, but I call it when I see it, and that is sexist.

UGH.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:51 PM
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25. Can't That Be Turned Around?
How can Franklin Roosevelt, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Dwight Eisenhower,etcetera be trusted to run the country when their own spouse can't even trust them?

Last perfect person I am aware of was nailed to a cross...
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:55 PM
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26. Those former Presidential spouses aren't running for President
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 02:56 PM by Cali_Democrat
As President you must be aware at all times and she wasn't. She also wasn't aware when Bush lied about WMD, she never read the NIE. She's not fit to be our commander in chief.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:23 PM
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40. How Were They Aware All The Time?
What if the Russians invaded Finland while John Kennedy was putting the wood to Fiddle and Faddle?

What if?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:32 PM
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45. Fuck off!!! At least she didn't associate herself for 20 years with a racist pastor
and lied about having heard any of his inflammatory sermons until he finally confessed to having heard them during his speech.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:50 PM
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53. touche'!
spot on!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:03 PM
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56. No, her associations with shady characters were more profitable than spiritual.
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 06:03 PM by Liberal Veteran
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #14
60. your kidding, right?
your post is really uncalled for. and yeah, Im an Obamahead.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:44 PM
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18. Big fucking deal. nt
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:46 PM
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20. She appears to have blown this one
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:46 PM
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21. THE OP IS OBSESSED WITH BILL CLINTON'S PENIS!!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:48 PM
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22. Nah. Bill Clinton is obsessed with Bill Clinton's penis!!
n/t
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:51 PM
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24. Wow, this looks bad....
The rethug 527s must be chomping at the bit on this info.

It's sad to say, but if Hillary's on the Democratic ticket this stuff is just going to kill us in the general election.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:58 PM
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28. The records should show she had no security clearances
That's probably why Bill got his knob polished by Monica knowing she was there. She couldn't probably go to where he was...or else he really is more of an asshole than I ever imagined.

The Rich meetings are quite interesting too as well as her brothers.

We want more of this shit?


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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:34 PM
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46. Why don't you take your dog and go piss on some other tree?
I would worry more about Obama and his racist pastor if I were you......
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:01 PM
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29. Y'all are missing the point. Judicial Watch got these records and the MSM is dissecting them
All 11,000+ pages of them. And all with the sole purpose of finding anything to call Hillary's credibility into question from now until the election.

And all we can do is sit back and watch, or post our own form of candidate support (Obama sucks, Hillary blows!) on this board, while the 4th estate, along with the ever lovely Judicial Watch (remember their role in impeaching Clinton?) pours over every page in its quest.

And don't think this is all... there are 7 years of tax returns coming out before our convention.

Better to spend OUR time responding to the MSM and defending against the above innuendo and the slime sure to come, then to engage in this pissing contest on DU.

Just sayin'.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:01 PM
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30. Come on J.D. Is this really necessary? The Rich stuff, maybe..
.. but the blue dress crap is beneath you. IMHO.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:05 PM
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33. ...
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 03:06 PM by jefferson_dem
I plead guilty as charged. Couldn't resist... :dilemma:

Of course, I could pony up the classic Obama-basher excuse that - "she will have to face these questions from the repukes eventually..."
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:05 PM
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32. 8 years of Clinton are presently being perused in greater detail
I expect there will be a lot of stuff regurgitated for the rest of the week. I don't think Obama supporters need to help spread it. I'm sure the endless news accounts will remind voters of the betrayal we all felt at that time. It's time to move on to something new & refreshing.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:20 PM
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43. opps sorry ...wrong place for my intended reply....deleted
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:22 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:16 PM
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36. The White House is a big place. Who cares?
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:31 PM
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41. but I thought she was saving the world
and brokering Middle East peace, feeding children. Instead of weaseling favors for her freeloading brothers and pardoning criminals like Marc Rich. Gee, ya mean all that stuff about her saving the world, is not true?:sarcasm: A day in the life of "True leadership": People were being butchered in Rwanda, and Bill is getting a sloppy BJ and Hillary is greasing palms for her slimey brothers.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:09 PM
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42. And this is somehow a negative for HRC?
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:21 PM
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44. This is just the beginning of the vetting.
This is the type of crap that the Clinton campaign better be prepared for. If supporters think that their candidate is going to somehow be immune from the tabloid news media, then they are very naive. Their candidate's husband has a laundry list of such ilk that she will be associated with because you know, there must be guilt by association in this "What's good for the goose is good for the gander" world. :eyes: There is a whole generation of new voters who were in kindergarten and elementary school when this was going on and the power and the fury of the wingnut radiosphere will have a grand time introducing a new generation of young adults to Monica and Paula and Gennifer and....
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #44
49. That's fine, be WE can choose to rise above it as dems.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #49
64. Sadly, the problem is that the repukes will not rise above it and it will come up. n/t
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:38 PM
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47. This is completely irrelevant.
This doesn't belong in the political discourse, and I'm saying this as an Obama supporter.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:38 PM
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48. Oh Who Gives A Rat's Fat Ass. Some Of Y'all Need To Grow The Fuck Up.
Such crap.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:42 PM
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50. "may have been there when it happened" I'm getting a little turned on
but seriously, unless Hillary has at some point indicated she WASN'T there, this whole thing is irrelevant and irresponsible reporting.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:44 PM
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51. I vote for post # 16 above.

That gives something to look forward to, while someone else's 1997 sexcapade just doesn't meet my needs. :blush:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:46 PM
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52. I don't want to know.
I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. Gross.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:52 PM
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54. Bill sure had respect
for his wife. :-( The more I hear about Bill the less I can stomach him. :puke: I don't support Hillary for president but I feel for her and what she has had to put up with that dirty dog of a husband. x(
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:53 PM
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55. btw...
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:54 PM by indimuse
have you heard of a guy named Sinclair..? Some guy from Minnesota? You know... Obama and Sinclair..?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:05 PM
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58. Great public documents that only list that ...
"private meetings" took place. That makes me feel informed. :sarcasm:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:17 PM
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62. Ugh. If I never hear about that goddamn dress again, it will be too soon
Who the everloving FUCK cares? Let's talk about shit that matters, please.
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