busymom
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:43 AM
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Because...at this point I'm so confused.
Isn't Obama ahead enough in delegates that even if Fl and MI were seated as the 'vote' happened that he would still be beating Hillary in delegates?
If this is the case, why doesn't Obama just say "seat them"...well, at least the Fl delegates...and then support a revote in MI.
It would completely get rid of any argument that this isn't fair and square and he would still win.
Am I wrong? Would the seating of the delegates tip the scales?
I think not revoting/seating them will be dangerous for Obama after he takes the nomination because it will be under the could of an unfair election happening not at the fault of the nominees or the voters, but of the republican party and a couple of boneheaded democrat officials.
What am I missing here?
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:45 AM
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1. What your missing is allowing rule breakers to get their way |
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If you had kids, you'd know that is a recipe for anarchy.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:45 AM
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2. Because it's not up to Obama! It's the DNC that says this, not Obama. n/t |
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:46 AM
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3. Hillary - "It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything" |
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What are we missing here?
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:47 AM
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4. I'm from Florida and I don't want the rules changed midstream |
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The rules of the DNC are that if someone changes the date, their delegates don't get seated. The DNC warned Florida. We persisted. Some of us voted. Some of us did not because we were angry that the rules of the DNC did not allow for voting whenever we wanted.
Now all of a sudden, Hillary is behind and wants our delegates seated. Do DNC rules get changed depending upon whether Hillary is ahead of behind? They shouldn't.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:48 AM
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5. FL and MI would shrink his lead to about 60, which can be overcome by PA and WV, etc. |
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:52 AM
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This is really all I was looking for in terms of an answer. I wasn't sure if the gains made would make that big of a difference.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:50 AM
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If this is the case and she is so far behind, why the hell is Hillary even still in the race?
"I think not revoting/seating them will be dangerous for Obama after he takes the nomination because it will be under the could of an unfair election happening not at the fault of the nominees or the voters, but of the republican party and a couple of boneheaded democrat officials."
OK, this is funny.
You think if the SDs overturn the vote and nominate Hillary, that will be MORE legitimate than two states losing their voting privilege?
In other words, its better that NO ONES votes count than just FL and MI?
Again, why is she still in the race?
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:54 AM
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I think because it is so close...but if the FL votes would have made that big of a difference, then I do think there is a problem and that we will either need to consider a unity ticket or something else. It's clear then that they are basically tied...and that Obama's 'lead' is due to not the voters, but...the choice made by a few legislaters.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:50 AM
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7. Why is this so hard to understand? |
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Why weren't you talking about this in August of last year, when every news outlet was reporting that the results of Michigan and Florida would not count?
Last year! August and even earlier!
They broke the rules, the DNC told them they would lose their delegates, and surprise, they lost their delegates.
This isn't about Obama, it's about running an organized national primary. Letting states just do whatever they want is not in our best interests, and letting them have privately funded quickie elections (in which Democrats who voted for Romney to screw Republicans up cannot vote) after they realize their stupidity is disenfranchising the other 48 states who are doing things the RIGHT way.
Oh god, this topic is so stupid it makes me sick.
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Thu Mar-20-08 10:52 AM
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8. Because it means that in 2012, ALL HELL breaks loose as every state pushes... |
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..their primary back into the summer of 2011.
There needs to be a structure for the primaries in which they don't keep moving earlier and earlier as states play leap-frog with each other.
The PUNISHMENT, at least in some form, MUST STAND.
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