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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:49 PM
Original message
Breaking: Obama will win the nom, and lose the GE...and Obamabots
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 02:51 PM by xultar
will blame...

Clinton

Just occurred to me.

I usually don't use nickames for candidate supporters, but when I saw a post providing the new nickname Hasshat for Clinton supporters...I decided to change my stance.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:50 PM
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1. Ignore just occured to me.
Adios.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #1
25. Ignore opposing views and preach unity - brilliant strategy
Please!! Put me on ignore. I'd be honored.

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #25
40. ignoring moronic OPs...wise...
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. I guess I'm slow
but I see no value in "putting someone on ignore" unless they are a threat to a person and then other action should be taken.

There is a Dionysus Mardi Gras Parade in the New Orleans area.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #44
55. that is true for me as well, i don't have anyone on ignore
but if it makes it easier for...

well actually i'll have to agree with you on this.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #25
54. Xultar's cool, but that's no call for unity.
It's an admittance that she's decided to be no better. :shrug:
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #25
56. ignore trolls... it's fun!
For example, I ignore Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, you know, all the guys rooting for the Clintons lately?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #56
62. If something doesn't happen
how can it be fun? And if you are ignoring them how do you know who or what they are rooting for?
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #25
63. So will I!
Pretty soon this site will just have the Obama people responding to each other. They can then stroke each other while sipping that special potion, and break into singing: "kumbaya"!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:30 PM
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66. You're ignoring xultar?
Your loss. Put me on ignore, too, as I'm nowhere near as classy as xultar.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #66
80. *kissy kissy* thank you so much.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #80
134. You're one of my favs.
:hi:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:36 PM
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71. ....and to me!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:45 PM
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98. If you're ignoring xultar, ignore me too.
But you probably already have. I'm in good company.

Bake
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #1
143. Why would you do that?
It's only an opinion civilly expressed.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:08 AM
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161. I'm honored to share company with Xultar. Please IGNORE ME TOO!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:22 AM
Response to Reply #1
163. I with all of my friends. Ignore me too!
:hi:
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:50 PM
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2. If the shoe fits...
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:50 PM
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3. No. Superdelegates will see the light and vote for Hillary
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Uh uh...Lots of superdelegates have big problems with the Clintons...
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:18 PM
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61. They are afraid to overturn the will of the people
I think there is a very healthy wariness in the superdelegates regarding the mood of the Dem rank-and-filers. I don't think they will overturn the will of the people.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:26 PM
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64. And, will the "will of the people" be
the candidate with the most popular votes? Gee, that sounds very democratic to me. Of course, we must include Florida and have a re-vote in Michigan.
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #3
20. So Huckabee was right when he said on SNL....
"Don't forget the Superdelegates".

Looks like the Super"d"s may still help the Repubs....

by pissing off the majority of the Democratic Party.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:16 PM
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57. Superdelegates aren't going to ride in and save Hillary's behind. That's wishful thinking.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:04 AM
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168. Ahh -- so SHE can lose the General Election instead, and split the party in doing so. (NT)
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:51 PM
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4. Relax.... he'll win both...
...
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:03 PM
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37. I'm not feeling it. I don't think Hillary can win either to be honest. But,
even if she dropped out the day after the first super tuesday, Obama supporters would still blame her.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #4
43. Not if things keep going the way they are.
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:51 PM
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5. She knows she can't win.
And all she's doing by staying in now and taking potshots at Obama is boosting mccain, so he can win and she can run in 2012.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:58 PM
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29. Where did you conjur up that nonsense from?--your brain? a crystal ball? sillyness
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:03 PM
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35. It's becoming increasingly unlikely every day that she will win in pledged delegates.
Supers are going to Obama 10-1 in the past month and a half. He has a ~700,000 vote popular vote lead. He leads state contests. By all metrics, she cannot win the nomination. So why does she stay?

Her lust for power is apparently more important to her than the future of our nation and party.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #35
51. I guess Obama's desire for secrecy
regarding those tapes out weighed his lust for power. Isn't it just a damned shame he didn't take care of this problem a year ago. Now I just wonder why he didn't do that. I wonder how much he was considering the future of our nation and party.
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #51
127. I can't believe you said that!
considering Hillary's secrecy regarding her tax returns, donor lists, etc.
:rofl:
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #127
166. no comparison....
none whatsoever!
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:57 AM
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170. It's a perfect comparison
I guess Hillary's desire for secrecy regarding her taxes & donor lists out weighed her lust for power. Isn't it just a damned shame she didn't release them already. Now I just wonder why she didn't do that. I wonder how much she was considering the future of our nation and party.

She first said she wouldn't release them until she got the nomination, which would totally screw the party if there's something damning in them. Now she says April 15. We shall see!
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #35
52. What was her total vote count in Florida?
Oh, yes, I know, we just can't have those Floridians' votes counted. Let me see, they have no votes and no delegates. Gosh they are going to be so happy with Obama.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #35
86. But
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:14 AM
Response to Reply #86
162. DAMN YOU RODEO............... DAMN. .. . .. . . . .YOU!
Aaaaaahhhhaahhahahhahaaaaaaaaaa! Kurl Roover? Uhg.


When this is over, you owe me a backrub.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 AM
Response to Reply #86
165. Is he being healed?
Or knighted?
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
58. I think you're underestimating the upcoming primary states. If she takes
PA with a healthy lead (which currently she has) and various other states she's in the race w/out an albatross around her neck.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:52 PM
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7. Not true!
They'll also blame The Gays!
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. And the Boomers! Don't forget the selfish Boomers!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #9
23. Yes, let's not forget those useless old people lingering among us.
hogging our air.

It's their fault, too.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #9
70. Not just selfish..
Scared, delusional and demented too.

:silly:
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #70
145. And we're...uh...I mean...they're responsible for all that is bad in the
world! They're all drug-addled, lefty trouble makers who can't think straight and need to be put in "homes"

I resemble those remarks! :silly:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #7
95. Yeah, those Gays. Ruin the fucking planet and shit. ROFL.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #95
121. But we make it look purdy while we do it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:52 PM
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8. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:53 PM
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10. Ignore:Engage
The use of the word "Obamabots" is the reason, if you're curious.

Bye Bye
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usrbs Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #10
45. Do you ignore those who use the charming term "Hillbots" too?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #45
109. They put people on Ignore that have opinons contrary to their own.
I find that funny in a unifying sort of way.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:54 PM
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11. Clinton's going to lose the nomination.
And Clinton supporters are going to blame everybody except their own shitty candidate.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #11
19. But everything is "different" if it's Clinton or her supporters doing it.
It doesn't count... or it's different... or... some other rationalization.

:crazy:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #11
97. ahh see calling a democratic candidate shitty is against the rules.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:54 PM
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12. Yep, they will, baselessly.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:54 PM
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13. Time will tell
but if it weren't up to the bogus machines, polls, imbalanced punditry, and this sort of crap,

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_accidentally_leaks?utm_source=embedded_video

I wouldn't bank on it at all.

:hi:
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:54 PM
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14. No one is hated more than Hillary Clinton by the repugs...so if we
lose it will be because you didn't vote...
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #14
106. Who cares who the Repugs hate. Don't we like who they hate? Or used to anyway.
Supposedly they love Obama. That's what I hear DUers saying anyway...

How Republicans for Obama gear is always sold out and shit.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:54 PM
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15. Well it's easier to lay blame and hate on someone then to accept that scenario.
So are you a Senator Clinton supporter or something? :silly:

Just ignore the name calling, it's frustration at the long process. :hi:
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #15
126. Actually she's not
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:20 PM by Chovexani
She just calls bullshit when she sees it, something that seems to be a lost art around here lately.

I've known xultar a long time and she's an asset to DU, IMO.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #126
135. Yes I know her from another board though she may not know this is me
I was playing with her but maybe that wasn't apparent. :shrug:
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:55 PM
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16. The fact that you thought this is breaking news? -nt
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #16
111. You're new. People do this shit all the time. Lighten up Francis.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:55 PM
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17. I'm with you on nicknames for candidate supporters
I had to use it for one specific Clinton supporter.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #17
22. I hate the nicknames.
I won't be changing my stance on that.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #17
108. Did you see the HassHat post from yesterday. I was really pissed about that one.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #108
114. I missed it, if you still have access to it I'd like to see it.
I'm an Obama supporter, but flame wars don't do much for me anymore. I admit that I did get sucked into them in January. But there's only so much negativity I can take and still be interested in engaging. Which I guess is the conundrum for voters while watching the verbal fisticuffs that the candidates are getting into.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #114
116. It got deleted but while most thought it was funny a few were really adult and...
really said enough is enough.

I thought that was pretty cool.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #116
117. Most people on DU are pretty smart, they don't deserve to be lumped with a goofy nickname
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:10 PM by Cant trust em
but there are a few who will turn into apologists for every one of their candidate's misdeeds. Those are the candidate-bots. I'd like to think that I'm above the fray, but I'm probably not. I just try to be honest.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #117
118. I try to be honest, and a bit silly.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #118
120. Not surprised, based on your avatar.
Nice talking to you, Xultar. We might bump heads every now and then, but I promise to not call you names.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:55 PM
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18. If you are right, if he loses the GE, I will always blame Hillary.
Hillary should have dropped out after she lost 12 races in a row, and especially after she won 2 1/2 races out of 17.

There is no reason for her to continue this quest, except for her own selfishness. The longer she is in the race, the more harm she does to Obama. And, the more harm she does to us.

If Obama loses, I will always blame Hillary, and I'll do everything I can (no much, I know) to defeat her in 2012, 2016, 2020...every four years when she decides it's her 'turn'.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #18
30. have you even considered the right of those who haven't voted yet?
Gee. Millions of people have yet to vote. Get over yourself and your highfaluting desires.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #30
47. I haven't voted yet and I think Hill should bail. My rights aren't hurt by that opinion.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #30
68. Thank you, grasswire. I'm in Oregon and I would love to be able to vote.
I have even switched from being a lifelong Independent to Democrat so I can vote for Hillary. Just mailed in my new registration card today. :D

For any other Oregonians wanting to switch, deadline is April 29.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:52 PM
Response to Reply #30
153. I'd agree with you ...
... right up until one Democratic candidate begins promoting the Republican nominee, and we're weeks past that point. That's Hill's one unforgivable action, in my opinion (off the top of my head); the rest are just varying degrees of very ugly, very dirty politics and typical dishonesty.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #18
88. See. That is all my post was about. People in this thread are calling it a HATE OBAMA thread..
I'm just sayin, and y'all know it is fucking true...

If Obama loses the GE...Hillary will be blamed.

SIMPLE.

That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying she could win it...cuz I know she can't. I'm saying Obama will lose and his supporters will blame Hillary.


OMG you read my post thanks.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #18
90. ****READ THE POST I'M REPLYING TO HERE.****
The poster is honest, and knows all I said is Hillary will be blamed for Obama losing the GE. And they agree.

Simple.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #90
154. What's so remarkable? Hillary will be blamed because she will be partly responsible ...
... just like Nader is partly responsible for Gore's loss in 2000 (along with all the other contributing causes).

Whatever other Clinton-standard dirty politics was executed during the campaign, the one truly damaging and unforgivable action was the promotion of the Republican nominee over the Democratic frontrunner. For which Hillary Clinton will be rightly viewed as having diminished Democratic chances in November.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #18
128. Holy fuck!
You forget this :sarcasm:
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:26 AM
Response to Reply #18
159. If Obama gets the
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 12:28 AM by CatnHat
nomination, and looses in the GE, Obama has no one else to blame but himself; and that also goes for his supporters.

Like it or not, Obama is unelectable in the GE.

Those "tapes" of Wright will surface again and again in the GE election; and God knows what else they dig up from Obama's past. That's the truth of the matter. The democrats are in a big mess.

If Obama was straight up with everyone in the beginning, none of this would have happened, his ego and his arrogance got the party into this. Instead of stroking the candidate, why didn't Obama supporter's demand to know "everything" about the man. This guy should have been "vetted" early on by the press, by the media, and by his own supporters. The Obama problems are NOT Hillary Clinton's problems.

Why are Obama supporters so eager to blame Clinton? This is definitely reminiscent of GWB supporters, it's all Bill Clinton's fault.
Get real (literally).

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:56 PM
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21. Will I win the lottery?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:57 PM
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24. of course she will be blamed. I never want to see that new demeaning lable used again
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:57 PM
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26. Something that "occurs" to you is not "Breaking".... please reserve that word for REAL news....
...
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:55 PM
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110. Ahhh no shit. Do you post this little diddy in every silly breaking thread?
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:25 PM
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130. So you admit this is a silly thread?
and it's "ditty", not "diddy".
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:09 PM
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141. Yeah, I'm a comedian don'tcha know.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:00 AM
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156. And that's beside the fact that it's a wholly unoriginal post.
Same thing's been posted at least one other time in the last few days.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:58 PM
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27. What a ridiculous thread
Winners don't think this way, whoever they support.

I'm for the Dem noninee, myself.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:01 PM
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33. Supporting the nominee has nothing to do with my post. I'm not supporting a candidate.
But It just occured to me that when Obama loses the GE Hillary will be blamed.

Just bookmar kthis thread
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:18 PM
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60. Yes. She is working for the other side. Getting people used to the idea of losing.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:55 PM
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149. Hillary is working for Hillary
Obama is working for Obama

McCain is working for McCain

That's the name of the game.

I will vote for either Obama or Hillary.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:58 PM
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28. Nah...Hillary gets the nom.
Not sure how everything will play out to get to that point. But we will get there.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:49 PM
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101. nope, she ain't gettin the nom. And she sure won't win the GE. But that ain't what my OP is about
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:00 PM
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Did I ever tell you my sister, who is black, also didn't think Obama could win for a long time...
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 03:01 PM by Bonobo
I understand why she was so pessimistic of course.

Who could imagine something as unlikely as that happening?

Especially for some black people, it must seem really fucking impossible. I can appreciate that.

Still, I believe it can happen and I will tell you why.

The last 7 years have been so over the top that they have created a powerful recoil that will do the impossible, it will sweep Barack Obama into office.

That's why I believe. I believe in the fact that the underclass have had their asses kicked so hard, that it is creating a backlash and Obama is the prime recipient of it.

That's why.

No need to call people "Obamabots".
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:15 PM
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122. When I think that when I go to the hospital I don't get pain meds but a white person would
it makes me wonder, why would they trust a black man to run this country.

Think about it.

They would jail a young black male for getting a blow job from a 17 year old white girl...will they let a black man run this country?

So much shit is unspoken but you know it is there. I think he's doing great. He'll win the nom...but I don't see it.

As for Obamabots, you read in my post about the Hasshat post from yesterday.

That's all I'm sayin. Obama supoorters have been throwing around Hillbot for a while.

People get fed up. I'm not even a Hillary supporter and I'm fed up.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:20 PM
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125. "They" don't have to trust a black man to lead the country.
"They" can't and "They" never have been able to stop the PEOPLE when they are in large numbers.

That is what it is about.

A movement. Bigger than ourselves.

Time to hit back.

Obama will be our brass knuckles.

We will forge him into that fucking weapon.

By our enthusiasm.

We will take over this campaign. This presidency. Make it ours.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:49 PM
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148. Ok, I hate to rain on such wonderful optimism, but what are you talking
about?

""They" never have been able to stop the PEOPLE when they are in large numbers." What, are you kidding? "The People" in large numbers have almost never achieved anything, unless it is the will of the bosses.

"A movement". A "movement" that numbers something barely over half of registered Democrats? Remember that Kerry in '04 got 56 million votes (or there abouts) and lost. And even if it was stolen, Kerry did not become president.

I may not have seen the same Obama as you have, but he doesn't appear to be anything remotely like a set of "brass knuckles". Also, I don't think that you or anyone else is/are going to "make" him into anything other than he is. I support neither Obama nor Clinton, but you sure are putting a lot on Obama's shoulders...a whole lot...
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:00 PM
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31. Obama has a chance of winning the GE
hillary has no chance of winning the GE and yes, hillary will be partially to blame, she should have dropped out long ago and she should not have run her campaign from the sewer.

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:01 PM
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32. well, they would be correct to think so if that happened, IMHO
That's the problem with the sort of campaign Clinton has run: it opens her up to blame for the scorched earth strategy.
Although I wouldn't blame it all on her, its more complex than that, but certainly a great deal of the blame should be placed at her feet for not bowing out gracefully, like most politicians would have, for the good of the party and the country.

I recognize you will not agree with me, but that's my honest and impartial assessment.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:02 PM
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34. And you have a crystal ball?
I'll put you in the same loony bin as the DUers who were freaking out on Sunday afternoon, predicting this past Monday was going to be the start of another Great Depression.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:00 PM
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113. Nope, but I have a cousin named Crystal and I think she knows a guy with balls.
I just don't think Obama will win the GE.

I know he'll get the nomination though.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:27 PM
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131. You are one crazy fuck!
You give me a run for my money with smart assed comebacks.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:03 PM
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36. Breaking: you're a self-important idiot...
:eyes:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:51 PM
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103. And you have the reading skills of a pine cone.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:03 PM
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38. Yeah, I can see that happening to...do you blame them? Propping McCaints experience doesn't help
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:04 AM
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158. Don't burst the x-bubble. They seem quite proud of the prediction ...
... as though it isn't both perfectly reasonable and bleeding obvious.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:04 PM
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39. *plonk*
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:06 PM
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41. Breaking: *PLONK*
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:06 PM
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42. Hillary will be a prime target. Her McCain endorsement guarantees it. It's psychologically on
the same level that Naders "Not a dime of difference" was on, (treachery) and she has given far more ammunition than that to get her scapegoated.

She is a willing participant.

If Obama loses. But I think he can beat McCain.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:34 PM
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69. NEVER ONCE did HRC use the word endorse.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:01 PM
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76. I used the word endorse, but I'm not lying for Hillary. Her endorsement of McCain over Obama was
crystal clear.

Hill set herself up as the new Ralph Nader. He at least had the decency to run on a different party ticket.

If the Dems lose, it will be Hill's fault. You can count on it.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:02 AM
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157. Exactly. Her promotion of the Republican nominee over the Democratic frontrunner ...
... is the one truly vile act of her campaign (one vile point per occurrence). The rest of the filth has been Clinton-standard dirty politics, and is expected from Republican campaigns.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:08 PM
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46. Breaking: You are an idiot. Clinton's NEGATIVES are FAR GREATER than Obama's.
Why don't you read a few NATIONAL POLLS as of late that show Obama beating McCain and Hillary's negatives, which in some cases EXCEED 50%.

J
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:36 PM
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85. WHERE THE FUCK did I say she could win. I just said Obama won't...Hillary can't win either
but that is not what I'm saying.

I'm saying when Obama loses the GE Hillary will be blamed.

SIMPLE.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:10 PM
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48. won't each blame the other?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:43 PM
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73. You're kinda right, But I think that Clinton supporters kinda know she can't win...
they've seen the hatred,

with the rad left and the rad right on the same plain, she can't win.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:12 PM
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49. Of course they will blame Clinton
They will destroy the Democratic Party with this sham Obama and blame Hillary. The Kennedy/Obama wing doesn't give a damn about the Party -- only their own agenda. Ted Kennedy 1980 is proof.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:13 PM
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50. They'll blame Clinton and TEH GAYS!
I'd be willing to bet money on that.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:25 PM
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129. Yeah, the dayum gays. Gay, the new Black. ROFL. In the end...
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:26 PM by xultar
I hate to say it but being Gay will be the only acceptable group to beat up on.

And if that happens when I'm alive, I'm gonna start smackin heads. I'm resisting now. But in the future, head smackin will go down.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:15 PM
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53. Clinton cannot win the general election
I don't want to continue to post the reasons why, but common sense will tell you that if the majority of rightwingers would rather vote for Satan than HRC, and if a growing number of Democrats would like to shit on the ground where she was born, there is no way that she will win.

Not only that, but she will be a great voter-registration drive for the GOP and, once registered, these new voters may just turn up to vote against Democrats in future elections.

The only way the Dems can lose is if HRC runs as the Dem candidate.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:48 PM
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100. I didn't say that she could. Where did you read that. Can you point to it...
in my post?

I mean I know she can't either. But that ain't the point of my post. Read it again and I'll give you a quiz later.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:18 PM
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59. We've already figured that out.
If their beloved Obama doesn't make it to the White House, they'll blame Hillary and Bill Clinton. Bank on it.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:28 PM
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65. Well, I have purged H***bot from my vocab recently (not sure how long it will hold), ... but
anyway, no, stop projecting your own lack of confidence. Blaming others is an expertise that Hillary can claim (she does it soooo well), but I ain't gonna blame anyone IF Obama loses the GE except myself (you can never work hard enough for your candidate), the GOOPERS, and Obama himself.

:dem:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:43 PM
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94. Great reply. I like what you said. Bravo. BUT I'm talking about OBama supporters will blame Hillary
not Obama. I think you read in somthing that I didn't put.

OBAMA supporters will blame Hillary especially the ones here on DU. Just bookmark this post.

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Georgie_92 Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:31 PM
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67. Obama will be the next president.
Sorry no link, but I know this.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:50 PM
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102. Glad you are that confident. I'm not. I wish we had a do over. I don't like either Obama or Hillary
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:38 PM
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72. do you realize the amount of things that can happen between now and the election?
oh, and wasn't kerry ahead of bush at this time like 10 points around this time in 2004?

I feel confident mccain will not be the next president of the united states.

in 2004 i didn't feel like any of the democratic candidates could beat bush and i didn't really like the field that much. most of mccain's people will be coming out just so we don't have a dem, not because of enthusiasm like we have, which is a lot like what happened in 04, i think bush voters had more enthusiasm for their candidate, and thats what matters.

imo Hillary will not be able to get enough of the male vote to win. Yes, she did well with men in Ohio, Texas and probably PA, but I do not think she will do that well among men in general against McCain. I think Obama can do much better, and still get about the same level of support among women against McCain as Hillary/
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:35 PM
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84. I felt confident that Kerry was going to be the next pres. With that said...
I just don't think Obama can win the GE and I know that there is no way Hillary can't with the Freeper and Progressive hate towards her.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:16 PM
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123. There are so many things that can happen.
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:16 PM by loveangelc
McCain is a loose canon and will probably have a meltdown sometime in the general election, probably during a debate.lol

I did not think Kerry would be elected tbh. I of course would have voted for him if I could vote at that time, but I remember posting somewhere that I didn't think any of the democratic candidates would beat Bush. It was just an honest assessment of the candidates and I think I was right.

I think Obama will win, I don't care what polls say right now. Do you know how easily they can change before November? And even then polls can be very wrong...polls had Kerry up in Ohio and Florida, Bush up in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, and had it very close in New Jersey and Hawaii.

Don't always trust these "polls."

I was skeptical Obama would win NH, and wrote so in my friends livejournal before they voted, when polls showed Obama up.

Polls really mean nothing.

I just have a strong feeling Obama will be elected. McCain is only doing so well because no one is attacking him. Of course he's doing well now. I think Obama has a very good chance against McCain.

Is there any reason you think Obama cannot be elected?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:49 PM
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152. e.g. How many more times will McCain talk about al Qaeda and Iran colluding? n/t
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:44 PM
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74. oh cool another hate Obama post by a well can't call them Hillary supporters.
Nothing good to say about your choice for candidate? Hmmm..... wonder why
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:33 PM
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82. Where the fuck is the hate obama in this fucking post. I DARE you to point it out.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:47 PM
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75. Xultar, why not deal with your issues in private rather than on a public forum?
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:05 PM
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77. HALF the country can't stand Hillary. This is a FOOLISH post.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:06 PM
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78. BREAKING, your opinion is not fact
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:33 PM
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81. No shit! Duh.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:07 PM
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79. This just in: no one gives a shit about useless projections. That's why we count the votes.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:34 PM
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83. The attacks on our nominee Obama need to end. n/t
n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:38 PM
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89. I think it is an
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:41 PM
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93. How is it an attack when i said Hillary will be blamed when Obama loses the GE?
Are these people super sensitive or what? OMG. They'll never make it after the nom.

Their heads will burst from the pressure.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:44 PM
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96. De-programing will be the order of the day. -if that happens.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:46 PM
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99. I say, Obama is going to lose and his supporters will blame hillary...they say I'm attacking the
nominee...

WTF planet have I woken up on?
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:59 PM
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155. Well, lookee here. Two can play this game.




Here she is introducing a bill with her buddies:

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:40 PM
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91. how is this a fucking attack. ROFL. All I said is Hillary will be blamed when he loses the GE.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:37 PM
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87. Well . . . it certainly wasn't helpful that she threw him under the bus. nt
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:41 PM
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92. Clinton Is Already Going Nuclear - Which Will Hurt Any Dem In The Country
This fight is going to start creating a new reputation for Dems from weaklings and capitulators to a bunch of knuckleheads who can't get their sh*t together.
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:52 PM
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104. I don't think he will win the nomination.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:58 PM
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112. You are foolin yourself on that. Sorry, He'd need to be caught in bed with a dozen hookers
video, audio, stills, infrared, satellite, eye wittnesses and all that shit would needto happen for him not to.

Do you really want Hillary to win anyway? The economy is gonna tank more than it is now...shit is gonna get rough, I'd rather she not have to be blamed for it. Cuz you know she will.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:52 PM
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105. Another fool who thinks Grandpa McCain't won't get his tired ass kicked
The RNC knows Johnny Fearmonger McCain't is going to get his ass kicked in the fall. They are already starting to focus on 2010 races.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:53 PM
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107. Try rising above the bullshit next time.
I am sorry that some idiot used "Hasshat". Descending to that level just makes you also an idiot.

If Clinton wins the nomination and loses the election, some Clinton supporters will blame Obama supporters. If Obama wins the nomination and loses the election, some Obama supporters will blame Clinton supporters. So the fuck what?

How about when Obama or Clinton win the general election we all have a huge party 1-20-09 in DC?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:01 PM
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115. Nope I don't think Hillary can be on the ticket. I'd rather she not be because
if we lose, she'll be the blame.

So no OBama/Clinton ticket.

She won't get the nom either. I'm positive Obama will get the nomination.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:12 PM
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119. WHY DO YOU HATE BLACK PEOPLE?
It's wall-to-wall titties and nuts in here, amirite?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:17 PM
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124. youknowurite. black folk are always tryin to get me to eat BBQ. I hate that shit
but they keep on tryin. So, I hate'em. Quit forcin the BBQ on me and we'll be ah-ite.

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:33 PM
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132. I have that same problem with the gays.
Stupid queens are always trying to get me decorate some fucking room or do some god-damn floral arrangement shit.

Fuck that.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:03 PM
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140. ROFL.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:45 PM
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133. If Obama Loses the General Clinton WILL be to Blame
Everyone knows she's crossed the line.

The substantial lead of Obama in National Polls is being slowly, mildly eroded... by Clinton's Rovian Tactics and the obvious PRO CLINTON bias in most media.

The DLC is a neo-conservative think tank. Obama is getting deanscreamed because he takes none of the money.

It's that simple.

MSNBC which we're not allowed to watch on the prairie, is the only resource for escaping the 24-7 stream of BILE from the Clinton Camp.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:21 PM
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137. i know..shes been workin over time to turn him into "Damaged Goods" duh of course its her fault
why the do you think were so pissed at her? no reason? lol
dang man,
i was gonna support her at one time...

what shes done is inexcusable.
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CitizenRob Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:19 PM
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136. Breaking: Hillary supporters well stop at nothing to stab Obama in the back.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:17 PM
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144. you're joking right?
it's called a Primary
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:21 PM
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138. No, McCain will be so weakened by the deep recession that is coming
that either Obama or Clinton will beat him easily.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:25 PM
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139. No; the blame will be on disloyal dems who vote for McCain
over their party's nominee. Democrats outnumber repugs.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:11 PM
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142. isn't there a case for that?
Staying in the campaign. Scorched earth campaigning. Praising McCain and dissing Obama in the same breath.

These are things that are likely to help the eventual nominee?

Rush Limbaugh doesn't think so. He's loving her campaign, and her Ohio and Texas victories were enhanced by 100,000 Republican voters per state.


I don't care for this new wide stance of yours.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:24 PM
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146. No they will blame the gays...
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 08:24 PM by Solon
then again, if Clinton gets the nomination and loses the General, her supporters will either blame gays or blacks.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:31 PM
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147. *PLONK*
Plonk is a Usenet jargon term for adding a particular poster to one's kill file such that the poster's future postings are completely ignored. It was first used in 1989 and by 1994 was a commonly used term on Usenet regarding kill file additions.

The word is an example of onomatopoeia, intended to humorously represent the supposed sound<1> of the user hitting the kill file. It is also sometimes given as an acronym standing for Please Log Off, Net Kook, though this is likely a backronym. Other used expressions are "put lamer on killfile" <2> and Please Leave Our Newsgroup: Killfile!

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:55 PM
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150. She did ally with McCain to attempt to kneecap him.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:47 PM
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151. Very possibly. And they'll have many non-Obamabots agreeing with them, as well ...
... given Sen. Clinton effectively campaigning for McCain in recent weeks, promoting McCain over Obama.

Your post doesn't somehow magically wash-away what Sen. Clinton's campaign has done in recent weeks to the Democratic chances in November.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:00 AM
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160. I've thought that for a while now. for one thing,
Barack never ever fesses up and takes blame for anything ever (reminds me of Bush in that way), And his supporters constantly blame Hillary for the most ridiculous shit imaginable.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:00 AM
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164. John McCain thanks you.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:11 AM
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167. Put down your silly little faux crystal ball
You aren't some oracle. And you just make yourself look foolish. Odds are that Obama will win the nomination, but there's really no way of knowing for sure, just as there's no way of knowing 9 months out, who will win the GE. Time is not static. duh. Much will happen in the intervening months that could be bad or good for the fortunes of the nominees. Try a little common sense instead of resorting to such pathetic tactics.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:50 AM
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169. Recommended.
We should remember all the hate speech long after the primary infighting is over--so we can learn from it.

Also, all predictions should be subject to review later on.
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