3 New SUSU Head to Head match ups in Missouri, Ohio.and Kentucky.

[goldcanyonaz]

Missouri

McCain 48 Clinton 46

McCain 53 Obama 39

Ohio

McCain 44 Clinton 50

McCain 50 Obama 43

Kentucky

McCain 53 Clinton 43

McCain 64 Obama 28

Data here:

http://www.surveyusa.com/electionpolls.aspx

Data Collected: 03/14/2008 - 03/16/2008

[Botany]

1. Give it up

Hillary will not be the nominee.

No way .... no how ... end of story .... she is finished.

The only thing she is doing is hurting Obama in the
general election.

[goldcanyonaz]

2. Then he should be doing much better in the match ups. Why isn't he?

Oh yeah, it's Hillary's fault.

If that were the case he would be shutting her out and he just ain't.

[jackson_dem]

4. I have that person on ignore but I can guess what was said

When presented with the increasing evidence that Obama's electability is tanking they just ignore it and cling to their "belief" he is more electable.

[goldcanyonaz]

5. Synopsis: Give it up, you lost. Neener neener.

[Botany]

6. Obama has been kicking her ass from the get go:

He has more votes, delegates, states, and now super delegates.

Both Texas and Ohio had massive cross over voting that helped
Clinton. Even with that Obama won Texas (most delegates),
he will pick up another 2 or 3 from Ohio (uncounted provisional
ballots), and he just picked up 15 or 16 more delegates from Iowa
and California last weekend.

If Obama had lost as many states and was as far down as Hillary
the calls for him to quit would be massive.

Hillary sticking it out now says everything I need to know
about her.

[rodeodance]

27. BUT YOU

KNOW how a few weeks can change to tune.


http://bp3.blogger.com/_vH5f59Og-Sc/Rsk8dPZMnAI/AAAAAAAAA7g/JRs1kzPFYOU/s320/rove+obama.jpg

[Johnny__Motown]

10. Yes Hillary's fault

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsYWiywdCA&feature=related

she is hurting our party

[Johnny__Motown]

21. More evidence it is Hillary's fault

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brent-budowsky/hillarys-plan-to-elect-m_b_92142.html

[rodeodance]

31. I seldom ever go to Huff post anymore---they are quite like KOS

[roguevalley]

33. these polls don't matter between our person and mccain. its in the

matchup that they matter. you act as if mccain was a good candidate and not the tired old warmongering dimwit that he is. Who is going to support a candidate that wants a million year war with EVERYONE in the world?

[stevietheman]

26. Obama hasn't been to Kentucky much... yet... but he will....

and then his numbers will go up.

[jackson_dem]

3. Another poll showing Obama losing Ohio badly. His electability is tanking

Obama does 12 points worse in MS, 13 worse in OHIO, and 26 points worse in Kentucky. The evidence keeps rolling in: his electability is tanking.

28% in Kentucky? No Dem should be that fucking low, even in KY. Kerry got 40% and Gore 41% while Clinton won it twice.

[goldcanyonaz]

7. Not looking good in Missouri either, a state that many said Obama would take.

[Bigleaf]

9. Like hers was when she lost 12 in a row. Come talk some more smack come convention time.

That will be an entertaining time, that's for sure.

[jackson_dem]

17. Wrong. Her electability numbers held steady during that time

In fact she has gradually improved against the rethugs since the campaign began last year; Obama has went from big leads to this.

[Leopolds Ghost]

41. It's called race-based voting, I realize you are a goose in a new world here n/t

[mod mom]

8. Data Collected: 03/14/2008 - 03/16/2008 PRIOR TO OBAMA'S 3/18 SPEECH!

PLEASE make a notation that the polls you speak of have data collection prior to Sen Obama's 3/18 speech:




Data Collected: 03/14/2008 - 03/16/2008

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=32265e32-9fce-4c9e-83e1-509847379601

[goldcanyonaz]

11. Done.

[Botany]

12. thanx!

but please no facts

The purpose of these postings is to make people think that
there is more there than really is ..... bottom line
Nationaly Clinton has a 47% negative rating and the right
wing want to run against her.

[goldcanyonaz]

14. I was fair, I edited my post.

[mod mom]

16. I just sent Josh Marshall the same information to note.

Are you going to the antiwar rally tonight @ the Statehouse?

[Botany]

25. I was but I might pass on it

..... Nasty weather.

[mod mom]

40. Damn it was cold-upper 30's, blustering wind and pouring rain as we made our

way from Mound to the Statehouse. Thank goodness the rest of the event was inside the atrium.

[jackson_dem]

18. You guys are an echo chamber. That speech will have little or no impact

And any bounce he receives will be temporary.

[Not the Only One]

13. Hillary will destroy McCain-- just like Dukakis destroyed Bush in '88

GENERAL ELECTION POLLS IN MARCH ARE WORTHLESS!!!!

Dukakis probably felt like he had the election in the bag in March of 1988, too.

We need to focus on nominating the best person to be our nominee. November will take care of itself.

[goldcanyonaz]

15. Then Obama should be leading. Why isn't he?

[Kahuna]

36. You know full well why he isn't. It's just as Mr. Budowsky suggests.

The clintons are behaving like gangstas.

[jackson_dem]

19. They are important in that the "new" candidate should be leading big at this point...

Dukakis led by 17 as late as August. Obama is already losing...

Obama also has deep problems, such as hemorrhaging a large share of even Democratic voters. That didn't work for Mondale did it?

[surfermaw]

43. Mondale name lost for him before the race started

Mon on the name did him in.

[Straight Shooter]

20. Oopsie! What happened to Missouri? They don't trust him anymore?

:o

As for the speech and its effects, I think it was a Gallup poll which indicated 66% say it had no effect. I don't know how many it affected positively/negatively.

[4_Legs_Good]

22. bummer numbers, but really only KY matters at this point

The only really relevant number there is Kentucky, which indicates that Clinton will likely (though not surprisingly) win there, if the race continues until May 20.

The other matchups don't tell us anything inasmuch as the election is 8 months off.

David

[Johnny__Motown]

23. Electoral map McCain v .....

http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2008/03/06/electoral-math-as-of-030608-obama-280-mccain-258/

[goldcanyonaz]

24. That's from 3/6. That's outdated now.

[Johnny__Motown]

35. and your info won't be outdated in a month? every head to head

poll this far out is pure BS

[zabet]

28. ..

:hi:

[goldcanyonaz]

...

:hug:

[Zynx]

29. This just goes to show you that one can pick polls to make any point.

[goldcanyonaz]

39. These are the only SUSA polls released today.

[rodeodance]

30. Off to the GREATEST

[DrFunkenstein]

32. What This Doesn't Show is Turnout...Dems Will Turn Out in Droves

Even without Hillary Clinton around. We want it bad this time around and we've got all kinds of people who have never voted before (which is why they don't show up in polls of likely voters).

[liberal1973]

34. If Hillary is not nominee will you

support Barack Obama?

[goldcanyonaz]

38. YES!

[goldcanyonaz]

37. KICK

[Leopolds Ghost]

42. You started as a "neutral observer" backing Obama, did you not?

Then a few concern posts and voila! Hillary avatar...

[goldcanyonaz]

44. I have been a DIE HARD Hillary supporter since I joined.