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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:21 PM
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GOP See Rev. Wright as Pathway to Victory
From Politico

With Michelle Obama’s comments last month that she was, thanks to her husband’s candidacy, for the first time “really proud of ,” the topic entered the more mainstream elements of the conservative conversation, ricocheting across talk radio, cable news and blogs.

“All the sudden you’ve got two dots, and two dots make a line,” said Castellanos. “You start getting some sense of who he is, and it’s not the Obama you thought. He’s not the Tiger Woods of politics.”

But if Michelle Obama’s gaffe caused some ripples in the right-wing pond, the Wright videos have detonated the equivalent of a daisy cutter on the conservative landscape, awakening an otherwise dispirited party base.

“I usually get three or four emails a week on Obama,” said Michigan Republican chairman Saul Anuzis Monday. “Today I received more than 10, all of them on his minister.”

Among the e-mails Anuzis received was a link to a mash-up video splicing together Wright’s most extreme comments, Michelle Obama’s statement, footage of Obama not putting his hand over his heart during the anthem at a political event and images of Malcolm X and the two black Olympians in 1968 who raised their fists in the “black power” salute, set to Public Enemy's iconic rap song “Fight the Power.”

The video, titled “Is Obama Wright?” is described as being produced by something called “NHaleMedia,” apparently just a dummy website set up to produce anonymous and homemade videos."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9116.html
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:23 PM
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1. Bring it on.
Anyone so stupid as to fall for that is too stupid to vote Democratic in the first place.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:24 PM
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2. Bingo.
We already knew the cross-burners don't vote Democratic anyway.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:59 PM
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22. How did you get to "cross burner"? Obama has taken a weakness, a fissure in our
society and preyed upon it to maximize public sympathy for his candidacy. You know what, it's not working. The premise of the speech was to address Rev. Wright and it was turned into a guilt trip for everyone.

Whether Obama is black, white, yellow, gay, straight, atheist or christian he is accountable to the public for his actions and beliefs. We decide if we want him leading our country, not him.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:10 PM
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34. And when we decide that we do want him,
I hope everyone will get behind him and defeat the Republican.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:34 PM
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12. I second that....
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:24 PM
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3. Nope. not going to work.
First of all most people will see it as a distraction and not affecting anything in their lives.

Secondly this is just the right's expansive size myth-they do all kinds of things to make seem that there are more of them (even as their numbers in every single national poll are dropping like stones)
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:26 PM
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6. Well said
I actually find it very reassuring that the right is trying to win 2004 again. When this is all over, they won't know what hit them.
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The Ghost Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:24 PM
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4. The problem is
They may see even MORE dots with Hillary. Which is why either Dem needs to fight back HARD and FAST. I think both Obama and Hillary will fight them well and good.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:25 PM
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5. I thought propping up Hillary and letting her rip Obama
Was the GOP's "pathway to victory"
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:38 PM
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15. I think you are right....and it really worries me....some of the hillary
supporters act like they just came over from the repug boards..quoting WSJ and faux news....I hope this is not true...
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:26 PM
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7. "Is Obama a Muslim?" -> “Is Obama Wright?”
Same type of swiftboating, different day.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:26 PM
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8. elixer Sees Rev. Wright as Pathway to Victory
Mind meld.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:35 PM
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14. Supposed Democrats slavering over the prospect of a virulent racist backlash against one of our own.
Simply pathetic.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:43 PM
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18. give it a fucking break...like you haven't done Hillary the favor in kind!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:48 PM
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21. Actually, I haven't. Something you would know if you'd been paying the slightest bit of attention
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 03:48 PM by jgraz
I think a Clinton candidacy would be a train wreck of the highest order, but I don''t sit around rubbing my hands and cackling at the thought of a sexist backlash against her.

There are some things that should simply be beyond the pale in a Democratic primary, and cheering on bigotry just because it helps your candidate is one of those things.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:02 PM
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23. Blissful ignorance of the elephant in the room.: Obama's acceptance of Rev. Wright's message.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:10 PM
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26. Bullshit. Show me where Obama has accepted Wright's "message"
And by "message", I assume you mean only the nasty bits that Hannity spoonfed you.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:57 PM
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28. * cricket noise * cricket noise * cricket noise * cricket noise *
I thought so.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:00 PM
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29. I don't watch Hannity but, apparently, you do. I've seen much of the Rev. Wrong on youtube...
He hasn't denounced and rejected Rev. Wrong's anti white diatribes, this will be remembered by much of the voting public.

The sad part is that you can catch Rev. Wrong's stupidity on any channel you want, pretty much at any time you want. It will slow down eventually but right now Hannity is one of dozens airing this crap. Good luck.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:36 AM
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30. You might have missed the speech he gave yesterday.
"we've heard my former pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, use incendiary language to express views that have the potential not only to widen the racial divide, but views that denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation; that rightly offend white and black alike."

"I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy."

"But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren't simply controversial. They weren't simply a religious leader's effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country - a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America"

"Reverend Wright's comments were not only wrong but divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity; racially charged at a time when we need to come together to solve a set of monumental problems"

"The profound mistake of Reverend Wright's sermons is not that he spoke about racism in our society. It's that he spoke as if our society was static; as if no progress has been made; as if this country - a country that has made it possible for one of his own members to run for the highest office in the land and build a coalition of white and black; Latino and Asian, rich and poor, young and old -- is still irrevocably bound to a tragic past."


Now, assuming you have the capacity to read and process English, I have to ask you: How much more rejecting and denouncing do you want? Did you want Obama to bring Rev. Wright up on stage and kick him in the nuts? Or did you just expect a Clinton-style cleansing where Obama takes his pastor and friend of 20 years and tosses him under the proverbial bus for political expediency?



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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:36 PM
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33. He only condemns the statements that have caused the "controversy" That's pretty convenient..
"I'm sorry for whatever he said that pissed you off just, please, vote for me", he doesn't reject and denounce what Rev. Wright thinks or says because he's been living it, every Sunday for over 15 years.

He's a politician of convenience, whatever it takes for everyone to like him. No thanks.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:16 PM
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35. no, just cable.
There's a huge difference between cable news 24 hr. coverage and regular network news. I watch ABC and PBS regularly and they are on to different topics, like Cheney saying "who cares" to Martha Radditz, the Chimparooney's stupid comments on Iraq, Veteran's issues, violence in Iraq, Kenya's racial struggle, etc.

More people have broadcast TV than cable.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:26 PM
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9. And a Hillary Supporter is Helping to Spread That Meme
:eyes:
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:03 PM
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24. Educate yourself because this will be wall to wall. My little post didn't advance this by much.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:27 PM
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10. Bring it bitches.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:35 PM
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13. ...
:mad::rofl:
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:40 PM
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17. Maybe that should be an empty dress...
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:32 PM
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11. And one helpful DUer posted the video here a few days ago.
I wonder how he found it.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:38 PM
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16. They are welcome to try. We will be ready to respond with Hagee and Parsley.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:45 PM
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20. Great
A pissing match on whose religious freaks are worse - ours or theirs - just what we need. And with Hillary having something to do with that fellowship, that makes all three of them suspect to me.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:45 PM
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19. GOP See Hillary's lesbian affairs as Pathway to Victory
the GOP will push any insane angle it can in order to TRY to win

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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:04 PM
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25. OT, your handle always reminds me of Charles Krauthammer.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:15 PM
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27. That's fine. But the GOP blew their load way, way too early...
...on this one. It will be "so last news cycle" by the time August rolls around. And we haven't even really begun vetting John Hagee yet.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:38 AM
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31. Barack wasn’t electable before this
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:40 AM
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32. They're not going to trick us into running uninspiring Hillary
It is EXTREMELY important that we mobilize our base. We learned that with Kerry that having a completely safe candidate doesn't matter. What does matter is their ability to excite and appeal to people, not just weather attacks.
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