Coincidence? Or, the Clinton's strange relationships with Right Wing media.

[wisteria]

Yes, this could be a tin foil hat post, but then again there may be something below the radar going on here. I think it is odd how Right Wing radio and Fox News in particular are obsessing over the Senator Obama/Reverend Wright story and not even mentioning little ol Hillary. Now it could be because Senator Obama is the front runner, but that doesn't explain what the Clinton's are doing by courting and dinning with the likes of Rupert Murdock of Fox News fame and Richard Mellon Scaife the filthy rich liberal hater who paid millions to try and nail President Clinton on anything his money could find and owns one of the most biased right wing rag newspapers in Western PA. Check out the articles below.

"Rupert Murdoch and Hillary Clinton: New Odd Couple"

The Observer's Ben Smith writes that the possibility of an alliance between "two of the most powerful and guarded figures in the world — is beginning to whet the appetites of the chattering classes."
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/6/15/232033.shtml">link

"Murdoch fund-raiser for Clinton creates buzz"

"The Clinton-Murdoch alliance is not entirely new. The two have been moving toward a détente since 2000, when she won her Senate seat after a campaign that included a series of not-so-flattering Clinton headlines in another Murdoch property, the New York Post.

Murdoch has also developed a relationship with former President Clinton, a prime target of criticism from Fox and the New York Post during his presidency. Murdoch participated in a conference of the Clinton Global Initiative last fall, and the former president is scheduled to address a gathering of News Corp. executives in California later this year."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12762092/">link


"Could Rupert Murdoch make Hillary Clinton the next president?"

"Imagine a day next year when The Wall Street Journal endorses Hillary Clinton for president.

I know what you’re thinking: “A cold day in Hades when that happens.”

Then imagine a day when a President Hillary Clinton, contemplating the launch of another preventive war somewhere in the world, calls Rupert Murdoch to talk things over.

Now you’re thinking I’ve lost my mind.

But consider that Murdoch is about to buy the Journal. Then consider the hand Murdoch had in making Tony Blair the British prime minister ten years ago. And finally, consider the revelation this week that Blair rang up Murdoch three times in the days just before the launch of the Iraq war." http://www.dailyreckoning.us/blog/?p=445">link


"What's in a Murdoch-Clinton Alliance? Something for Both Sides"


"The brazenness of this move is almost too much to stomach," wrote David Sirota, a liberal commentator, on his blog. "Here you have a leading Democratic U.S. senator engaging in a 'mating ritual' with the head of the news network that has overtly worked to systematically destroy both the Democratic Party and her own husband's administration." http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/10/nyregion/10hillary.html?_r=1&oref=slogin">link

And then there is Bill Clinton and his new found friend.


"So Happy Together"

"Bill archenemy Richard Mellon Scaife now has 'admiration' for him. Huh?"

"But there was something unusual, if not plain weird, about the meeting. NEWSWEEK has learned that the billionaire so eager to endear himself to the former president was Richard Mellon Scaife—once the Clintons' archenemy and best-known as the man behind a "vast, right-wing conspiracy" that Hillary Clinton said was out to destroy them." http://www.newsweek.com/id/69545">link



"Personal diplomacy, however, is the true calling of the senator's husband, who has done everything from touring the Post's newsroom to recording a birthday tribute to Fox News chief Roger Ailes." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-stark/hillary-and-bill-clinto_b_41823.html?view=screen">link

"Scaife is lunching with Bill Clinton these days and saying he admires him:"

"Bill Clinton now finds himself the unlikeliest of Scaife heroes. Last month Ruddy posted a softball interview with Clinton on the Newsmax site (sample question: "What is the best thing about being an ex-president?"). A worshipful cover story followed in the current edition of the magazine. Clinton, it gushed, is "a political and cultural powerhouse" who is "part Merlin and part Midas—a politician with a magical touch." http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4497661&mesg_id=4498269">link


After reading these articles I got a real sick feeling that even Pepto Bismal couldn't help. These articles reinforce the idea that the Clinton's will make nice with anyone to gain money and power. These alliances make me trust the Clinton's even less and raise real major concerns that if Senator Clinton somehow makes her way to the White House we will all be saying "meet the new boss- same as the old boss" and this undoubtedly is not the "real change" I think we are all hoping for.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

1. yapyapyap Hillary's an agent of Satan yapyapyap agent of Satan yapyap Hillary......

,

[wisteria]

You are the one calling her names, I am just saying perhaps the Clinton's can't be trusted. n/t

[Skwmom]

7. Perhaps? I'd say they definitely cannot be trusted.

[EFerrari]

23. When you have nothing, bring out the puppets!

lol

[ElsewheresDaughter]

26. yup when you're exhausted from trying to bring balance...you guys need to take it easy on

this ol'Hillary supporter....have some mercy

you out number us 40 to 1


so i need puppets for sanity

[Skwmom]

30. Oh I think the Hillary paid posters are not the minority on this board.

But what the heck, the Hillary camp always like to play the victim. As they say, the tone is set at the top.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

31. ewww

[EFerrari]

32. After your behavior here today, it's a little much to ask for sympathy.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

38. ask?

[David Dunham]

2. B-llsh-t. Murdoch's NY Post endorsed Obama for the Dem nomination

[wisteria]

3. Oh he could of done that to keep the hounds at bay. n/t

[Skwmom]

5. You mean the phony Obama endorsement which was really a Hillary endorsement.

It's called substance over form. It might have been called an Obama endorsement but in substance it was actually a Hillary endorsement. In fact it included many of the Clinton campaign false Obama memes. Heck, they probably wrote it and forwarded it to Murdoch.

Murdoch's press helped Clinton win the primary b/c it played the age, gender, and victim card for her. It was a mass manipulation of the talking heads and the public.

[guruoo]

9. But, but, you're not supposed to remember that.

Time to lose the unauthorized memory, and get with the programabama!
:rofl:

[Skwmom]

13. Anyone with half a brain could tell it was not an endorsement of Obama.

It was intended to hurt Obama and help Clinton.

[Skwmom]

4. Clinton Buddy Murdoch doing Hillary's dirty work? That was going to

be the title of my next post.

I was thinking the same thing earlier. I think it's pretty obvious that this is exactly what is going down.

[wisteria]

6. Thank you. The whole RW message on this over blown Rev. Wright matter

is way over the top for a primary. And, Hannity has been trying to convience people that this matter could make him unelectable in the general election. Now, who would benefit if something like this happened?

[Skwmom]

12. This needs to be posted on every board, called into CSPAN,

Ed Schultz, and every other progressive talk show.

It is obvious that this is happening. The first response to your post is a dead give away that your post struck a nerve. Someone should put together a well written summary of what has transpired during the primary regarding Murdoch news. When you see the pattern, it is obvious the Clintons are in bed with Murdoch.

[goletian]

17. hmm, hillary is pretty nice with mccain, and bill is pretty tight with bush's pops...

this is some pretty disturbing stuff.

[Skwmom]

27. I listened to this one book written on Hillary Clinton. It was definitely not an anti-Clinton book

and it alleged that Clinton said that she and Bill had been approached to let Bush Sr win a second term. In return, they would guarantee the Clintons a free pass in 1996 (basically saying Clinton would win the Whitehouse in 1996 if he would wait his turn). B/c they didn't agree to the deal the other side was outraged.

Now fast forward to Bush running in 2000. The Clintons sure didn't help Gore in 2000 as many have pointed out on this board. Then in 2004 their henchmen Carville helped the Republicans win OH in 2004. Then Bush picks Cheney, a person who says from the beginning that he will never run for president leaving the election wide open in 2008. Bill Clinton has become close with Bush Sr and defended Bush II on more than one occasion (e.g., Katrina and the War). I can't help but wonder if the Clintons didn't strike a deal with the Bush family.

[goletian]

33. i hate conspiracy theories but sometimes you cant help but wonder... nt

[Skwmom]

36. They've tried to make conspiracy a bad word but you can be charged with

a conspiracy crime b/c guess what - conspiracies exist. Furthermore, the political world is nothing but conspiracy and manipulation.

On edit: people have conspired for much less than establishing a political dynasty which includes holding the highest office in this land.

[goletian]

40. yeah, its the really scary ones i dont like to consider. - nt

[guruoo]

41. Might just work if you repeat it often enough

[Forkboy]

8. That post would be improved by removing the Newsmax link.

Just sayin'.

I've been harping on people all week for using that site...not stopping now.

[AlCzervik]

10. the op would be vastly improved with a link from CNS and some steel drums.

steel drums make everything better, imo they're the new cow bell.

[Forkboy]

15. ....

I hate SNL and have for years...but THAT sketch is a classic (Walken always helps). :rofl:

[AlCzervik]

16. ok you have to do this ok---even if you don't want to--alright? Ok so i'm in my

car a couple of weeks ago with my daughter and Billy Squier - Everybody Wants You comes on and right between the lyrics "You give it all away----pause------when everybody wants you. Ok in that pause if you mentally include cowbell it becomes a vastly improved song. It starts to become habit forming, adding the cowbell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atZ_0Akm8h4

[Forkboy]

20. Oh man...you're evil

I can't believe I just shut down Opeth for Billy Squier.... :rofl:

And what's worse it sounds good! I was in a band briefly way way back when and we did the song Stroke Me in our set (we also blended the Pink Panther theme with Wipeout by the Venturas...fuckin' cool shit!)...I can't believe I'm admitting this.

And what's even worse than my last "what's even worse" is that you're right...it needs the cowbell!!! :rofl:

[AlCzervik]

21. sorry man, it just happened one day and i now i can't control it.

you'll be doing that a lot now, mostly on "Classic Rock" stations which apparently Squier now s which makes me feel really old but...thats where there's the most material to work with.

[Forkboy]

24. Thank the Devil I never listen to the radio.

That would kill me.

Of course, now I'll be doing it to the Dead Kennedys and shit...thanks a lot! :spank:

:D

[wisteria]

11. I don't want to remove it now, but there are many more articles on this very subject matter.

I will not use another NewsMax link from now on.

[Forkboy]

14. Fair enough.

The site really sucks, and regardless of which choice we prefer I hate seeing it used against any Dem.

:toast:

[Skwmom]

28. Exactly. The Clinton/Murdoch link has been extensively posted.

[goletian]

18. hmm, check this out...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/07/16/hillary-clinton-shuns-fox_n_56495.html

Hillary Clinton Shuns Fox Debates, But Pockets Murdochs' Money

July 16, 2007 10:04 PM


Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards may not want to participate in debates sponsored by FOX News, but they like taking cash from officials of the company considered an arm of the conservative movement by many liberal Democrats.

In April, Edwards led the charge in refusing to participate in a Fox-sponsored debate. His deputy campaign manager, Jonathan Prince, told AP: "We believe there's just no reason for Democrats to give Fox a platform to advance the right-wing agenda while pretending they're objective."

Within days, Clinton followed suit. Unlike Edwards, Clinton did not directly attack Fox in announcing her decision.

"We're going to participate in the D.N.C. -sanctioned debates only. We've previously committed to participating in the South Carolina and Tavis Smiley debates," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said. The Fox debate was not DNC-approved.

Obama joined in with Clinton. Bill Burton, Obama's spokesman, said a CNN-sponsored debate would be a more "appropriate venue."

But in her most recent filing at the FEC, Hillary Clinton reported two large donations from the very top of the Fox corporate structure.

On June 5, Rupert Murdoch, chairman of the News Corporation, gave her presidential bid $2,300. A few weeks later, his son, James R. Murdoch, chief executive of British Sky Broadcasting in London, gave $3,400. Altogether, NewsCorp/Fox executives gave at least $40,000 to the Clinton campaign.

In July 2006, the elder Murdoch hosted a fundraiser for Clinton's Senate re-election campaign, raising many eyebrows among Democrats. The Financial Times, which first disclosed the event, noted that Murdoch was a part of the "vast right wing conspiracy" named by Hillary Clinton as determined to destroy her husband's presidency.

She explained her willingness then to accept Murdoch's support to the FT: "He's my constituent and I'm very gratified that he thinks I'm doing a good job."

Asked about the Murdoch contributions to Clinton's presidential bid, Howard Wolfson, director of communications, said he had no comment.

Obama has taken more $14,000 from NewsCorp/Fox executives, although none came from the Murdochs themselves. In the broad network of NewsCorp/Fox holdings, with many Hollywood and entertainment entities, there are a substantial number of Democrats on the payroll.

Obama's contributions from NewsCorp/Fox executives included $2,300 each from Daniel Fawcett and Donna Isaacson; $1,000 each from Carla Hacken and Jospeh Hartwick; and a number of donations from other NewsCorp/Fox officials and employees. No comment from the campaign was immediately available.

Edwards received substantially less than Clinton or Obama. His contributions from NewsCorp/Fox executives Louis Supowitz, Jonathan Sarrow, Sean A. Riley, and Jonathan Sarrow total just under $1,000. There was no immediate comment from the Edwards campaign.

[dailykoff]

19. It still cracks me up that she called her bus the "middle class express"

as if it wasn't already completely clear that she's the candidate of big business, like big oil, big media, weapons, and Wall Street.

[Skwmom]

22. The DLC populist Edwards will probably arrive on the scene

shortly attesting to Clinton's passion for fighting for the middle class and poor (b/c for Clinton it's personal).

[EFerrari]

25. She's tone deaf to a fault.

You have to give her that.

[Skwmom]

29. No. I think they think they can just repeat something often enough that

people will accept it as fact. Critical thinking has really almost ceased to exist in this country.

[EFerrari]

34. Actually, I think that's something the media learned from old school bigots.

Code largely depends on context and you build context in part with repetition.

But, sure, people can't think their way out of their plastic grocery bags. There's nothing in our culture any more that asks them to.

[stillcool]

35. Another little something...

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/10/22/america/drudge.1-156891.php

The Drudge Report warms to the Clinton camp, or is it vice versa?
By Jim Rutenberg
Published: October 22, 2007

WASHINGTON: As Senator Barack Obama prepared to give a major speech on Iraq one morning a few weeks ago, a flashing-red siren alert went up on the Drudge Report Web site. It read, "Queen of the Quarter: Hillary Crushes Obama in Surprise Fund-Raising Surge," and, "$27 Million, Sources Tell Drudge Report."

Within minutes, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's fund-raising success was injected via Drudge into the day's political news on the Internet and cable television. It did not halt coverage of Obama's speech or his criticism of her vote to authorize the war in 2002, but along the front lines of the campaign - the hourly, intensely fought effort to capture the news cycle or deny ownership of it to the other side - it was a telling assault.

Clinton's aides declined to discuss how the Drudge Report got access to her latest fund-raising figures nearly 20 minutes before the official announcement went to supporters. But it was a prime example of a development that has surprised much of the political world: Clinton is learning to play nice with the Drudge Report and the powerful, elusive and conservative-leaning man behind it.

That man, Matt Drudge, came to national prominence a decade ago as a nemesis of the Clintons who used the Web to peddle, gleefully, the latest news and rumor generated by the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

That people in Clinton's campaign orbit would tip off the Drudge Report to its fund-raising numbers is in part a reflection of her pragmatic approach to dealing with potential enemies like Newt Gingrich or Rupert Murdoch.
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Clinton's communications team, led by Howard Wolfson, is not leaving Drudge to the Republicans. Five current and former Democratic officials said Clinton has on her side the closest thing her party has ever had to Rhoades in Tracy Sefl, a former Democratic National Committee official. The officials said that Sefl had established a friendly relationship with Drudge and that Clinton's campaign often worked quietly through her to open a line of communication with Drudge.

Though liberals say Drudge's ideological imbalance remains plain, Republicans, who viewed the site as theirs in campaigns past, say they are noticing what they believe to be more Democratic driven, often Clinton driven, items on it.
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Former Republican Party and Bush campaign officials said that in 2004 they considered Drudge's site so central in their efforts to undermine Senator John Kerry's presidential campaign that they systemized their approach to him.
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Through that system, Bush's aides funneled embarrassing tidbits about Kerry in which mainstream news reporters had initially shown less interest. From time to time, those former aides said, an item's appearance on Drudge would drive it into mainstream news coverage: A video clip of Kerry contradicting himself, or a photograph of him wearing a protective germ outfit.

[Skwmom]

37. A common interest - China.

This was posted at huffingtonpost

Great catch from Portfolio.com's Jeff Bercovici: GQ has released its "Most Whipped" list — what it calls "the twenty-five most emasculated, disempowered, henpecked husbands on the planet." And there are several media names on the list.

Coming in at Number 8 is Rupert Murdoch:

8. Rupert Murdoch

Wendi Deng was just another twentysomething MBA (and thirty-eight years his junior) when she netted the Aussie billionaire master of the universe, whom she seems to enjoy belittling in public. According to New York magazine, she's said to have revealed that he uses Viagra (but doesn't need it) and once asked him in front of colleagues, "Are you going deaf, old man?" In January, Deng got her mighty mogul to play waiter at a women's-empowerment event in Davos, Switzerland, much to the amusement of Murdoch watchers the world over. Then again, waiting on Deng has helped Murdoch gain access to the multibillion-dollar Chinese-media market, so who's using whom?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/19/rupert-murdoch-larry-kin_n_92430.html

[rug]

39. They want to control the minds of the youth.

[Perry Logan]

42. They are neutralizing the enemy. It's brilliant.

[wisteria]

43. No, they are in bed with the RW media in order to help her win. Disgusting. n/t