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Wed Mar-19-08 03:53 PM
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Obama's speech was a campaign speech, not a civil rights speech |
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and there was an agenda behind it. Most people realize it was nothing more than damage control and all it did is reinforced his love for 'Uncle Wrong'.
Thank God Hillary stayed in the race.
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:54 PM
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1. can you define "most people" a bit more? beyond your own opinion? nt |
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:55 PM
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2. It was both - OBVIOUSLY. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:56 PM
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It didn't change any minds so it was just a big poof of hot air...UP UP and AWAY!
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:58 PM
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9. Careful, you're liable to start a cyclone with that spin. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:56 PM
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4. it was a good speech, it was not transcendant. I agree. It was incredibly smart tho. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:56 PM
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5. Thank God and Greyhound |
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:57 PM
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6. It was the most honest speech addressing race that I've heard in years. nt |
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:58 PM
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7. most people: those on the Right who would never vote for him to begin with... |
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and those Democrats who think he is stealing Hillary's White House rights...
his supporters are glad he said what he said...and were going to be behind him no matter what he said...
and there may be several million people who listened and found something they either didn't know or feel about Obama, or heard some things that have made them consider looking at the Presidential contest in a different light...
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Wed Mar-19-08 03:58 PM
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8. At least you're not talking about his ethnic muslim background. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:01 PM
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11. At least you have stopped serving broken glass for school lunch |
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...well done. A small step, but progress. And the children thank you.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:02 PM
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12. Not that I ever have, but as far as I know he's not muslim |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:03 PM
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:10 PM
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17. And?? Thats the best you got? |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:12 PM
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20. Do I really need more? |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:02 PM
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15. I think he left that in the past |
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Now he is a good,honest,white loving Christian. :eyes:
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:01 PM
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10. Can you grasp the concept: "Multi-tasking"? |
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Civil rights and campaigning are NOT, repeat NOT mutually exclusive. At least not for truly progressive Democrats.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:02 PM
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13. Do ever offer HIllary positive support? |
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Are you even a Hillary supporter?
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:02 PM
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14. I don't see how that changes the content of the speech one bit? |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:10 PM
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18. Thank you for telling us what to think |
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even if it is completely wrong
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:11 PM
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19. The next Primary: Pennsylvania. The speech venue: Pennsylvania. |
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Obama thought no one would notice? "mustard and relish sandwiches" :eyes:
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:14 PM
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21. Wow, that is really sad. |
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If it was a campaign speech, he wouldn't have mentioned Wright 13 times.
If it was a campaign speech he wouldn't have challenged Americans to think.
Of course, going by Hillary's demographics, that thinking part might be kind of hard for you.
Have fun voting for McCain.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:16 PM
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22. Like who in the fuck are you to decide for us what what is? |
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I mean, was there some authority passed on to you to be the Historian of these United States?
Didn't think so.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:22 PM
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26. Samantha Powers...is that you? |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:30 PM
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28. and is that you.....monster? |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:17 PM
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23. It was both. It was NOT just a campaign speech, as it was not politically expedient. |
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If it was only about winning the election, his best course would've been to simply give a brief press conference in which he denounced Wright and broke all ties to him. What Obama did instead was look at the bigger issue of race in America, which is a risky proposition from a political standpoint. But he felt the message was important. He felt the civil rights message needed to be put out there, even if it wasn't the safest, most politically expedient course of action.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:18 PM
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24. The attacks on our nominee Obama need to end. n/t |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:19 PM
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25. THANK YOU for pointing that out. |
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There was something about it that made me uncomfortable - some disconnect. You've pointed out to me what that was.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:23 PM
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27. It was both and it did both very, very well. |
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Of course there was an agenda. He's running for POTUS. But it was much more than damage control and IMO it did much more than that.
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