NBC Today played Wright clip WITH audio "G-D America"... MSM trying to take down Obama

[npincus]

and it looks like they are succeeding.... turning this clip into the 2008 "Dean Scream", STILL playing it ad nauseum- ingnoring Obama's Iraq speech yesterday, and McCain's senile dementia episode (repeating 3 times after correction that imaginary Sunni al Qaeda are training in Shi'ite Iran).

That's it... the MSM has clamped their jaws on this one and are not letting go. Joe S. was particularly odious this morning; I just took 90 minutes out of my life to write him a diatribe on this.

Obama supporters: what do you say? What can we do?

[SoonerPride]

1. Hang in there.

I think it will grow stale and they'll move on.

[npincus]

2. thank you.

It's been such a tough 8 years for all of us...

[trained specialist]

52. Why shouldn't NBC show this clip?

Nobody put a gun at Wright's back forcing him to do this.
Nobody put a gun at Obama's back forcing him to befriend this
pastor of Hate for 20 years.

[SammyWinstonJack]

56. Insert Hillary and obama fans would be e-mailing the stations and praising them.

[Binka]

63. Fuck Off Troll

[oviedodem]

3. There is nothing we can do because of the simple mindedness and hypocrisy of

a vast majority of people. I am sorry to say it, but facts are facts. It is okay for everybody else to "hear" what they want to hear in their churches and from their people but for him it is different, for black pastors that say crazy remarks it is different. What more is there to say other than what it is.

I am not going to sit here and poo-poo the facts, America has not evolved and do not want to discuss anything.

[tridim]

4. The MSM is taking itself down. Fuck 'em.

Most Amercians with a heart know what the media is trying to do and have already moved on.

[angie_love]

5. may I ask why they played it again today?

[npincus]

14. That 10-second clip is TOXIC... with no counterpoint... NO REASON to play it

other than influencing an election. The MSM will be responsible for racial/political wounds that will not heal if they manipulate this election.

[BeyondGeography]

6. Divide, distract, deflate

[K Gardner]

7. I've written at least twice a day for a week now. I know thousands have.. about

Scarborough, Buchanan, et al. I don't think its doing any good. If we had the support of the ENTIRE party, we might be able to mount some kind of defense, but we are also fighting against people in our own party who think this is a "good thing" because it will tear Obama down.

[TwilightGardener]

8. They are just trying to get ratings. Keep the controversy alive!!

Just like the OJ trial! Gets the blacks and the whites all inflamed and no one pays attention to the real lack of news reporting.

[MNDemNY]

9. Does this surprise you?

Wait until the GE if Obama is the nominee. You ain't seen nuthin' yet!

[Connie_Corleone]

10. McCain will be president if Hillary gets the nomination because of this.

Do Democrats really believe that by giving the nomination to Hillary because of this manufactured controversy that black people (and SOME others who support Obama) are just going to shut up, sit down and vote for Hillary in November after the nomination was taken away from someone who had the most votes, the most pledged delegates and won more states because the superdelegates got frightened by the right-wing again?

Keep dreaming.

As the one post with over 100 recommendations said, the silence of the Democratic Party on this is DEAFENING and will not be forgotten.

[crankychatter]

69. McCain will be President Even If Clinton is President.

"Believe what I say, not how I vote." HRC

She's as bomb-Iran happy as McInsane is.

[gayron]

11. Well, you can not have it both ways

Were you calling on the media to treat Hillary right. So since Obama gave a speech, the media should not continue to do there job! Did you know all this stuff about Obama? The media has a right to report the news even if they have to replay over and over the remarks that Obama never heard his pastor make.

[TwilightGardener]

16. What unfair smear did the MSM run against Hillary, relentlessly, non-stop,

during the primary season? I must have missed that.

[robbedvoter]

48. You missed that? Wow! Maybe this old question of mine will ring a bell

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4263047&mesg_id=4263047
and the answeres from BO supporters summed up here:

MSM is after a good story (unseating of inevitable choice)
MSM is actually impressed with Obama
MSM wants to kiss ass of the next president
MSM - they're human! maybe they want to stop being evil already
Both parties do it
They hate Clinton
Ted Kennedy!
Who cares what they're doing?
It's not true - what planet are you getting your news from?

[VolcanoJen]

19. Welcome to DU!

Where did you come from... Free Republic or Hillaryis44?

[npincus]

20. LOL- another bone-headed provacateur

a Freeper, me thinks.

[HarveyBrooks]

27. I love DU these days...

if you don't fall in lock-step behind Obama you're accused of being a freeper.

[VolcanoJen]

29. That is wholly untrue.

I'd never accuse you of such a thing, HarveyBrooks, because you've been here forever and I actually know you as a poster.

But when someone jumps into an Obama thread on Day 2 to nag the OP for not complaining when the media wasn't fair to Clinton (how would this person know anything about the OP?), I'm gonna call it the way I see it.

[Sadie5]

30. Thats the name of the game

Once sane posters cannot see that BO is a media creation by MSNBC and that under his guidance the next 8 years will be no better that the past 8 under Bush.

[VolcanoJen]

32. ROFL

:rofl:

[BigDDem]

50. You're either for him or you're a racist

[musicblind]

54. I know, according to DU 47% of the democratic party consists of freepers.

[Cha]

58. No the media fucking doesn't have a "RIGHT"

to play a clip out of context OVER OVER OVER OVER OVER OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

And you have an agenda if you're siding with the goddamn m$$$M.

[VolcanoJen]

12. Don't be sad.

Be angry.

Of course this is what the MSM is doing. They probably didn't appreciate that shot across their bow from Obama's speech ("Not this time"), either.

Joe Scarborough is, and will always be, odious. I watched him this morning, and when John Ridley finally came on and schooled his ass, he had a look of utter boiling rage on his face.

You need to look at it this way: The GOP is scared. Most exciting Democratic primary ever, historic turnout, eye-popping fundraising, and the Repubs are stuck with old, old McSame running on eight years of Republican incompetence and shame. They know they're screwed in the general election, and so they figure it might be worth it to try to define Obama before he defines himself. They found a salacious "issue" that can be dumbed down enough for the MSM to run with it. But you can't run on The Clenis or Black PreacherGate forever. Americans actually get bored and tune out, they really really do. And they will.

Because this is what's coming down the pike... $4.50/$5.00 gas. Record foreclosures and bankruptcies. Stagnant wages, inflated prices. An unending, unpopular war. And not a single GOP plan, idea, or candidate.

This is a blip, it's momentary, it's March. Hang in there... you know Obama will. And when he's nominated at the convention in August, well, he's going to give a speech that's going to rock foundations, and he'll emerge with a huge bump in the polls, and he's going to take this fight to McCain.

The only way past it is through it. We'll survive, and we'll be stronger on the other side.

:hug: npincus :hug:

[npincus]

28. thank you.

I needed that! I am (so) angry... I can't belivee how this opportunity for reconcilation is being hijacked by our horrid MSM. Hillary up, Obama down. A consolation is maybe many will come to their senses when they realize they may lose Obama and gain another Clinton... but that damned clip of Wright is TOXIC. Will it suppress O's fundraising, Dem turnout? But I get your point; it is March. But the MSM is the coduit through which Obama's speeches and messages are heard by millions, and I don't trust they give a shit about that now. It's wRIGHT 24/7.

If Hillary's cries of media bias were heard and acknowledged, perhaps Obama's people need to declare a bias against their candidate.

[peaches2003]

13. Racism is alive and well in the US

and this Wright controversy is the excuse this time. Extreme rw preachers are smiled at, but the msm and the conservatives were just looking for something, anything, to hang on Obama so they could bring up race and even call him a racist against whites. It is sickening. I have lost all hope for this country.

[K Gardner]

33. SC Troopers run down blacks with patrol cars.. video..

If you had any doubt..

http://www.islandpacket.com/front/story/257749.html

[SeaLyons]

36. You are confusing racism

with extremism. Wright is viewed as an extemist. That's why Obama's speech did not put this to bed. He made a speech about racism (excellent speech), but Wright is about radical extremism. RW evangelical preachers are wrong also, but they don't scream GD America, or accuse the government of causing AIDS. That's the difference.

[Voltaire]

62. No they just accuse them of being responsible for 9-11

Remember Falwell and Robertson?? There is a double standard afoot here and it sucks.

But as a black man, I don't expect anything else from America.

[NNN0LHI]

15. Repig 501(c)(4) organizations can save their money for now

But once the media stops showing them they will. And theirs will be worse.

Don

[flpoljunkie]

17. Take heart in what Pat Buchanan's sister Bay said on Anderson Cooper 360.

BAY BUCHANAN, PRESIDENT, AMERICAN CAUSE: I think it was extraordinarily effective for exactly what you just asked, the target audience.

The first thing you do when that blood starts to flow, when the campaign starts to tumble, is to firm up your base, to make certain they stay with you, that there's no erosion whatsoever. Then you can go and start to expand again later.

He did exactly that. And I think what David just said, that people are so proud to be with him, to be part of this campaign, he's reassured them that he's there, he's going to stay there, and that they can continue to be proud. I think he did a very good job today.

BUCHANAN: Are whites going to vote for Obama? How about Hispanics? Are they going to? And like with Mitt Romney, are Mormons -- are you going to vote for a Mormon?

It's time to put all that to rest. And let's just talk about Americans are voting for Americans, and let's see where it flows from there.

BROWN: But there are some divisions there.

And I guess, David, I mean, not only did he address the anger of some blacks, but he embraced some of the resentments that you see in those divisions of whites. Do you think that white voters would be swayed by this?

GERGEN: As -- again, I think white suburban voters are going to find the speech enormously appealing. And -- and they will have a -- we have seen these fiery speeches -- fiery speeches now by the minister.

But, when you look at Barack Obama speaking, you know, there's not a radical bone in his body. And when you recognize that Oprah Winfrey went to that church and attended that church from time to time, you understand that there's a range of people who go there. And Oprah Winfrey is anything but a radical in American society.

So, I think it's going to appeal enormously to suburban voters. I do think he's going to continue to have some problems. And I think this is a wound that's not going to go away quickly...

MARTIN: Sure.

GERGEN: ... among some blue-collar voters and male voters, and I think the conservatives.

And it's -- it's notable, I think it's remarkable, to listen to Bay Buchanan tonight, because if she's -- if there are others like that in the conservative community, he really has made progress there. But there are going to be others who will continue to roast him.

But, you know, one other thing about the speech that I think really stood out, he's one of the rare figures -- figures who speaks to us as adults.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0803/18/acd.01.html

[NNN0LHI]

38. Take heart in what Bay Buchanan says? Holy Christ!

I feel like I am losing my mind around here.

Don

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,261282,00.html

Bay Buchanan to Head Tancredo Campaign Temporarily

Monday, March 26, 2007

DENVER — CNN commentator Bay Buchanan said Monday she will temporarily oversee the presidential campaign of Colorado Republican Rep. Tom Tancredo and has resigned from the cable network.

Buchanan said her title will be senior adviser to Tancredo's exploratory committee but will function as campaign manager until someone is appointed to that job.

Tancredo said last week he had not yet formally decided whether to run.

"I'm certainly encouraging it," Buchanan said. She said she expects Tancredo to formally announce his plans in the next week or so.

[flpoljunkie]

70. Obviously you didn't read the transcript or what David Gergen said.

GERGEN: ... among some blue-collar voters and male voters, and I think the conservatives.

And it's -- it's notable, I think it's remarkable, to listen to Bay Buchanan tonight, because if she's -- if there are others like that in the conservative community, he really has made progress there. But there are going to be others who will continue to roast him.

[NJmaverick]

18. The MSM tried and failed in their take down

Although what the Dems need is a propaganda station, of their own, to counter FAUX news. It woudl be repeatedly playing the McCain gaff.

[angie_love]

21. Ok I just saw the video, all I can say is WOW Unbelievable HITJOB.

It was absolutely vile. I'm really disappointed.

[npincus]

43. you mean the Today show video? Yes "HIT JOB" are the words that came to my mind

when I saw it.

[Leopolds Ghost]

64. What Happened to Gore's TV Station Idea??

[State the Obvious]

22. It's their brainwashing (via soundbites and video clips) approach to Journalism

Wright's picture appears somewhere within EVERY Obama story now. As you say, it is just like the "Dean Scream"......remember when they wanted to keep us afraid of terrorists...we saw the terrorists "crossing the monkey bars" picture....or of course there is always the "Monica-in-the-crowd" picture where she is greeting President Clinton.:crazy:

They (news networks) like the power...LOVE the power....feed on the power.

( They want to control/slant the stories so they are the ones who determine the outcome.) Sick.

[LibDemAlways]

23. At this point it isn't even to remind people of what

Wright said. It's to remind people that Obama attends a "black" church. Interpretation: He isn't one of "us."

I've heard it said several times in the past few days that the most segregated places in the US are the churches on Sunday. It's a shame that the one place where believers of all races should come together - church - is in 2008 still, too often, the last bastion of racial division. And the media is eating it up.

[slinkerwink]

24. EMAIL [e-mail] to let them know you are boycotting their advertisers

[bdamomma]

25. the media are such pigs to trash Dem candidates.

[angie_love]

26. WTF Lee Cowan? I'm having Such flashbacks to 2004. I'm upset about this right now.

[Beacool]

31. Please, MSNBC has been in the tank for Obama for so long

that many of us Hillary supporters don't even watch it anymore. The only program that I can tolerate is Dan Abrams' show, at least he tries to be fair to both candidates.

Tweety and the rest of the crew are always fawning over Obama and bashing Hillary. I stopped watching Olberman when he had the arrogance of delivering a 10 minute diatribe against Hillary.

So, now Joe is criticizing Obama? Well, it's probably only a temporary lapse and he will soon revert to his former kiss-up status.

[angie_love]

34. It wasn't Scarborough it was on the Today show.

I would feel just as angry for Hillary if this blatent hitjob was done to her as well. But I've seen nothing as close to it as in 2004 when they smeared John Kerry. Take a look below. I'm so angry and infuriated I could scream.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23723905#23722500

[Beacool]

39. It was on the Today show?

Thanks, I watched the video but I don't think that it was a hit piece. Unfortunately for Obama, Wright's incendiary remarks are what people on the street are talking about and the controversy hasn't yet died down (personally, I doubt that it ever will in full).

It's hard to make people forget what they have seen and heard over and over, those clips are powerful stuff, and I think that many of the average folks will remember the pastor's words at the voting booth.

[angie_love]

45. I agree...you know...sometimes you can't change a closeminded mind.

But I just hate to see the media once again dredge up Right wing talking points to smear a democrat. I am still really bitter about what they did to John Kerry. I was too young for the Bill Clinton stuff to really process it but I remember thinking "who cares about his personal life?". I just don't want to see a good decent democrat go down in flames like Kerry did. It would break my heart.

[Beacool]

61. I remember what the Repugs did to Bill and what they did to Kerry

quite well. The problem in Obama's case is that he acted like he was above it all, another kind of politician and the reality is that he's a very ambitious guy (just as they all are) who had his eye on the presidency since before he even dropped his bags on the senate floor. My main beef with him is that he should have waited until he built up his resume and acquired experience. Instead, the party leaders let him jump ahead of the line and look at the fine mess we are now in because they didn't vet this guy properly and the media gave him a free pass for months.

I think that Obama is a very talented man, but he should have waited to run until he was more seasoned. This is what Gerry Ferraro meant, except that she didn't phrase it properly and should never have used the word "lucky'.

[soundguy]

35. The Chickens Are Coming Home To Roost

To quote the hate monger himself. It is about time. Probably going to be a run on prozac any day now.

[yodermon]

37. Why don't they play Hagee's comments ad nasuem?

Why don't they report on Hillary's Dominionist connections?

They won't. They *do* see this as a Dean Scream moment and will make it to be so.

*OBAMA* needs to take the reins on this. He took the high road with his speech, and that's a good thing; now, since the MSM still continues to swiftboat him, he needs to point out the other candidates' "Pastor Problems" too. It's only fair.

[Leopolds Ghost]

65. He took the high road; since MSM continues to swiftboat, he needs to point out "Pastor Problems" too

EXACTLY.

[MadHound]

40. But, but, but. . .

I thought NBC was all for putting Obama in the WH:eyes: At least that's what the Hillary supporters around here think. Hopefully they'll see this and reconsider:shrug:

As far as the clip itself, they really can't keep this story alive much longer, a day or two at most. With the economy tanking and other events making it into the newscycle, eventually the Wright story will be forced out.

[Barack_America]

41. They're not trying to take him down, just increase their ratings.

Ratings and money is all they care about.

They'll continue to toy with this a bit longer, then they'll move on to Hillary. This is all about drawing out the Dem fight to increase their viewers.

Don't like it? Write them and let them know.

[Sean Stuart]

42. The MSM is frequently distracted by shiny objects.

A black preacher saying racially incendiary and offensive comments is shiny. It'll pass. The GE is a looooong way off. But it's true, the media primarily takes its marching orders from Republican strategists and they are trying to damage him with this.

[npincus]

46. the BASTARDS at MNB/MCNBC are even showing a YouTube attack on Obama/Wright

yes... they are playing clips from a conservatve group's YouTube ad!!!

[robbedvoter]

44. If you thought the NBC's deal with BO extended to the Gen Elections, you were dreaming

All the coddling was only meant to take out Hillary. Than it's back to "100 years in Iraq + war contracts"

[1776Forever]

47. Focus! Don't let the MSM make us question the best candidate - HRC has baggage not yet reported on!

HRC has links to the big guys all over the place. Bill has ties to Dubai and Saudi Arabia who gave him millions, to a man named Gupta who gave the Clinton's free trips and use of his jet for pay backs whose backers filed a court case against him for, and there is a trial coming up in Nov. 2008 where she will have to testify on 2 million dollars that has not been reported:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-3-M4L_1HA

Let alone her ties to Murdoch and his gang:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5162271&mesg_id=5162271

We need to keep on the media to get this information out! Why aren't they talking about this if they want to tell the truth about Hillary! It is disgusting that people are so naive!

Be Vigilant!

:patriot:

[Sean Stuart]

49. Consider this a gift. He needs a taste of the Republican and media tactics asap

He needs to deal with this and overcome it, because this is exactly the kind of thing that the Republican MSM will throw at him after his nomination.

[rucky]

51. But it's not Obama saying it.

There still has to be context told to the viewer.

And we have a hellova video response:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exx93uiZWDM&feature=related

[Texas Hill Country]

53. oh, bs... they play what gets ratings.

[BigDDem]

55. "What can we do?"

I read in another thread you're suppose to boycott.

Hey dare they play these videos!
That's BO's spiritual adviser/mentor speaking, outrageous!!

[Leopolds Ghost]

66. When will you attack McCain's spiritual advisor, hypocrite?

[southern_belle]

57. QUIT looking at MSNBC (except Keith) eom

[southern_belle]

59. anyone know how to start a boycott?

:shrug: Something that will make them pay attention. :popcorn:

[WinkyDink]

60. Nothing new under the MSM sun.

Obama should have expected it.

Kerry = Coward.
Gore = Liar.
Edwards = Girly (except when he has a pregnant mistress).

Now, it's
Obama = Radical Hater.

[EFerrari]

67. Start an action thread for the Today show and any other outlet

that plays it. If you see it, post to what outlet and try to put up their email address. I'll help you keep it kicked if you like.

[crankychatter]

68. They have unlimited resources

And they know how to use them.

I've been watching since JFK. I firmly believe, if they had THIS level of control of the media in the 60's, JFK, MLK, RFK and Malcolm X would be alive today. This is nothing new.

Obama wouldn't take the PAC money. He's a loose cannon. It's that simple. The DLC is Klinton's Koffee Klasch in the DNC. They represent FAKE centrism... not old fashioned coalition building, pragmatic legislation. That kind of "moderate" is defined by Corporate Co-option, period. Hence the term "Republican-lite."

Is it a mystery why the "opposition party" hasn't opposed anything for years? They have the same corporate paymasters as the media, and the RNC.

That's what this is about. They deanscream and moonbeam in the media until it feels utterly hopeless. Even PBS has been co-opted. Just watch the McNeil-Leher show immediately following Obama's speech this week. I thought I was watching FOX. With the political appointees running the network since 2000, even that last bastion of occasional objectivity is gone.

Listen... you have to understand... Caspar Weinberger, Nixon's Secretary of Defense was running PBS in San Francisco. We used to have bumperstickers "Caspar Come Home." He was an agent. Even then we had to go to Pacifica to get real news.

Trust me... they will do ANYTHING to stop Obama, and he's a VERY mild progressive. But, even if he makes it in... watch out.

These people will do anything... anything, to retain their iron grip on the throat of our Representative Government.

What can we do? PRAY and CALL.

I know I sound jaded and even a bit maudlin... but I'd take a bullet for this guy. What I am saying is that someone may have to. It is that bad.