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Thu Mar-20-08 07:59 AM
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I'm an Obama supporter but I don't like these posts about where Hillary was when Bill was cheating |
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How is this relevant? Its not. Its not her fault he cheated on her in the same place she was in. Lets stay classy Obama supporters.
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:01 AM
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:35 PM
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52. its probably not relevent but its inevitable. given she says she's |
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so damned experienced, it impelled someone to challenge that and brought everything forward. Its her own decision to praise her tenure beyond what even neutral people could believe that caused them to dumpster dive. I hate this shit but it was inevitable with the system we have now. What amazes me is that she can't see beyond the moment as to how this will come about.
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:02 AM
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I really don't care.
Especially when there are real problems found in her First Lady papers.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:25 AM
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28. You know when all this went down with the Dawg and Lewinski |
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I was thinking what the hell is the rethugs doing. They were swiftboating him all over a BJ. So these kind of posts remind me of that.
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:04 AM
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3. That was the purpose of demanding them...to smear her |
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In eight years, there will be things to distort and take out of context. The purpose was not for anything other than political mud slinging.
And the proof is in the use.
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:04 AM
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4. Ever think maybe it was from the Clinton camp to garner the sympathy vote |
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Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 08:20 AM by Skwmom
and to maybe support the bogus argument that she is vetted (ignore the tax returns, donations, etc. that they have failed to disclose).
On edit: But if there are true Obama supporters pushing the Monica issue, drop it b/c it only helps Clinton.
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:06 AM
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5. But it shows unity and hope! All of the hallmarks |
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of a true Obama supporter.
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:06 AM
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It's totally irrelevant, childish, petty, trivial bullshit. There's absolutely no reason to be bringing it up.
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:09 AM
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7. There is one thing that bothers me about this issue of Bill Clinton cheating. |
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I do have what I feel are legitimate concerns about what may go on in the WH if Hillary was prez and if Bill Clinton does what he seems to have been doing regularly duirng the course of his marriage to Hillary ~~ cheating. I recall so very clearly the mess from Monica-gate and how this took so much time and energy that really could have been devoted to very serious matters. How they run their marriage, I could not care less about any arrangement they may have ~~ what I do care about is what repercussions that arrangement might have as to wasting time dealing with this kind of fall-out bullshit like what happened with Monica-gate.
I don't want to see that kind of circus again because Bill Clinton could not keep his pants zipped. It just is not needed at a time when there are so many pressing issues going on and the last time it happened, Hillary stated (paraphrase) that she just wanted to crawl into bed, stay there and pull the covers over her head. Soooo...I have some serious concerns about who would be answering the red phone under these circumstances.
JMHO
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Thu Mar-20-08 02:26 PM
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54. Good point. I never really thought of that. |
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My feeling was that Bill is Hillary's biggest asset, since he's a brilliant man, was the perfect "empath-in-chief," and has amazing charisma. He campaigned here in my little burg, in support of the Democratic congressional candidate in 2006, and I was fortunate enough to see and hear him. It was SRO in my very red district and he had everyone there, including me, absolutely mesmerized. He couldn't have been better, still has it, whatever "it" is, LOL. Though I think that we can pretty much see the handwriting on the wall, as far as the nomination is concerned, though I've sure been wrong before, most of the time, actually, LOL, since I've voted for Democrats ever since I voted for Jimmy Carter, back in 1980... *sigh* :shrug:
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:15 AM
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8. agreed. it's tasteless. n/t |
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:16 AM
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It's tasteless and irrelevant. We don't like when they post right-wing talking points about Obama's pastor, so we should not post crap like this.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:44 AM
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my point completely.
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:17 AM
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:19 AM
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However, I do think it is appropriate to point out to any Hillary supporter who criticizes Obama for not leaving his church when the pastor said something he didn't like that such criticism is just as inappropriate as criticizing Hillary for not leaving Bill when he cheated on and humiliated her.
Both involve personal decisions in connection with complicated interpersonal relationships and no one should be so arrogant as to second-guess how either of them decided to do what they did.
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:22 AM
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12. I think most view those |
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kind of posts as desperate and below the belt. They carry no weight. Old news and irrelevant.
Thanks for your post.
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:23 AM
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:24 AM
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14. I dont agree with it either, but |
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Let's keep in mind that Hillary coming back means Bill comes back, and Bill has been known to do stupid things.
I don't think that part of it is irrelevent. A great many of us are trying to avoid this scenario. I don't know if I can go through that crap again.
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Thu Mar-20-08 08:26 AM
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15. I don't want to hear about that either not now or in the GE |
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I support Obama. I don't want to listen all over again about the crap storm against the Clintons started by the Republicans in the nineties. Posts about that crap are no better than folks around here that use newsmax as a news source. I want to move on, and when Obama is in the GE, we won't have to hear about this stuff anymore. I'm sure our friends at Fox and newsmax will have other BS to hurl at us.
:toast:
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:01 AM
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16. Agreed. It adds nothing to the debate |
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At least not to the debate we SHOULD be having.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:11 AM
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17. The focus should be on other aspects of the records |
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like her Pro-NAFTA documents (which she lied about to the good people of Ohio) and her failed Health Care Reform initiative, not to mention all of the lies about her very important USO tours with Sinbad and Sheryl Crow while she touts her foreign policy experience.
Talking about the Clenis and the Blue Dress for the millionth time only gives her a sympathy vote.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:13 AM
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:14 AM
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19. Thank You angie. K & R |
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:14 AM
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21. It's about what she claims she was doing |
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and where it is proven she was. The info relating to Bill's affairs is not the point.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:15 AM
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22. I don't like her honesty either. |
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:17 AM
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24. Agreed.. its ridiculous. |
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:19 AM
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26. Where are those posts? |
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All I've seen lately are Wright Wright and Wright.
Very classy on the part of HRC supporters...NOT.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:22 AM
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27. I would agree, unless Hillary has been lying to us to cover for Bill's sexual predator behavior. |
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Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:24 AM by InAbLuEsTaTe
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:27 AM
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Hillary Clinton was cheated on,publicly humiliated and somehow it is acceptable to abuse her all over again for what her husband did.It's just flat out wrong and disgusting and has no place here at D.U.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:28 AM
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:33 AM
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32. This Obama supporter says |
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K&R! Mes sentiments exactement.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:33 AM
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33. It's not relevant, it's an attempt to point out |
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the ridiculous accusations that Obama was a racist because of Reverend Wright's comments.
Guilt by association can cut both ways, so Democrats should be careful not to give Republicans more ammunition.
But the comment are ridiculous. So are the argument about Clinton's schedule, except... she opened herself up to scrutiny by slamming home how experienced her and McCain are, so what kind of experience was it really.
Now Obama and Clinton are going to lose on national security and experience, unless McCain make an ass of himself again...
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:34 AM
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34. I agree it's a nasty subject...sucks to bring it up.... |
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But when a candidate bases experience on what they observed or did while their spouse was president. Than there is a valid point to the question... were they really paying attention?
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:37 AM
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35. Thanks. I totally agree. Still waiting for a similar post from a Hillarite re: Rev. Wright. |
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Not holding my breath there
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:37 AM
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36. She can't control her husband...how will she control the country? |
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...It has nothing to do with class....this is about bringing a howitzer to the Clinton gunfight...
I am sick of her shit....
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:48 AM
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Why hasn't this freeper been banned yet mods?
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:39 AM
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37. I'm More Interested in her campaigning for NAFTA as first lady. n/t |
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:47 AM
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47. If she knew then what she knows now about NAFTA |
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if she thinks NAFTA is bad now, it would help if we knew why she supported it then. Like Pelosi, or Bill Clinton and most Democrats, they have been brought up with the myth that "free" trade is always good in all situations and workers and environment be damned! I hate to say it, but Obama seems to support that myth too, he just wasn't in the White House pushing for the enactment of NAFTA.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:41 AM
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38. Ditto that, angie_love. |
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:43 AM
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39. Hillary supporters don't crumble under this sort of thing-- |
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We're very accustomed to right-wing attacks.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:45 AM
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I didn't care about his affairs in the 90's, and I certainly don't care about them now. It's not her fault that he cheated. And it's really none of our business.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:45 AM
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44. Obama supporter supporting this OP! |
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It's horrible to see the sexist, nasty posts against Hillary Clinton on this supposedly Democratic board.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:46 AM
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45. /signed. Obama '08, but some of his supporters need to be like him and take the high road |
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This resurrection of Lewinsky is horseshit.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:46 AM
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46. I agree whole heartedly. |
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I think these type of posts have nothing to do with Hillary or HER candidacy.
We are better than that.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:48 AM
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49. Agree...the press has made such an azzes of themselves. |
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Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:52 AM by avaistheone1
No wonder no one is buying newspapers anymore, and television news viewership is down...
This story is of zero importance to our country and to our future.
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:19 AM
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50. I agree completely and I am also a supporter of Barack. n/t |
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Thu Mar-20-08 12:01 PM
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51. No need to attack Hill on Bill's sexual conduct. |
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Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 12:12 PM by ingin
There's no reason for it to be discused other than Bill in the White House with nothing to do. This is not Hill's fault.
Besides, there are enough policy problems to point out from the Clinton administration like NAFTA,FCC deregulation, and Bill's contributions to Military Privatization.
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Thu Mar-20-08 01:38 PM
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53. I agree. I'd rather hear about her active support of NAFTA and other things SHE was involved in. |
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Seems like the media is more interested in rehashing Bill's cheating.
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