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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:17 PM
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I'm donning my flame suit for this one, but, seriously, does anyone really want Bill back in the WH?
I liked the guy when he was Prez, but, shit, HRC's schedule dump shows how many times she was actually in the WH the same time he was getting blown by Lewinsky over the course of a couple of years. Holy Mackerel.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080319/ap_on_el_pr/first_lady_lewinsky_list_2

:dem:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:17 PM
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1. No shit.
n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:19 PM
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2. bil's a hasbeen pol hack and needs to get
to the elder statesman role he played so well.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:19 PM
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3. I wouldnt mind HIM in the white house
If he was prez, she sucks. Shes making it hard to want to vote for her should she be the nominee on the 1/110th of a chance.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:20 PM
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4. I'd rather have Bill back there than Hilary
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 08:20 PM by jgraz
But honestly, I don't really want either one of them anywhere near the reins of power.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:20 PM
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5. Easy to tell when Obama's in big trouble. RW talking points about the Clintons emerge.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:21 PM
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6. Yep.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:22 PM
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9. Talking points? I just posted a link to an article. It surprised me that
there had been so many encounters. I don't listen to RW media, but maybe I got infected somehow by my own sense of basic morality. :eyes:
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:23 PM
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13. Yeah your morals are showing. They're lame.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:27 PM
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21. Coming from a hilary who is a big time Loser.
that's a badge of honor.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:29 PM
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26. Coming from a Hilary? Makes no sense. Nothing new from you.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:29 PM
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24. ......





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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:32 PM
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31. Yeah no kidding.
So who is it dividing the democrats? Obama. No wonder he is losing support.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:45 PM
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52. Isn't that the truth? And it's very disappointing! nt
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:33 PM
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34. Lame???
Ummmmmm.....thinking that being faithful is LAME????

WTF gives with that? :shrug:
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:36 PM
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36. Yeah lame. Bringing up RW talking points is lame.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:44 PM
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41. Being faithful is an RW talking point!?!?!?!?
LMBO......:rofl:

I am totally liberal to the point of probably being a Socialist and I am an atheist and I believe that it is necessary in a committed relationship to be faithful.

So when did being faithful to one's life partner become an RW talking point? So...in order to again be a Dem and be considered liberal, I need to start cheating on my mate? Bummer...I am not seeing anyone at this time ~~ so I guess I have to get on one of those Senior Citizen romantic match sites and find someone to cheat on...or I am living an RW talking point! Welp, I guess I better get off here and start trolling for some guy who is at least breathing...at my age, that is about the only consideration any more!

BTW: You thinking process is fucked up to the max!

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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:50 PM
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43. Only in your mind you are.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:54 PM
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64. That was my criteria for putting whomever you're responding to on ignore.
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KC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:43 PM
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40. Yep
That's exactly what it is.


KC
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:21 PM
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7. Is that all you Obamabots care about?
Who's blowing Bill Clinton?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:21 PM
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8. There isn't a person here who wouldn't want Bill back in the WH, as well as in their own house
Admit it
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:26 PM
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17. scrubbing floors? OK
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:27 PM
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20. I don't want him anywhere near my house nt

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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:37 PM
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38. Where did you get that idea???

Heard of NAFTA? Deregulation? I don't want him back and i could care less if he were in my house unless he's got a contractor's license and will work for food.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:49 PM
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42. I already lived in a building with a guy who would come grab you when you were asleep.
I'm pretty much over it now. :shrug:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:19 PM
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45. He wouldn't by any chance be the past or present Governor of NYS would he?
:shrug:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:30 PM
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47. Nah.
He was just a garden variety prevert. :P
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:22 PM
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46. nope, not now that he has shown his utter selfishness
and willingness to destroy the democratic party for his ego.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:22 PM
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10. I have to say, you're right
Remembering all the scandals kind of makes me nauseous. I think I'd be more psyched about a Hillary presidency if Bill did not come with her.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:27 PM
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22. Funny. It appears Obama's own scandals are just starting. Get your barf bag out.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:23 PM
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11. You know, it was pretty easy to be sentimental about it all
before say, SC.

That reminded me of all the things I didn't much care for then. I don't think he's changed. He's still brilliant but terribly flawed. And I don't think he'd be able to keep his hands out - the only question is how tough she'd be willing to be post election about keeping him out of the driver's seat.

No, I'd rather remember the good old days with a little mist around them, you know? I don't really want to relive them now. Now is a very different time than then.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:23 PM
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12. There's been too much of him in her campaign.
I like him too, but I really think his presence has overwhelmed her. People come out to see him whether she is there or not. Then you realize that if she is elected, we are absolutely going to get both of them- because if she keeps counting her years in the WH as experience, then there is no way in hell he is going to be picking out china and drapes if he gets back in there. So his presence has made the campaign about the past and not the future. I like him, but I don't want him to be in the WH again.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:24 PM
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14. I'm not going to comment on what he should or shouldn't have been doing, but...
This one takes some balls. Where was the SS, staff, etc? In the HALLWAY :rofl:

_Jan. 21, 1996: The first lady had no public schedule, but she and the president privately toured an exhibit at the National Gallery of Art. Lewinsky and the president had an afternoon sexual encounter in the hallway by the private study next to the Oval Office, Lewinsky said later.
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DB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:24 PM
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15. O.K. with me. Just as long as he isn't allowed to share the bathroom.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:25 PM
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16. I want Michelle Obama in the WH
Bill was a decent pres, but he wouldn't make a good first-spouse.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:26 PM
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18. i love hil and i'd prefer to see Bill C not back in the whitehouse. :(
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:27 PM
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19. Hell Naw! Enough Already!
I'm not defending that shit anymore!
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:28 PM
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23. I loved Bill Clinton
but not any longer. And no, I don't want them back in the WH. No hereditary monarchies for the United States.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:30 PM
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28. Hereditary? They aren't related by blood. That would be Chelsea. n/t
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:29 PM
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25. Well, at least Bill has always been proud of this country.
And, seriously, you think he's bringing Monica with him or something? Was that the story on Rush Limberger-Head today?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:30 PM
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27. All This Monica Blowjob Bullshit Today. How Fucking Immature And RW'ish This Place Can Fucking Be
sometimes.

Seriously... It's like freeperville of years past.

Have some of you learned nothing these past years? We're sitting here obsessing over monica blowing bill again? For real? Here? You can't do better than that?

So fucking stupid this place can be sometimes. Some of you seriously need to grow the fuck up. And don't tell me about "oh but it's in the media" blah blah blah. The msm is a fucking joke and always has been. All of a sudden all of you are sitting there with your mouths wide open begging them "feed me more! feed me more! I love you msm!!!". Sometimes it makes my skin crawl to read some of the shit here.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:30 PM
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29. Yes Yes Yes, if it keeps a republican out ,he is considered to be one of the top 5 best Presidents
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 08:32 PM by surfermaw
Don't take out on Bill because his wife is running that is stupid. he stoped a recession in his first months , he inherited 17 trillion dollars of debt from the Bush and yes Reagan, he almost broke us with the cold war, as Bush Jr. is doing with a real war, So again yes, if it keeps a republican out... Bill Clintons health is bad, the republican party mostly the Bush,s
almost killed Clinton, they stayed on him from the first day until the last day he was in office, partly because they knew Hillary was preparing to run and they wanted to stop the Clintons...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:02 AM
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69. He sure the hell is not considereed one of the top 5 presidents
not even close. Presidential historians and others place him in the middle of the pack in every list.

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/presrankings1.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:32 PM
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30. The Clintons would be the ones to get the flamethrower in the GE.
This is the issue in this election. Do we want to revert to the past and GAMBLE BIGTIME on the POLARIZING Clintons whose nomination would cause the R's to dance in the streets, or do we want a NEW leader with a new vision and new kind of politics? This is a no-brainer. If we go with Clinton redux, the R's will laugh all the way to the November voting booth, and we may well have just committed political suicide AGAIN.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:32 PM
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32. Once I would've but remembering the constant
scandals I don't want any Clinton back in the Whitehouse.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:33 PM
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33. Could it be that the Monica thing was known to her?
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:02 AM
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66. Perhaps not Monica, per se, but HRC enabled his sexual addiction throughout their marriage
She was the beard who enabled him to campaign as though they had a monogamous marriage.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:35 PM
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35. And such posting has hurt Obama,His voters his worst enemies
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:38 PM
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39. The Clinton era was the best ever for middleclass and poor America
Just a fact!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:37 PM
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37. so you have no idea of the floor plans of the Wh nor just how big it is and how it's run.
just saying you should visit it sometime.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:12 PM
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44. I do. nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:36 PM
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48. Used to be you had to go to Free Republic to get this shit.
Now you can get it right here! Progress!
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:43 PM
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50. amen! gawd. just stoopid remarks passing for commentary
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:54 PM
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49. You know, my overwhelming feeling is that I'm just done with the Clintons.
Done, done, done.

Back to 90s history with you, Bill and Hill.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:44 PM
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51. Great post. Absolutely, the man saved our economy. Thanks for reminding me how great he is.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:53 PM
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53. I did grassroots work for Bill in 1992 and felt betrayed by 1996
The release of Hillary Clinton's First Lady schedule just reminds many of those times...the good, the bad and the ugly. Of course, the ugly will come out first.

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peruviancharm Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:57 PM
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54. Bill Clinton was a very good president
I think he would do more good than harm. By far.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:59 PM
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55. As an Obama supporter, I ask that this line of discussion be put out of out collective misery
Thank you.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:06 PM
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56. Frankly, I think he'll be spending a lot of time in Harlem still, or in the other wing.
She'll be in charge.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:10 PM
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57. I. for one, LOVE the idea of having Bill back in the White House
So, go ahead, shoot away. I love Bill.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:11 PM
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58. Yes!
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:14 PM
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59. No Freaking Way!! We just won back Congress. Why lose it again?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:15 PM
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60. You will be surprised to learn that many men have voted for Clinton
in primaries because they want Bill back in the White House.

When will DUers realize that Clinton was the first Democratic president to be re-elected since FDR?

That he left office with the highest approval rating of any president before him (and, no doubt, the one that followed him)?

That he took a major deficit, larger than all previous years combined and replaced it with a surplus?

That even with a Republican Congress under a petty directions from Newt, the 90s were an economic expansion that helped people at all income level?

I understand Republicans hanging on the Monica affair as the only marker of his presidency, but Democrats?

JFK is very much admired on these pages. After all, the Obama supporters compare them. Yet, JFK's affairs, yes, in the White House, were notorious, and dangerous, "sharing" a mistress with a mob boss.

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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:54 AM
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75. Thank you! A lot of people on this site
seem to have forgotten how popular he was/is and also don't recognize how the rest of the country sees things.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:18 PM
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61. pretty shallow reason for making a decision like that
don't you think?

you do "think" don't you?


or are you really as stupid as the garbage you post on this site would lead one to believe?
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:46 PM
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63. Bill Clinton, the only dem 2 term prez since Truman..
Yeah! I Want Him Back! Especially his economy! He can bring the bimbos with him too! Bush has no bimbos, well ok...maybe jeff gannon. But he doesn't have anything to brag about, he's turned everything to shit and I am so tired of holding my breath everytime he opens his dumb mouth and makes an ass of himself. Clinton, intelligent, charismatic, accomplished, 23 million new jobs, surpluses, cheap gas, cheap student loans. A president that was loved everywhere he went in the world, the only democrat to be a 2 term president since Truman....that's a very long time ago (1945-1953) Think about it.. no Democrat has been able to do that SINCE. He survived the republican assault and left with higher approval ratings than Reagan. Bet Nixon and his VP would have loved to say that...they were out the door and down the street by popular demand.

On a personal note, I really don't believe either Clinton or Gore would have ignored Richard Clarke warnings. He was appointed in their administration and completely ignored by bush and his incompetent crew. I remember the "Wag the Dog" republicans when Clinton wanted to go after bin laden. Hope the bastards are ridden with guilt now.

As for his infidelities.....I live in NY State, we lived through Rudy and no one really gave a damn who he slept with. We just lost Spitzer and while we were all excited about having the 1st Blind, Black governor...turns out both he and his wife have been sleeping around..and so it goes. Hopefully it doesnt go too far...since we no longer have a Lt Governor, next in line is the senate majority leader...a republican. This after years of Pataki. So I'm hoping people in NY will look past his affairs, give him and his wife credited for going thru a rough patch and keeping their marriage together. We have a budget crisis here and thats more important than anyones sex life.






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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:25 PM
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62. not without a titanium chastity belt, we don't
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metalluk Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:57 PM
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65. Yes,
but only as "First-Stud." I bet Monica wants him back there, too, and will be applying for a job as his special assistant.
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Pringles Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:17 AM
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67. Absolutely.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:30 AM
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68. I have thought about this one...and No
Not that I don't respect Bill, but the times are different. Sometimes experience is a detriment, as far as providing a dated and fixed frame of reference that is no longer flexible or even useful.

I think the economy is the biggest issue, and the biggest economic issue is our military position. Obama has the best possibility of handling it. I think both Hillary and Bill would favor the 80's status quo positioning that they see as normal - essentially an "empire". It is no longer the case, and a new paradigm is essential.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:08 AM
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70. Very definitely.... who doesn't besides a few spoil-sports and the r-wingers
n/t
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:10 AM
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71. He doesn't look very good these days....
will we have to pay for another coronary bypass for him and his hamburgers if she gets in?
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:56 AM
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72. No. n/t
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:07 AM
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73. When did so-called liberals
become so obsessed with Bill's cock? it used to be a right-wing affliction.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:16 AM
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74. They had a "closed" marriage...
Some have "open" marriages. They had a "closed" marriage as in she didn't care and still doesn't. When you look back at that infamous 60 Minutes interview, she made it perfectly clear that what Bill did was Bill's business. She didn't care. So why should anyone else?

His presidency wasn't so hot. Looking closely, it merely continued the Bush presidency in many ways which probably explains all those photos of the two of them together. Always smiling. Bill Clinton just kept the seat warm for the Bush to follow so to speak. And now Hillary Clinton wants to keep the seat warm. And why not? As Bill Clinton found out, being a seat warmer pays extremely well. So far, at least by estimates, it's paid at least $50 million. Not a bad deal considering they were in debt eight years ago. So in another eight years, they may double their money. It's all about the money, honey, with those two.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:54 AM
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76. That flamesuit makes you look fat. The answer to your query is yes.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:15 AM
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77. Absolutely not

His baggage is Hillary's baggage (not that she doesn't enough already). And the
way he's been acting during this whole election makes me wonder about his
mental health.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:17 AM
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78. TO Me, And Many Other, It Would Be Camelot Part II
And yes, I'd LOVE to see him back in the White House!:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :applause:
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:18 AM
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79. No. Do. Not. Want.
We cannot trust him. He crapped all over us with the Lewinski thing. And that was while he was freaking president!

God knows what he'll do now to embarrass us, all while working toward centrist instead of progressive causes.
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