BREAKING: GE AA Support for Clinton collapses/GE White support for Obama collapses

[Tropics_Dude83]

We're screwed. AA's furious at Clinton. Whites furious at Obama.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows John McCain’s lead growing against both potential Democratic opponents. McCain currently leads Barack Obama 49% to 42% and Hillary Clinton 51% to 41% margin (see recent daily results). African-American support for Clinton has collapsed, falling to 55% in the general election match-up. Obama, on the other hand, earns solid support from African-American voters but attracts only 36% of white voters in a match-up with McCain.

Over the past month, McCain has gained ground in Ohio, Michigan, Colorado, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania. Both Democrats continue to lead in New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut and California (see summary of recent state general election polling).

On the fifth anniversary of the War in Iraq, the candidates all had something to say on the topic but the politics of the issue have become much more complicated. Joe Conason offers a commentary on The Folks Who Brought You Iraq.

In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, Obama now leads Clinton 46% to 43%. Before the story broke about his former Pastor, Obama led by eight. (see recent daily results). New polling data released today shows that Clinton leads handily in West Virginia’s Presidential Primary.

[NJSecularist]

1. It's pretty clear. Hillary needs to offer her resignation tommorow if we want to win in the GE. n/t

[fascisthunter]

4. What Good is She Doing by Staying in the Race?

She can't win.

[Tesha]

54. She's doing wonders for McCain. Some think that's good, I guess.

She's also setting up her 2012 campaign to unseat
President McCain.

Tesha

[xultar]

6. The poll could also be read that White people are wary of Obama. Black folk

defecting from Clinton will only bolster his support.

You should thank Hillary for that.

[NJSecularist]

9. Hillary must be so proud to lock up the white racist vote. n/t

[xultar]

18. So all whites who don't support Obama are racist.

ROFL.

[NJSecularist]

20. Never said that. But she is definitely the beneficiary of the voting bloc of white racists n/t

[Nedsdag]

77. Sadly, the same white racists voting for Hillary,

will vote for McCain in November if she's the nominee.

So she loses either way.

[goldcanyonaz]

21. That's been the theme around here for months.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. What Does That Black Folks Who Don't Suport Him, Pray Tell?

~

[Beacool]

36. Oh, they are called traitors, they are threatened

and told that they are sell-outs. Don't you know? Everyone who is not an Obama supporter has to be a racist. He is the Anointed One, the new Messiah, how dare you oppose the great one!!!

:crazy:

[xultar]

56. I asked myself that very question. Since I'm a black woman who doesn't really buy what he's selling.

Why don't you name us. I've heard these:
Self-loathers
Slave mentality ignorants

I talked to my brother too. He's not to wowed by OBama either. Neither is my pop. But my mom is.

[bellasgrams]

31. BO should be ashamed of bringing the country down to this.

I never considered race an issue. I've never had a problem at all. In the 50's growing up, I could see AA's were being treated wrong and made a point to never discriminate, by highschool things appeared better, at least locally. When I'm with friends I forget color they're just friends. I'm afraid all this hate talk and polls showing the candidates split between races will change things between friends. It all started in SC when BO started his race talk, and it's gotten worse. Don't even try to blame either Clinton for calling out race. They're not that stupid. No smart political would do that and the Clintons are very smart.

[SeaLyons]

35. Sadly, race was a big issue in the Obama camp

...we were naive.

[stillcool]

43. Is that how you remember things?

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail
A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out. "Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html

Kerrey Apologizes to Obama Over Remark
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4031436
Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States.
Obama is a Christian.
The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama.

Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs

Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008
The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's
Super Tuesday primary, which she won.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-

2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html

Source: Newsday
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Barack Obama Accepts Apology From Hillary Clinton
Washington D.C. 12/15/2007 09:17 AM GMT (FINDITT)

Hillary Clinton went straight to Barack Obama with an apology following a staffer's remarks about any skeletons that may be lurking in Obama's closet, pointing out that she had accepted the staffer's resignation over the disparaging remarks. Obama accepted her at her word, according to his campaign staff, and is moving on without letting it interrupt his campaign plans.


Obama is currently leading the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, the two early primary states often considered key to the process, according to numbers at usaelectionpolls.com, but on a national level Clinton still holds a huge lead. The most recently posted poll results show Obama with 31 percent of the
probable voters in New Hampshire backing him with 29 percent showing support for Clinton.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=30629&cat=5

Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores
Her Own Radical Ties
By: Justin Rood

ABC News - The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group
mentioned in the Obama stories."Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.
In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from the Politico newspaper reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another member of the radical group.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1

Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says. Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in
her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)

http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-

clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to
disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."
Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proudmDemocrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.

Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.
Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html

January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”

COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-

johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
----------
Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[JVS]

52. How dare that negro run for president

:eyes:

[SeaLyons]

67. The country embraced Barack....

don't even go there!!!! White, blacks, young and old - all embraced Barack. The country was very excited about his candidacy.

[Catherina]

66. Bullshit. Don't try to rewrite history.

Black America and anyone who was paying attention knows what went down this election.

The Clintons repeatedly played the race card against a candidate who was running on everything BUT race despite strong warnings from the AA communinity and strong warnings from posters right here at DU.

[knixphan]

78. oh it was O who brought the country to this...?

And the actual history of the nation kinda had nothing to do with it...okay.

[SeaLyons]

34. Offensive remark ...

[Rydz777]

62. Yes, a very offensive remark - the very kind of remark that is

tearing us apart. We're busy forming a circular firing squad.

[Beacool]

32. Oh please, why doesn't your guy drop out?

Hillary better stay in it until Puerto Rico. There are millions of us who support her and want her as our nominee.

Save your breath those who keep quoting that the math is against her, we know and don't care. There are plenty of us who think that Obama is not ready and experienced enough to be president at this point in time.

This is a democracy, not a coronation and Hillary should stay until the last vote is counted.

[Tellurian]

88. Where is the link to the story?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

90. I'm not too convinced that some more b.s. won't come out about Obama.

Real or semi-real. Anything that comes up now will get blown waaay out of proportion.

I think it's a good thing Clinton is staying in for insurance. I do wish that both sides would stop dragging BOTH candidates down. I think Hillary has definitely gotten the worst treatment from the media and many Democrats, however.

[maximusveritas]

2. Rasmussen's poll is a Republican outlier as usual

Most other polls show Obama and Clinton beating McCain by a small margin.

[olkaz]

19. Agreed.

But watch the Chicken Littles come running around.

It's fun.

[xultar]

65. I remember when they were high for Obama y'all loved them and posted them multiple times daily.

[Fresh_Start]

3. Time for the compromise candidate

been saying that for about a month now.
Its obvious that the democrats are not a political party.
They are subparty partisans that refuse to compromise

[MaryCeleste]

16. You may well have a point. Where is the party leadership on this?

[Fresh_Start]

25. same place the leadership been on most critical issues

MIA

[xultar]

5. Remember my thread from Wednesday, I said Obama would lose the GE and his supporters

would blame Hillary.

Though it was painted as an attack...on OBama...I can't figure out how...

I wasn't wrong.

[bicentennial_baby]

7. Probably because your title included the word Obamabots

:shrug:

[xultar]

10. With all the Hillbot posts. People calling Hillary supporters Freepers...you're going there?

ROFL...

[bicentennial_baby]

13. I'm just saying that's probably why it was painted as such, jeez

I don't use terms like that, nor do I call Hillary supporters Freepers, thank you very much.

[xultar]

17. I know you don't. I didn't say you did. I just said with all the reverse going on

you'd think people would see it as a non issue.

I even put in the post why I used it. Did you see that?

[bicentennial_baby]

23. Yes, I did. But, I also know that some of my compatriots are...

a little overzealous and over the top sensitive, to put it mildly. ;)

No worries. :)

[UALRBSofL]

49. bicentennial_baby I really like you

But you are supporting the enemy so this is a problem. However, your one of us so I forgive you for your support of Obama. :sarcasm:

[gort]

86. If name-calling is wrong

Calling people names back is wrong, too.

I as an Obama supporter respect your support of Senator Clinton.

I, as one, have stopped calling Clinton Supporter names.

Please everyone add yourselves to the list of those who will stop calling each other names based on who they support so the people on this board who are trying to tear us apart will get bored with the politeness and go away.

McCain is the one who needs to be stopped.

No third term for Bush/Cheney.

[Drunken Irishman]

27. And what does that say about Hillary?

She's pretty much been given a free pass the entire month of March in the media, had a huge win in Ohio and still loses to McCain bigger than Obama.

Who gets the blame there? Face it, Hillary is not a good national candidate and Obama does better against McCain -- even when he's been piled on for an entire week over racial issues. Clinton staying in a race she has no chance of winning CAN ONLY HURT OBAMA!

It would be like a team playing their starters for the full 48 minutes, plus OT, of the last game of the NBA season, even though they need to be resting them for the playoffs. We're playing Obama 53 minutes straight here, while McCain gets to rest waiting for the Big Game to start. That isn't his fault, it is Hillary's.

[bellasgrams]

37. BO is not going to recover from this. Now that his true colors

are out. Americans will not vote for someone who hates them. Why would anyone do that. Think about that. If the man hates America, hates whites, why would we vote for him. How is a president with that mentality going to help America? He'll sell us down the river. If he wants to lead a country he should find a country he could love and run for office there.

[Drunken Irishman]

70. Hey, show me the quote where Obama said he hated America.

Thanks! :hi:

[marmar]

81. The only one who's shown their true colors is you.....

Educate yourself please before posting something so embarassingly ignorant.

[SoCalDem]

85. Her true color is green.. green with envy

because people were not all that "into her"...

[Leopolds Ghost]

91. His true color? nt

[Beacool]

41. Let me put it succinctly: we don't care if it hurts Obama, we are not his supporters.

We support Hillary, I don't see any of you giving a damn what may hurt Hillary's chances. Why would you expect us to care about Obama?

[OhioBlue]

55. wow. you are your candidate. that's for sure. n/t

[Beacool]

60. And most of you are exactly like your guy.

Unity? Hope? Change? All words, nothing but words........

We Hillary supporters are outnumbered and viciously attacked on this board, but you all expect us to fall in step in November and vote for Obama. Yeah, well, we'll see about that!!

[OhioBlue]

64. do you think your threats will make us support Hil.?

[Leopolds Ghost]

94. What is this "outside" sou keep speaking of? Repeat after me... There is no sun

Only the lamp, and the roof of the cave you are in. All just words.

[Drunken Irishman]

71. Of course you don't! I think Hillary supporters LOVE the blatant racism here.

They love watching Obama being forced through the ringer because he's black.

For what it's worth, I'd care if the situation was reversed. Go read my posts when Clinton was the frontrunner last year, I often defended her from attacks.

Though I will say this: True progressives should care when a candidate is being ripped down because of their race or gender. Sexism and racism IS NOT COOL and if you don't care, then you are endorsing that type of action and that is unforgivable. That's something I would expect from a Republican, not a Democrat.

[Beacool]

96. I don't "love" racism of any form,

but I'm sick and tired of everyone who questions Obama on anything being called a racist. The guy doesn't walk on water and he should be given the same treatment as if he were white, no better and no worse.

I don't like Obama for various reasons, but him being bi-racial is not one of them. I couldn't care less if he were purple with pink polka dots!!! Not everything is about race......

[Drunken Irishman]

100. If you didn't like racism, you'd be pissed and angry over the media's smear.

But you said you love it. The media's smear on Obama and his Church is completely racist.

Condoning that is condoning racism.

[Leopolds Ghost]

93. What a sad sheep. You don't care even if he ends up as the nominee.

"If we can't have it nobody can! Why should we care?"

[Tropics_Dude83]

8. Hillary Clinton will never be president

She can't possibly win if Mccain gets 45% of the AA vote. As far as Obama, he's not much better.

Let's face it and allow me to be blunt and totally not PC:

African Americans think Bill and Hillary Clinton are racists.

Whites think that Senator Obama is an unpatriotic African American supremacist.

And we're stuck with "bomb bomb bomb Iran" Mccain.

[SoonerPride]

12. Maybe. A few more "senior moments" and people will abandon that old coot

I still think any Democrat will crush a republican.

"It's the economy, stupid." and boy, does it need something other than more Republican mismanagement.

[rodeodance]

29. Agist NAME -CALLING of a Democratic Pres.Candidate "old coot"--is WRONG

[jkshaw]

42. Rodeo, she was referring to McCain as an "Old Coot"

[lumberjack_jeff]

47. I love it when we have to channel Emily Latella.

Nevermind.

[SoonerPride]

53. I'm a guy, btw, and yes, the "old coot" is McLamebrain

You know, the guy who is older than dirt and equally as dumb?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. The Only Answer Is A Unity Ticket

I wonder how many African Americans will support McCain when they learn he voted against the MLK Birthday as a congressperson...

To be fair he has disavowed that vote and worked to make it a state holiday in AZ...

But how can you vote against it in the first place?

My uber conservative Republican representative, Bill McCollum even voted for it...It garnered over 380 votes...

[Beacool]

45. Yep, both of our candidates are "damaged goods"

for different reasons. So, either they both run on the same ticket or one of them goes down in flames in November.

:shrug:

[Jamastiene]

39. That's the truth in a nutshell.

Say hello to President McCain no matter which one of our Dems gets the nomination.

[bellasgrams]

51. And just when did AA's decide that Clintons are racists?

Maybe some DU AAs feel that way but the people on the street know better. That is probably the most ridiculous statement anyone could make.

[demo dutch]

11. I've been saying from day 1 that McCain will win against either of these 2 candicates

Leave it up to our wonderful DNC to screw things up!

[xultar]

14. You got that right. The MSM picked these two jokers. And people bought that shit

hook
line and
fucking
sinker.

[oviedodem]

15. They are going to HAVE to run together; there is no choice. Maybe

this will be the best example of Unity they could provide.

[kstewart33]

24. We're screwed today. The election is 7 months away. Take a look

at the situation 7 months ago. Obama was nowhere and Hillary was the presumed nominee.

No one, absolutely no one is taking shots at McCain. They will.

No time to panic. Not yet.

[book_worm]

26. Hillary believed she was the chosen one and now that she isn't she will do anything to

hurt the party so that she can pick up the pieces in 2012.

[bellasgrams]

44. Are you talking about the party BO destroyed?

[azmouse]

30. I'm white and I'm not furious at Obama.

I'm sure many others are not also.

There is so much time left til Nov. Don't be too upset by the polls.
We will win. We will restore pride to this country.

[jackson_dem]

46. His white support started going down well before pastorgate

He got 34% of the white vote in Ohio, and even that was inflated by rethugs and indies. He won only 27% of white Democrats. In MS he got only 21% white support. In PA he was polling at 29% among whites before pastorgate and apparently is now down to 23% since the two latest polls show the same 23% figure. So pastorgate cost him half a dozen points at best but it isn't the chief reason for his decline.

[OhioBlue]

57. of course - with the clintons running the racist campaign

what else would you expect? They run ads and say things, have their surrogates say things to appeal to racist attitudes or bring out latent racism. They are truly repulsive.

[jackson_dem]

74. Obama played the homophobe and racist cards to win SC. Now he is paying the price

[azmouse]

59. And yet he still has more overall votes than Hillary.

Obama will be fine. And he will win in Nov.

I live in AZ. McCain isn't well liked in his own state.

[jackson_dem]

73. So far...his tanking only recently began

[theredpen]

33. Good!

Or not. This time four years ago Kerry was way ahead. Eight years ago, Gore was ahead. Maybe it's bad to be ahead now.

There is also a bright side to losing the GE. We don't get blamed for Bush's house of cards collapsing. Instead, we get a solid majority in the House and Senate and McCain can't get the free ride Bush did.

I'm not losing hope for the GE, though.

[jackson_dem]

48. No. Gore was losing by double digits at this time in 2000 since Bush was a "new" candidate of "chang

What is odd is how Obama is already losing. As a "new" candidate in a change year he should be spanking McCain and doing far better against him than someone who the rethugs have savaged for 16 years...

[theredpen]

68. Gore was ahead in June or something.

The point is that the polls only tell you where the battlegrounds are, not necessarily who's going to win or lose.

Also, since the Democratic primary isn't over yet, polling on how our candidates will fare against McCain are skewed by uncertainty.

[jackson_dem]

72. Yes, because the "new" candidate inevitably goes down when the other party attacks him

Which is why putting stock in Obama being essentially tied with McCain right now is naive. He still has a long way to go--down...

[theredpen]

76. That's not how it worked in 1992

And some other years. According to your model, Grover Cleveland should never have been president at all, not to mention Bill Clinton.

[UALRBSofL]

38. I don't find that shocking

Clinton never had the AA vote. Obama got 91% of the AA vote in the last primary.

[woolldog]

92. clinton had the AA vote,

at least for the GE, if not the primary, but she blew it.

[lumberjack_jeff]

40. Absent Obama, 45% of blacks intend to vote for McCain? Really?

To say that I find that implausible is a gross understatment.

Actually, I find everything about this poll to be implausible.

[jackson_dem]

50. No. There are a large number of undecideds. 30% is the highest McCain can realistically hope for

Thus far the highest I can recall him being with AA's in any poll is the high teens or very low 20's.

[jody]

58. Not surprising. Exit polls from primaries show most Black Dems voted for BO & most white Dems voted

HC. in states with primaries.

Even BO's home state IL show BO 53% v. HC 46% white Dem vote, BO 93% v. HC 6% black vote, and BO 48% v. HC 51% Latino Dem vote.

Repugs and Ind. primary voters preferred BO. in most states.

IMO Repug voters will not vote Dem in the election.

Source data page 3 at http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#ILDEM

[Rydz777]

61. Democrats may be leading in Connecticut but their Senator

Lieberman is running around campaigning for McPain.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. Whites have no reason to be furious at Obama. Same cannot be said for AA's furious at Hillary.

[Catherina]

69. I haven't met a White person in real life who's furious at Obama

only here at DU.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

75. So true. Just the opposite. I know quite a few people saying that Obama ...

changed the way they think about race relations and that was after listening to just ONE SPEECH. Can you imagine if we elect Obama President of this country? We may finally be able to get beyond our petty bigotry and heal our racial wounds. HOw great would that be?

[knixphan]

79. exactly. Only in this microcosm.

[OzarkDem]

82. Not furious, but many reject him now

Like it or not, people don't take kindly to the words of Rev. Wright and Obama's weak attempts to distance himself from his spiritual mentor apparently aren't convincing anyone.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

95. I do understand that, but by the same token, Hillary's attempts to distance herself from the...

AA experience will also convince many--not just AA's--to stay home in the GE if Hillary should, somehow, get the nomination because of this. That's just the reality of the situation and it's too bad Hillary/Ferraro opened the door to such blatant race baiting that we are now in the position we find ourselves.

But I happen to agree with you, nobody, black or white, should "take kindly," as you say, to some of the hateful words of Rev. Wright. He was wrong to say those things, even though there's nothing wrong with trying to understand what created the hostility that resulted in those words. In any case, Obama has denounced (and rejected) them.

What else do you want from the guy? And the more you do want, the less likely Hillary will ever get what she wants.

At some point, we need to come together and get passed the racial divisions in this country if we are ever going to move forward and solve the other, more pressing problems that affects ALL Americans.

[OzarkDem]

80. Obama is getting what he wanted

though I would argue that it isn't going to help his career as he thought it would.

Strange way to run for president.

[SoCalDem]

83. rassmussen...says it all...

move on..nothing to see here...

PS.. AAs have been pissed since SC....

[sudopod]

84. Way to fucking go, hate machine

I pray that we can get these folks back into the fold before November.

At least we have one candidate who can change minds, given time to speak.

[2rth2pwr]

87. Obama the "unity" candidate strikes again.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

89. Today Gallup has Clinton leading 48% to 43%

[DemocratSinceBirth]

97. Obama Needs About 43%-45 Of The Non African American Vote To Win In The Most Optimistic Scenario

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[WDIM]

98. Once Hillary is gone Obama will bring them around!

There is nothing to worry about. When its head to head. McCain Vs Obama. People will see who needs to be president. Come the end of october I predict a 20% lead for Barack in national polls going into the general election.

[Bluebear]

99. 'I predict a 20% lead for Barack in national polls going into the general election' - Come now.

In your wildest dreams, but that's a pretty far-fetched prediction.