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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:32 PM
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Obama blasts Hillary's MI/FL delegate issue LIES ! (Good !)
Barack has had to once again respond to LIES from Hillary, this time about her latest attack on the MI/FL delegate issue. Today he told Anderson Cooper correctly that back in Iowa Hillary said that she essentially supported the DNC rules decision. Only after she started losing did she pull the flip flop and start lobbying so heavily for Florida and Michigan delegate seating. And within the issue she has flipped around from saying CRAZILY that MI and FL should be seated "AS IS" even though her name was the only one on the MI ballot (she wouldn't remove it like all the others did) and there was no real campaign (Hillary did under-the-radar efforts in these states though, especially Florida which was gamed significantly both before and then after the vote there with her trip to FL and "victory" speech). Obama AGAIN stated clearly today that he supported seating the MI and FL delegates in a FAIR way with DNC certification. He has said this MANY times before, and no doubt he'll say it again. It is SICKENING that Hillary continues to GAME this issue to try to attack Obama when she and her team know full well what his position is. (NO NO NO, he is NOT suing over the PROPOSED MI re-vote. He has raised some good CONCERNS about the plan, and the MI legislature is the body that has said they don't have the votes needed to pass this plan.) It is all yet just another disingenuous, phony bunch of Hillary campaign CRAP. She and her team will stoop to ANY gutter level depth to try and win this primary. ANY level ! And a blind person can see it plain as day.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:37 PM
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1. How does she keep her god damn lies straight?
Years of fucking practice.
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:40 PM
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2. Obama does make a good point, the primary was open and the plan currently
is to close out independents;that is patently unfair. It should be the same with the re-vote as it was before.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:42 PM
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3. DAMN RIGHT !
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:42 PM
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4. Woot!
Call her ass out. :applause:
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:56 PM
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6. Yes ! Obama should make a major statement in his next speech
SLAMMING her for this latest round of PURE and COMPLET CRAP !! Obama needs to take off the gloves and ram every single one of her COMPLETE AND UTTER LIES on this issue and all others right up her BUTT ! God I hope they have video of her endorsing the DNC rules decision on MI and FL. Use it against her BIGTIME. Plaster it all over YOUTUBE. And they need to flame her on her NAFTA lies, her tax record evasion, all her other records evastion, her endorsement of blowing off mountain tops in WV, her and her allies stated desire to allow the superdelegates to overrule the elected delegates, her Iraq vote, Norman Hsu, Rose Law Firm, Walmart Board, Travelgate, Whitewater, her lobbyist and PAC $, and every single other rotten piece of crap in her closet. Then they should take it all and ask the public if this is what they want to GO BACK to, or do they want to NEW leader and a truly NEW direction. Do they want the PAST or the FUTURE?? Do they want more of the old WASHINGTON same? Or do they want something NEW? This is the narrative context to frame it all into.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:08 PM
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8. Hello.
Obama has far too much class to slam others or ram things down others throats or up their butts.

I don't think he would agree that this is the narrative context in which to frame it.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:05 PM
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7. Hello and welcome to DU.
Obama has way too much class to call her ass out. He uses logic and reason in making his arguments.

That's all.
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:13 AM
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10. Thanks
Yes, it's above him to call her ass out the way we'd do it. But using the truth and hammering those points home still counts as calling her ass out in my book. :-)
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:45 PM
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5. I'd rather win
on issues than distortions anyday
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:38 PM
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9. Hillary did not lie. You cannot cite one single real 'lie' she has told.
Unlike Obama, who just recently had to change prior statements -- about decriminalilzing pot, about never hearing Wright say anything objectionable and that he favors a 'fair' seating of the Michigan and Florida delegations (he wants anything BUT a fair seating, because that would give many votes to Hillary.)

People who accuse a person of lying (as I do Obama) should be able to cite specific incidents where that person has been caught in a provable lie (as I do Obama). Those who call people liars without any proof (like the OP) are themselves the liars (like Obama.)

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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:19 AM
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11. Here's one
Source: Reuters

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton now argues that the North American Free Trade Agreement needs to be renegotiated, but newly released records showed on Wednesday she promoted its passage.

The National Archives and the Clinton presidential library jointly released more than 11,000 pages of Clinton's daily schedule as first lady from 1993 to 2001.

The release came in response to charges that she is overly secretive, and also allowed her campaign to promote her argument that she gained valuable White House experience during her years as first lady.


That won't look good if the MSM picks up on this.
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