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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:54 PM
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If McCain Camp Put Selective Wright Excerpts on Youtube, Why Aren't Dems going out to hammer Hagee?
Is it for the same (partly racial in this case,
partly battered-wife syndrome) double standard
that drove them not to demand rightie talkers' resignation
for saying the same things before asking the same of Imus?

Is it because most Dem bloggers buy into the MSM fallacy
that progressives are wealthy, young and nonreligious,
and therefore have nop business lamenting the twisted
theology of the Republican Psarty's spiritual advisors?

Has Obama bought into the pink-tutu jujitsu mythology,
saying "I take you at your word, John, you didn't do
this so I won't attack you for your similar position?"

Is it that Hillaryites genuinely prefer McCain to Obama
or worse, white to black when it comes to "America-hating"
pastors like Hagee?

Why are pro-Clinton (and pro-RW) black megachurch leaders
from places like LA coming on MSNBC and saying Falwell
doesn't matter because he's dead, Robertson doesn't matter
because he's old, "Wright will bot go away because he
represents an old and discredited theology of the black
church", "the so-called social gospel is really just
black separatism" and worst of all "Obama must now come
before the American people andf say 'I reject any religious
belief that is contrary to the national interests of the USA'"?

All of these things have been said.

Where's post after post about Hagee from self-hating Dems
who don't seem to knoew the difference between real and fake
Christianity? Don't they know Christ got crucified for speaking
out against the social order from top to bottom?

I am reminded of the "black Jesus" episode of Boondocks.

Nobody likes the idea of a black Jesus, or a
black liberation theology, it seems.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:56 PM
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1. I can't wait for this in the GE.
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 09:57 PM by Patsy Stone
Bring on the war of the incendiary pastors.
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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:21 PM
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2. Like Bartcop say,
Dems do not know how to fight.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:40 PM
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5. They are "battered" by the media and pushed right by the Overton window.
The Overton window grinds on a notch this week, as it is now
not just controversial, but un-American, to say that America
has traditionally been ruled by rich, old white men.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:20 PM
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3. I've been asking the same question.
It's because neither of the two big egos, Hillary and Obama, can put their country first and drop out and support the other one's run.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:31 PM
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4. I also don't understand why they don't go after
Hillary's secret Fellowship.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer-3.html


"These days, Clinton has graduated from the political wives' group into what may be Coe's most elite cell, the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast. Though weighted Republican, the breakfast—regularly attended by about 40 members—is a bipartisan opportunity for politicians to burnish their reputations, giving Clinton the chance to profess her faith with men such as Brownback as well as the twin terrors of Oklahoma, James Inhofe and Tom Coburn, and, until recently, former Senator George Allen (R-Va.). Democrats in the group include Arkansas Senator Mark Pryor, who told us that the separation of church and state has gone too far; Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) is also a regular.

Unlikely partnerships have become a Clinton trademark. Some are symbolic, such as her support for a ban on flag burning with Senator Bob Bennett (R-Utah) and funding for research on the dangers of video games with Brownback and Santorum. But Clinton has also joined the gop on legislation that redefines social justice issues in terms of conservative morality, such as an anti-human-trafficking law that withheld funding from groups working on the sex trade if they didn't condemn prostitution in the proper terms. With Santorum, Clinton co-sponsored the Workplace Religious Freedom Act; she didn't back off even after Republican senators such as Pennsylvania's Arlen Specter pulled their names from the bill citing concerns that the measure would protect those refusing to perform key aspects of their jobs—say, pharmacists who won't fill birth control prescriptions, or police officers who won't guard abortion clinics.

Clinton has championed federal funding of faith-based social services, which she embraced years before George W. Bush did; Marci Hamilton, author of God vs. the Gavel, says that the Clintons' approach to faith-based initiatives "set the stage for Bush." Clinton has also long supported the Defense of Marriage Act, a measure that has become a purity test for any candidate wishing to avoid war with the Christian right.

Liberal rabbi Michael Lerner, whose "politics of meaning" Clinton made famous in a speech early in her White House tenure, sees the senator's ambivalence as both more and less than calculated opportunism. He believes she has genuine sympathy for liberal causes—rights for women, gays, immigrants—but often will not follow through. "There is something in her that pushes her toward caring about others, as long as there's no price to pay. But in politics, there is a price to pay."
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