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Wed Mar-19-08 09:51 PM
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Do you think that Obama would endorse some of the hateful comments that you make on this discussion board? If Obama's policy is to unite the country I certainly hope that he doesn't ask you to help him out because with some of the venom that you are using in your postings you are only succeeding in dividing the party.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:52 PM
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Just like Hillary wouldn't condone what some of her "supporters" on here say either.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:52 PM
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Some of you brought this on yourself by spreading lies, and I'm sure Hillary endorses your behavior.
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:59 PM
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Thu Mar-20-08 12:03 AM
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48. You gotta admit, he does have a point against Clintons |
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:53 PM
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3. I've been laughing my ass off |
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His supporters stand for everything but what he preaches.His speeches mean nothing because they haven't sunk in to his most ardent supporters. Hypocrites.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:57 PM
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14. Good thing you're free to be a liar and a cheat like your mentor. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:58 PM
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16. I don't have a mentor |
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:59 PM
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That's why I called for a moratorium on engaging in flame wars for Obama supporters yesterday. I did not want anyone to ruin his message of unity. Some of the Obama supporters were good, but a few continued to post incendiary comments, as do many Clinton supporters every day.
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:47 AM
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53. I noticed when you did that. Just wanted to let you know that positive gestures |
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like that are seen and noted and appreciated by at least some here.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:00 PM
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18. Let me ask you...do you think Hillary would approve of YOUR comments here? |
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You've gotten pretty ugly yourself at times, including your deleted post last night. And if you don't think she would, which I highly doubt she would, wouldn't your complaining about Obama supporters make YOU a hypocrite as well? :shrug:
His supporters stand for everything but what he preaches
This is true (though you should amend that to "some" of his supporters), but you're kind of saying that Hillary DOESN'T stand for what Obama preaches...unity. ;)
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:03 PM
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23. While Hillary's supporters have no such standard in their candidate and so are free to be as nasty |
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:14 PM
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29. Exactly.. ergo the double standard. You be nice because Obama is. We'll be evil because... |
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:22 AM
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:53 PM
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4. I don't know why you give this one-sided presentation |
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When both candidates have some nasty supporters.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:53 PM
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5. it goes both ways, plenty of nasty rhetoric on both sides. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:54 PM
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6. Why not go back to quoting John Gibson AL? |
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:11 PM
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25. Are you saying that you have never given some thought to |
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what somebody has said that does not belong to your party? I loathe John Gibson. I think he is trying to compete with Bill O'Reilly at being a right wing shock jock. Its just that I happened to have heard his comment and was just wondering what opinions other people had about it. I was not expecting such hateful venom from some Obama supporters.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:54 PM
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7. Exactly what do you expect in reaction to the dirty tricks and... |
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...nastiness that has come out of the Clinton campaign?
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:14 PM
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31. I think that you are a bit paranoid |
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:22 PM
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35. I think you only want to examine one side and turn a blind eye to the other. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:54 PM
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8. I think he touched on that in his speech |
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:54 PM
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9. We're trying to keep up with the hateful comments of the Clinton supporters..... |
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....But... I admit.... that is hard to do.
These Clinton supporters are professionals when it comes to spewing hate.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:56 PM
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12. I wish I would have saved all those nasty posts |
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directed at me. Just because I don't worship Obama.I don't really care. I just laugh it off.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:55 PM
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10. Also, I am no aware of anybody on DU who speaks for any candidate |
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I speak for myself. So do many others. Why is that hard to understand?
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:13 PM
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28. I'm not aware of any poster who speaks for a candidate, but I have my suspicions |
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There are too many total apologists on this board to not come to that conclusion. It's against DU rules to name names, but I'm guessing that we could probably shout out a few.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:55 PM
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11. Nope. That's why I issued an apology to DU yesterday. |
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But, when you have some Hillary supporters (especially new ones that keep popping up every day) saying the most vile things about Obama and being almost gleeful over the Wright controversy, it's hard not to react to them.
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:57 PM
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Wed Mar-19-08 09:57 PM
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15. No. I have been saying that for a while |
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That's why I call out Obama supporters so often that I have been accused of being a closet Clinton supporter, which I most certainly am not.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:00 PM
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I think he'd be quite disappointed in many of his supporters here.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:01 PM
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20. I'm so sick of this hypocrisy, from the top down. I've been watching |
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supporters of Hillary "tear the bark" off of Obama since I came here as a Biden, then Edwards supporter. And all the while, they whine about people "attacking" Hillary. You'll notice the campaign does the same thing. They launch a dirty tactic then accuse the other campaign of doing it. They put out smears and slanders and lies that Obama HAS to respond to - (because if he doesn't respond he's a coward and not able to fight the GOP, right? Isn't that what you say? Debate me OR ELSE, you coward?) - but when he responds he's "ruining his message of Hope and Unity".
You hypocrits can't have it both ways and this is some freakin sick shit you post here. Look at it, for god's sakes. I don't care, at this point, what you people say or think about me. Obama supporters here defend against slander and you start the same tired meme. Those HillTrolls (yes, that's exactly what those like you are) who aren't on my extensive ignore list better be prepared to get a dose of NO UNITY when you start this crap here, because I'm fucking over it.
Sell your bullshit somewhere else. I've heard it a million times and I ain't buying. None of us are.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:02 PM
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22. BTW, another "welcome to DUer" slamming Obama. Looking for the gang from Kos or FR? They're here. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:02 PM
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Seems they are even more hateful and less tolerant when their candidate does something for the good of the nation. Rabid dogs come to mind.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:04 PM
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:11 PM
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26. Fortunately for both candidates, some of their supporters aren't officially with the campaign |
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Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 10:13 PM by Cant trust em
There would be a lot to apologize for. Just like with some of Clinton's supporters on here. Let's not forget that both sides have their wack jobs.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:22 PM
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34. I wont deny that some Clinton supporter have been nasty as well |
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Its just that because I support Hillary, I have been on the receiving end of some very nasty comments from some Obama supporters.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:24 PM
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36. I know where you're coming from. I don't doubt that it's happened to you. |
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I think that part of the problem is that Obama supporters are outnumbering the Clinton supporters on DU these days. I'm at least thankful that your OP had some in all caps. I've been lumped into a huge group of nastiness too many times with other Obama supporters. Thanks for that.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:29 PM
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It seems that a lot of Hillary Clinton supporters have abandoned a lot of discussion boards
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:38 PM
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41. I prefer Obama, but I am a Clinton supporter |
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I am not opposed to senator Clinton so I'm saying this as an observation, not out of malice. But I think that some of those people left because Obama supporters were jackasses to them. But I also suspect that she lost 11 primary contests in a row and then started doing and saying things that get harder to defend. I personally went from thinking that we had a stable full of great candidates who were honest, forthright and true. As the Clinton campaign started to veer off course it seems like she lost sight of what this race is all about and I started to get turned off.
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:16 AM
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50. posted in wrong place |
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Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 01:24 AM by Cant trust em
whoops.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:12 PM
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27. It's a lost cause with those you're addressing. |
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Of course there are decent BO supporters, but I've been keeping a list of posters on both sides who post vile things against a candidate and / or supporters. Strong criticism won't do, it has to be vile, hateful, full of spite and dark unsupported attributions of malevolent motives. It has more than 100 names of BO supporters, and less than 10 HRC ones. To be fair, I started fairly late, after a lot of HRC supporters left. What's amusing is that to be put on one of their lists, all you have to do is to post misgivings or criticism of Obama. It's crazy. I see no way I'll be able to work with these people after the nomination.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:14 PM
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30. There are about a jillion true and important things that Obama can't say.... |
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... fear of wounding tender angelic white sensibilities and scaring them away from that oversensitive angry black man. Thankfully, the rest of us aren't running for POTUS, and hence are free to call fucking jackassery what it is.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:16 PM
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32. good luck with this one... |
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they crap on Obama and his message non stop....hell some of them make the rethugs over at FR look civil.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:21 PM
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33. they don't understand what you are saying. people who spew hate... |
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Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 10:23 PM by annie1
don't actually care about what obama is talking about. And i'm not sure Obama is really serious btw, about being a uniter. I WANT to believe it. very much so, but i'm not buying it at this point. He's just gathering a mob it seems like.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:30 PM
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38. No but Hillary would.. (link provided) |
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:38 PM
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40. Emotions run deep in DU it seems... |
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But I've never said a harsh thing about Hillary Clinton. I lean towards Obama but I like her a thousand times better than McSatan. I know it's hard to see clearly now but I have faith that when this is all over, we'll be hugging each other and jumping up and down on inauguration day.
Cheers.
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:44 PM
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42. I would like to believe that you are right |
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I'm sure that if the repugs were taking this discussion board serious, they would be rubbing their hands together, knowing that they had divided and conquered
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Wed Mar-19-08 10:48 PM
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43. It goes both ways, quit be melodramatic |
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:26 PM
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44. the Obama supporters.... |
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are making a huge mistake. I support Hillary 100%, but I will concede that Obama appears to be the likely candidate. If Hillary were ahead at this point, I would be the nicest person this board has ever seen. I cannot think of one single reason why I would do anything more to antagonize the Obama supporters when I knew my candidate would need them in order to win the general election.
The fact that vast numbers of Obama supporters would prefer to vent rather than behave in a way that would help them achieve their goal just makes an even stronger case that their logic is severely distorted.
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:34 PM
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I am not condoning any nasty pro-Clinton messages, but I do think that a lot of nasty pro-Obama messages sound more defensive than positive. We know that one of three candidates will end up being president. However, with the economy going into free fall, my confidence in McCain is zilch and my confidence in Obama is shaky because of the experience he lacks.
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Wed Mar-19-08 11:39 PM
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46. A minority of Hillary supporters would still make you look bad |
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Seriously, you're basically blaming all Obama supporters for the actions of a noisy and obnoxious minority.
Similarly there is a minority of Hillary supporters that behavior atrociously as well.
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Thu Mar-20-08 12:06 AM
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49. We are like Hillary....the truce was only good for a day. |
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Truce over. War back on. Oh, wait, Barack wants to end the war....Hillary hasn't made up her mind, yet....
But, I promise I will try to be nice. But, after eight years of being "Bushed", I am bushed....
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:44 AM
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...there should be a brokered convention that selects another nominee.
It'll prevent a McCain victory. The Clinton and Obama folk are so dug in that they're likely to never vote for the other. If 40% of either's supporters sit out that's 20% of Democrats. we can't walk into the general election with 10-20% of the vote tied behind our backs. (so to speak - wow what an awkward metaphor.)
A brokered convention that doesn't select either would put a shot across the bow of people who would tend to be a**hats in the future on the "behalf" of their favored candidate.
Fixes things now, prevents problems later.
What's to not like?
oh, before anyone yammers at me about "having their vote count"...Bullsh*t!
It's such a mush any way. I'd trust a truely representative democrats to choose for me rather than trust this screwed-up primary process. You know, the one that's served us sooooo well in the past two presidential elections.
If you look at the real interests of the people the Republicans shouldn't even being in swinging distance of stealing elections (as they have).
Why? Well just look at the people we run.
Fine people, but not our best bets.
Sorry Hillary. Sorry Obama.
Better luck next time.
If they don't hear it now from us then they're likely to be hearing it next November.
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